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fireman519
10-09-2005, 07:42 AM
An F6F Hellcat owned by the Planes of Fame had crashed yesterday evening near Cookville TN. It had left the Gatlinburg-Pigeon Forge Airport on its way to an Airshow when fuel trouble (fuel leak) caused an emergency landing, State Troopers and local police shut down both directions of I-40 near Cookville to form a makeshift runway, the aircraft struck some power lines and then crashed into the wooded median. One person is confirmed dead (the pilot).

fireman519
10-09-2005, 07:42 AM
An F6F Hellcat owned by the Planes of Fame had crashed yesterday evening near Cookville TN. It had left the Gatlinburg-Pigeon Forge Airport on its way to an Airshow when fuel trouble (fuel leak) caused an emergency landing, State Troopers and local police shut down both directions of I-40 near Cookville to form a makeshift runway, the aircraft struck some power lines and then crashed into the wooded median. One person is confirmed dead (the pilot).

fireman519
10-09-2005, 07:48 AM
Here is the story:

Investigators are trying to find out what caused a single engine plane to crash east of Cookeville on Saturday afternoon.


Officials say the plane crashed in a rock bluff that separates the east and west bound lanes of Interstate 40 near mile marker 295.



Nobody on the interstate was injured from the crash.



As it was descending, the plane clipped power lines and then burst into flames as it hit the ground. The crash caused the town of Monterey to lose power for a while.



The Federal Aviation Authortiy, FAA, is at the scene trying to figure out what caused the plane to go down.



"We don't have identification on the pilot. As far as we know there is only one victim in the crash. Putnam County rescue squad we believe did a thorough search. They did not find anyone else," said Dave Andrews with the Putnam County Sheriff's Department.



The tail number of the plane matches that of a vintage World War II plane that has ties to a plane musem in California.



Traffic on Interstate 40 in both directions will be shut down for several hours while investigators comb the scene. Travelers are advised to use Highway 70 as a detour route.

The freaky thing is it crashed in Monterey, Tn., and my callsign when I play is "Monterey".

huggy87
10-09-2005, 04:40 PM
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Here is a recent picture of me with a hellcat from a california museum- likely the same one.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/Huggy87/Hellcat/DSC02760.jpg

fireman519
10-09-2005, 07:00 PM
The pilot, whose name was not released, was the only person aboard the plane, which took off from Sevierville on its way to an air show in Little Rock, Ark., according to Kathleen Bergen of the Federal Aviation Administration office in Atlanta.

The plane, a 1944 Grumman F6F Hellcat fighter plane was registered to the Planes of Fame Museum in Chino, Calif., Bergen said.

Museum spokesman Larry Greene said Sunday he did not know who the pilot of the craft was when it crashed. The plane had been part of the museum's collection for about 40 years, he said.

http://www.planesoffame.org/

Bolt40
10-09-2005, 07:09 PM
I live near LRAFB and went to that airshow Saturday , when I got to the WW2 lineup I found the POF Wildcat but no Hellcat that was scheduled to be there , now we all know why http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif I had so looked forward to seeing those perform , The B29 'Fifi' also got grounded because of corrosion and a B17G also had mechanical problems . man o man how eerie
I will log on to PoF's website & send my condolences . sad day for WW2 warbird community .

Enforcer572005
10-09-2005, 07:39 PM
Considering the attrition rate they had in ww2, its a miracle we dont lose more than what we do. i saw an f6f that was based in kenesaw Ga. about 22 yrs ago nearly wipe out on a hot day during an airshow where a Maul smacked the pavement too hard becuaese of density altitude due to heat.

the hellcat tried to land and wound up going off the runway and thru a bunch of landing lights, staggered back in the air. It took 3 tries to get down, whith minor damage.

THere cant be more than 5 or 6 of them flying.

T_O_A_D
10-09-2005, 09:05 PM
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Tex-Hill
10-10-2005, 01:36 PM
I work at an airport in North Texas, and a P-38J beloning to the same museum had to make a single engine landing here last week. It's sitting in one of the hangers and waiting for a crew to arrive that specializes in these types of engines.

Apparently the left engine lost compression, and Allison, (now Rolls Royce), isn't rolling V-1710-11/15 engines off the assemby lines every day so it may be a while before she gets back home. http://www.warbird-photos.com/Airshow04-Aircraft/images/IMG_2890.JPG

AirborneCoyote
10-10-2005, 10:20 PM
The pilot was 64 year old Arthur Vance of Sebastopol, California.

http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051010/NEWS/51010006/1033/NEWS01
http://www.wmcstations.com/Global/story.asp?S=3960937

-HH-Dubbo
10-11-2005, 01:56 AM
RIP Mr Vance. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

fireman519
10-18-2005, 07:36 PM
bump

crazyivan1970
10-18-2005, 11:46 PM
R.I.P http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Sturmvogel66
10-19-2005, 12:06 AM
He went by the name Art. About 5 years ago when I was 15, my dad and I met him in Sonoma California. He owned a P-51D Mustang then and he gave rides. My dad bought me a ride in his Mustang, named "Speedball Alice," although the time it didn't have a name, just a winged Ace of Spades on the nose. It was quite possibly the coolest experience of my life, for which I thanked Art immensely when it was over. He was a great guy. He was very smart, he had a great sense of humor, and everything was "by-the-book." When I saw his name in this post my heart sank so low that I could feel pounding in the bottom of my stomach. Even though I didn't know him very well, I still knew him as the amazing P-51 pilot that gave me a ride 5 years ago. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
http://www.mustangsmustangs.net/p-51/p51news/vance/ArtV6.jpg

EJGrOst_Caspar
10-19-2005, 02:31 AM
Even if its sad, IMHO they just shouldn't fly with those machines... untill they build new ones. There ever had been accidents and more will come. Why don't they understand, that there got some historical tresures destroyed? Is it the money? I know, a plane is expensive, even if its grounded, and they get money from the airshows. But then they have the wrong owner. Better places would be museums or rich people, best a mixture of both. And for all those Airshow and Airrace-Freaks... for the money they spend in their 'old' planes, they can buy a completly new made one (like those Me262s, Fw190s and some other examples, that get already produced).

