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blakduk
03-19-2006, 04:22 PM
I'm wondering if i'm the only one who has managed to discover a really obscure bug- it took extreme incompetence, impatience, panic and a good amount of masochistic attention to detail for me to find this problem.
I recently got hit in a furball (offline) by a plane i never suspected was behind me. I turned to find him and threw my plane into a left spiral dive, tracers flew around my canopy in a bewildering pattern and i took a few hits in the airframe. At the edge of a blackout i pulled up about 20metres from the ground trailing smoke and started desperately heading for my airfield, watching my rev counter going off the dial!!. I managed to make it home but landed at too high a speed and bent my prop off the end of the runway- i was too scared to try and go-around again as the combination of smoke from my engine and the awful groan of metal-on-metal indicated it was about to die.
I later replaid that track to see how i had managed to stuff-up so badly. It turned out there were two 109's and a 110 on my tail. They converged on me from various directions and i had only seen one of them- hence my confusion regarding the tracer fire. Two of them almost collided with each other allowing me to escape.
Once i had replaid this section of the track i tried to stop it by pressing the 'escape' key- nothing happened. I kept pressing- still no result. Visions of another dud keyboard flew into view- i have already had one die on me in the last 12 months.
Finally the 'escape' key worked.
I tried other tracks- no problem, the 'escape' key worked without an issue.
I replaid the original track- same problem. I eventually noticed on the third replay that in the game i had pressed the comm's button to ask for help- in my panic i hadnt completed the request. It wasnt until i was asking permission to land that i finally completed the communication. Once that text was off screen the track could be stopped.
I tried this with another couple of tracks in QMB and the same problem occurs- if the comm's is left incomplete the replay of the track cannot be stopped!

blakduk
03-19-2006, 04:22 PM
I'm wondering if i'm the only one who has managed to discover a really obscure bug- it took extreme incompetence, impatience, panic and a good amount of masochistic attention to detail for me to find this problem.
I recently got hit in a furball (offline) by a plane i never suspected was behind me. I turned to find him and threw my plane into a left spiral dive, tracers flew around my canopy in a bewildering pattern and i took a few hits in the airframe. At the edge of a blackout i pulled up about 20metres from the ground trailing smoke and started desperately heading for my airfield, watching my rev counter going off the dial!!. I managed to make it home but landed at too high a speed and bent my prop off the end of the runway- i was too scared to try and go-around again as the combination of smoke from my engine and the awful groan of metal-on-metal indicated it was about to die.
I later replaid that track to see how i had managed to stuff-up so badly. It turned out there were two 109's and a 110 on my tail. They converged on me from various directions and i had only seen one of them- hence my confusion regarding the tracer fire. Two of them almost collided with each other allowing me to escape.
Once i had replaid this section of the track i tried to stop it by pressing the 'escape' key- nothing happened. I kept pressing- still no result. Visions of another dud keyboard flew into view- i have already had one die on me in the last 12 months.
Finally the 'escape' key worked.
I tried other tracks- no problem, the 'escape' key worked without an issue.
I replaid the original track- same problem. I eventually noticed on the third replay that in the game i had pressed the comm's button to ask for help- in my panic i hadnt completed the request. It wasnt until i was asking permission to land that i finally completed the communication. Once that text was off screen the track could be stopped.
I tried this with another couple of tracks in QMB and the same problem occurs- if the comm's is left incomplete the replay of the track cannot be stopped!

Aviar
03-19-2006, 04:31 PM
You really need to get some fresh air... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

Aviar

danjama
03-19-2006, 06:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Aviar:
You really need to get some fresh air... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

Aviar </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Aviar: Trying to kill me since 2005

Feathered_IV
03-20-2006, 03:41 AM
Oh. Heres another obscure bug:

http://www.geocities.com/brisbane_wasps/images/Palmda1.jpg

A wasp actually, sceliphron laetum. Probably one of the largest and most elusive in my area.
I've only seen them twice. The first time was about ten years ago. There was one trapped in the window of a china shop about two minutes before closing time on Cristmas eve. No chance to get in there amongst the breakables to catch it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif.

