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zzWalruszz
08-13-2005, 12:59 AM
Most of us living in the US have flown through O'Hare airport in Chicago, but how many people know why they call it that? I just learned today, that it was named after Butch O'Hare, the first American to win the Congressional Medal of Honor in WW2.

O'Hare intercepted a flight of 8 Japanese Betty's that were inbound to strike his carrier Lexington and he singlehandedly downed 5 of them in his F4F Wildcat.

Butch Ohare (http://www.acepilots.com/usn_ohare.html)

How did I learn this? Tonight I went to dinner at a coworkers house where he had a beautifully done scale model Corsair on display. When I asked him about it, he told me the story of Butch O'Hare- his uncle!

I think I will build a mission and see how hard it is to duplicate O'Hare's feat without getting killed or running out of ammo.

zzWalruszz
08-13-2005, 12:59 AM
Most of us living in the US have flown through O'Hare airport in Chicago, but how many people know why they call it that? I just learned today, that it was named after Butch O'Hare, the first American to win the Congressional Medal of Honor in WW2.

O'Hare intercepted a flight of 8 Japanese Betty's that were inbound to strike his carrier Lexington and he singlehandedly downed 5 of them in his F4F Wildcat.

Butch Ohare (http://www.acepilots.com/usn_ohare.html)

How did I learn this? Tonight I went to dinner at a coworkers house where he had a beautifully done scale model Corsair on display. When I asked him about it, he told me the story of Butch O'Hare- his uncle!

I think I will build a mission and see how hard it is to duplicate O'Hare's feat without getting killed or running out of ammo.

Chuck_Older
08-13-2005, 07:01 AM
Link times out

But, if I recall, O'Hare was unfortunately executed by his Japanese captors, drowned in the water, or eaten by sharks. None seem pleasant http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif He had the respect of every aviator he flew with

For some reason it reminds me of Marion Carl, who survived the war only to be murdered during a robbery of his home, decades later

BigA21
08-13-2005, 10:27 AM
Walrus I have been to that great page and really enjoy those stories there.
You must have considered yourself lucky to meet a relative of Butch O'Hare. I would have.

Chicago continues to enjoy a connection to the Navy and the Pacific Theater reminiscent of that war and the training facilities at Chicago.

If you did not make it to the Butch O'Hare exhibit at O'Hare Airport, I highly reccommend it if you have the time between flights. Its really a first class display.

http://www.flychicago.com/ohare/about/about_exhibit2.shtm

And then there is "Midway" Airport with its hanging SBD
(Video on page)
http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_246183059.html

Good Luck with your mission - although I thought he DID run out of ammo on that flight. Also I read that Butch was most likely the victim of friendly tailgunner fire during a night fighting operation. We will never know.

I will never forgive Mayor daley for carving up Meigs Field with a brigade of backhoes at 3 AM on a Monday morning after his mother passed on.

He turned this:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/393387/520277

...into this (Picture at bottom):
http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/030331_meigs2.html

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

zzWalruszz
08-13-2005, 12:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
But, if I recall, O'Hare was unfortunately executed by his Japanese captors, drowned in the water, or eaten by sharks. None seem pleasant http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif He had the respect of every aviator he flew with
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

According to my friend, (who is named "Butch"), his uncle was killed in a friendly fire incident, and the web page I posted the link to seems to provide details, how in an experiment a TBF avenger equipped with radar was trying to guide O'Hare and his flight to intercept Japanese night bombers, and mistook O'Hare's F6F for a foe.

Tex-Hill-AVG
08-13-2005, 12:46 PM
The Military Channel ran a program on Butch just the other night. They indicated that he was killed in the above mentioned experiment with the radar equipped Avenger.

There were 2 flights of fighters each flight with one radar equipped Avenger assigned to it.


They also mentioned another interesting fact. His father had been a well known associate of Al Capone. I missed the first 15 minutes of the program so I don't know how involved Butch's father was in Capones' criminal activities.

Saunders1953
08-13-2005, 12:58 PM
Tex:

O'Hare's father was a lawyer I believe (or was he a businessman, I forget), who got chummy with Capone and "collaborated" with him. When Butch got appointed to the Naval Academy, his father was concerned that Elliot Ness' investigation into Capone's income tax evasions would deep-six the deal, so he agreed to turn state's evidence against Capone. In about 1939-40, the mob executed a contract that Capone had put out on him.

zzWalruszz
08-13-2005, 08:30 PM
I have built the "Ohare" mission, but had a couple questions. What type of weapon loadout should the Japanese bombers have? Bombs or torpedoes? Big bombs or multiple smaller ones?

I have not yet duplicated Ohare's success- the most I have gotten is 4 bombers before running out of ammo or getting badly damaged.

horseback
08-14-2005, 02:44 PM
The Bettys were loaded with torpedoes.

Don't feel bad about being unable to duplicate O'Hare's feat; he was considered one of the top two or three aerial marksmen in the US Naval Aviation community pre-war, along with Thach and McCampbell. That's some pretty fast company.

Check out Barret Tillman's contributions to the Osprey Aircraft of the Aces series (he wrote Volumes 3 and 10-Wildcats and Hellcats) or his excellent books on the F4F and F6F, titled The Wildcat in WWII and Hellcat: The F6F in WWII. He covers O'Hare's exploits in both the Wildcat and the Hellcat, with eyewitness accounts drawn from personal interviews.

He also wrote some good histories of the F4U Corsair, F-8 Crusader and SBD Dauntless. I can recommend them all.

cheers

horseback

zzWalruszz
08-14-2005, 03:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by horseback:
Don't feel bad about being unable to duplicate O'Hare's feat; he was considered one of the top two or three aerial marksmen in the US Naval Aviation community pre-war, along with Thach and McCampbell. That's some pretty fast company. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What an amazing twist of fate- one solo Navy flier is by accident given a desperate chance to save the Lexington, and probably the balance of power in the Pacific, and he happens to be one of the tiny handful of men who would have any chance to succeed.

Thanks for the tip on torpedoes- although for some reason the Bettys in my mission just seem to want to kamikazee the Lex when they arrive.

TgD Thunderbolt56
08-15-2005, 06:34 AM
There's also a good reference to the fateful night he disappeared in "Butch" Voris' book First Blue. I chatted with him when I got my copy signed at the annual Jax airshow this year and he's still an intriguing conversationalist.


TB