CHDT
10-19-2005, 02:56 AM
To say the truth, a replica will just be.... a replica and I would not go to an airshow to see a replica.

But I think that unique types should not be flown and that the other warbirds should only be flown with the greatest care and strictly by the book (I hate to see such rare aircrafts making funky aerobatics near the ground, at too low speeds, without enough altitude for a "B" plan).

Flakenstien
10-19-2005, 03:17 AM
IMHO these planes should fly if able to.
There is no better way to show the history of these great machines than to have them airborne, and the pilots if you look at thier records are not newbies, many with thousands of hours flying various aircraft.
Accidents happen, and that is what this is a accident, it is a tragic loss of a fine man I knew as a friend, and about 40 minutes before a phone call just saw him off from Sevierville on his way to bring joy to others by allowing them to see, hear and feel the F6F as it was meant to be seen in the air.

By the way that was not the Hellcat in the image above that was lost. It was this one taken just a few days earlier.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v457/Fretnstuff/Warbird%20Weekend/LostSquadron05048.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v457/Fretnstuff/Warbird%20Weekend/100_33072.jpg

CHDT
10-19-2005, 03:42 AM
I'm not talking of this peculiar case, but many times it has been possible to see warbirds being flown in a not appropriate way.

I'm for instance thinking of an almost unique WW2 fighter being crashed by a experienced jet fighter pilot, because he flew it in a totally wrong way (it's an old story, many years ago, so no need to search which crash it is).

So, during a meeting, this pilot made some "funky" things and he was almost fired by the meeting security officials, because he flew his very rare aircraft much too hard, as it was a jet fighter.And do you know what happened? Four months later, in another meeting, this pilot did the very same thing and he killed himself, crashing by the way an almost unique WWII fighter.

So, these aircrafts must be flown, but only very carefully.

And of course, unique aircrafts should not be flown.

fireman519
10-19-2005, 03:39 PM
Well, right after the crash happened, I'm pretty sure the news said that it started with a fuel leak. They said the State Troopers blocked off a section of the interstate for him to land, and when he was on approach, he hit the power lines, which set off the fuel, and it exploded. Don't know if it's accurate or not, but that is what the local news reported.

sabotshooter88
10-19-2005, 03:59 PM
Unfortunatly this wasn't the first time the F6F was involved in a fatality.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?ev_id=20030115X0007...o=LAX03FA066B&akey=2 (http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?ev_id=20030115X00072&ntsbno=LAX03FA066B &akey=2)

My condolences go out to the family.

VFS-214_Hawk
10-19-2005, 05:07 PM
Oh here is the thread, I posted this in a new thread but I will past it here.

NTSB Identification: ATL06LA003
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Saturday, October 08, 2005 in Monterey, TN
Aircraft: Grumman F6F, registration: N4994V
Injuries: 1 Fatal.

This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed.

On October 8, 2005 at 1633 central daylight time, a Grumman F6F Corsair, N4994V, registered to Air Museum, and operated by the Airline Transport Pilot, collided with power lines, fell to the groung and burst into flames during cruise flight in Monterey, Tennessee. The business flight was operated under the provisions of Title 14 CFR Part 91, and visual flight rules. Instrument meteorological conditions prevailed and no flight plan was filed for the trip to Little Rock, Arkansas. The pilot received fatal injuries and the airplane sustained substantial damage. The flight originated in Sevierville, Tennessee, on October 08, 2005, at an undetermined time.

Witnesses driving on I-40 stated that the ceiling was low and the visibility was poor when the airplane was seen flying over the Interstate. The airplane continued along I-40 and then struck a power line and collided with the ground at about Interstate mile marker 295. Witnesses telephoned the 911 operator and reported the accident.

Looks like he was scud running.....not the thing to do in a fighter http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Flakenstien
10-19-2005, 05:12 PM
From a hour after the accident until about three days later the media had it wrong, they called it everything from a F16 Hellcat to showing images of a wildcat while making up thier story.
But yes it seems that the above is how it happened, he called for a emergancy landing using I-40 (shows pilot was thinking of others not of himself, by not risking those on the ground flying over a populated neighborhood), upon reahing a area to land struck power lines, which at this time of the evening would be near to impossible to see (they are hard to see in daylight) which caused the aircraft to burst into flames.

The median is where he struck, and those unfamilar with TN, many highways are carved through the mountains and foothills, so instead of a grassy divider between directions of travel many have hills and mountains, it was one of these that he ran into.

He will be sadly missed, but I know he is up there flying http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

VFS-214_Hawk
10-19-2005, 06:13 PM
I do find it amazing the the NTSB cant even get the name correct!