Second time was a couple of years later at uni(Same time of year - very hot). It was during the holidays and I was stopping by to drop off a late assignment. Walking beneath the eaves of the main building, I looked up and noticed dozens of little holes on the gyprock surface.
Suddenly out of nowhere, a huge female sceliphron laetum flew up to one of the holes and did a neat backflip to land upside down and crawl inside. Further away, another popped out of a different hole and buzzed away. Just as quickly three more arrived to take its place.

I was standing right underneath a huge, thriving community. I must have stayed there for more than an hour watching their commings and goings. Some females arriving with mouthfulls of clay to built their nests. Others clutching little paralysed spiders to feed their young. Amazing.

A week or so later I came back to snaffle one or two for closer study.
Nothing there http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif.

I asked the maintenance guy, "Oh yeah, no worries" he said. "Sprayed the lot on the weekend. They're all dead now. She'll be right!"

Never seen another one since http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

Tully__
03-20-2006, 03:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
Oh. Heres another obscure bug:

A wasp actually, sceliphron laetum. Probably one of the largest and most elusive in my area.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Feathered... quite common where I grew up, we used to have them nesting under our back veranda roof or on the wall every year. That maintenance man musta had a bucket of poison 'cause those things don't die easy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

We left 'em alone unless they came inside, harmless and quite entertaining to watch building their nests.

Location was rural north central Victoria.

Feathered_IV
03-21-2006, 03:13 AM
Lucky guy! I was in Adelaide at the time and live in Melbourne now. Probably will be a while before I see another.
Adelaide is home to those black and orange digger wasps that seem to prey exclusively on Huntsman spiders. Brave little things. Even I would think twice about messing with one of those.

Wow. Talk about OT! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

FoolTrottel
03-21-2006, 04:14 AM
OT? No, it's just another bug!
http://www.topgear.com/content/timetoburn/sections/carbage/pages/0328/main.jpg

Pirschjaeger
03-21-2006, 04:25 AM
Now this thread has me chuckling. Poor Blakduk. He finally gets the courage to open up to you guyz and pour his emotions out, and what do you guyz do? You steal his thread and start talking about wasps, which incidently, I have too many experiencs with.

When I was about 9 years old, I decided one Saturday after noon to go exploring in the forest. I couldn`t believe it, I felt like I was the luckiest kid in the world. I found an old 50's chevy in the forest, miles from no where.

I got in the car, closed the doors and started to pretend I was driving. It was one of the best and worst memories of my life. Best, because I staked my claim and at 9 years old, I was the proud owner of a car. Worst, was because it was a friggin wasp's nest under the seat and the %$)/%Ôž doors were jammed shut.

I looked like a strawberry for days. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Max.Power
03-21-2006, 07:39 AM
You guys are something else... what with the spamming and the hijacking and the flaming...

anyways, that's a very interesting bug. If I was a dev, I would want to hear about that sort of odd behaviour. Very good find!

slipBall
03-21-2006, 04:41 PM
That VW bug look's familure, was'nt it in that movie "up in smoke" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Cheez & Chong

blakduk
03-21-2006, 10:15 PM
Yeah, you guys have really hurt me. Here i am boasting about my incompetence while uncovering a bug that had me panicking about a dead keyboard and you dont care.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

Anyway, now that's off my chest.
As for those wasps, they may look scary but they drop really quickly if you squirt them with a bit of flyspray. My wife insists i get rid of them when they make nests around our house (far south-coast of NSW). They're a bit like A6M's really- very scary if you seen them coming at you but if you hit them, even lightly, and they fall apart.

blakduk
03-21-2006, 10:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by slipBall:
That VW bug look's familure, was'nt it in that movie "up in smoke" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Cheez & Chong </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think it was 'Cheech and Chong'- they smoked a lot of dope. I think the other guys were Belgian and had really bad gas http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Tully__
03-23-2006, 02:35 AM
On the original topic... same thing applies when you're really flying missions. If the map or chat is open you can't exit the mission (though ESC will close the chat so the next keypress will exit).

I think it would classify more as a design choice than a bug, but I agree that it is annoying.

El Turo
03-23-2006, 02:42 AM
I'm sorry, but.. no. There is no other wasp more bizarre (or disturbing) than Ampulex compressa..

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">As an adult, Ampulex compressa seems like your normal wasp, buzzing about and mating. But things get weird when it's time for a female to lay an egg. She finds a cockroach to make her egg's host, and proceeds to deliver two precise stings. The first she delivers to the roach's mid-section, causing its front legs buckle. The brief paralysis caused by the first sting gives the wasp the luxury of time to deliver a more precise sting to the head.

The wasp slips her stinger through the roach's exoskeleton and directly into its brain. She apparently use ssensors along the sides of the stinger to guide it through the brain, a bit like a surgeon snaking his way to an appendix with a laparoscope. She continues to probe the roach's brain until she reaches one particular spot that appears to control the escape reflex. She injects a second venom that influences these neurons in such a way that the escape reflex disappears.

From the outside, the effect is surreal. The wasp does not paralyze the cockroach. In fact, the roach is able to lift up its front legs again and walk. But now it cannot move of its own accord. The wasp takes hold of one of the roach's antennae and leads it--in the words of Israeli scientists who study Ampulex--like a dog on a leash.

The zombie roach crawls where its master leads, which turns out to be the wasp's burrow. The roach creeps obediently into the burrow and sits there quietly, while the wasp plugs up the burrow with pebbles. Now the wasp turns to the roach once more and lays an egg on its underside. The roach does not resist. The egg hatches, and the larva chews a hole in the side of the roach. In it goes.

The larva grows inside the roach, devouring the organs of its host, for about eight days. It is then ready to weave itself a cocoon--which it makes within the roach as well. After four more weeks, the wasp grows to an adult. It breaks out of its cocoon, and out of the roach as well. Seeing a full-grown wasp crawl out of a roach suddenly makes those Alien movies look pretty derivative.
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LINKY (http://loom.corante.com/archives/2006/02/02/the_wisdom_of_parasites.php)

96th_Nightshifter
03-23-2006, 02:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by El Turo:
I'm sorry, but.. no. There is no other wasp more bizarre (or disturbing) than Ampulex compressa..

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">As an adult, Ampulex compressa seems like your normal wasp, buzzing about and mating. But things get weird when it's time for a female to lay an egg. She finds a cockroach to make her egg's host, and proceeds to deliver two precise stings. The first she delivers to the roach's mid-section, causing its front legs buckle. The brief paralysis caused by the first sting gives the wasp the luxury of time to deliver a more precise sting to the head.

The wasp slips her stinger through the roach's exoskeleton and directly into its brain. She apparently use ssensors along the sides of the stinger to guide it through the brain, a bit like a surgeon snaking his way to an appendix with a laparoscope. She continues to probe the roach's brain until she reaches one particular spot that appears to control the escape reflex. She injects a second venom that influences these neurons in such a way that the escape reflex disappears.

From the outside, the effect is surreal. The wasp does not paralyze the cockroach. In fact, the roach is able to lift up its front legs again and walk. But now it cannot move of its own accord. The wasp takes hold of one of the roach's antennae and leads it--in the words of Israeli scientists who study Ampulex--like a dog on a leash.

The zombie roach crawls where its master leads, which turns out to be the wasp's burrow. The roach creeps obediently into the burrow and sits there quietly, while the wasp plugs up the burrow with pebbles. Now the wasp turns to the roach once more and lays an egg on its underside. The roach does not resist. The egg hatches, and the larva chews a hole in the side of the roach. In it goes.

The larva grows inside the roach, devouring the organs of its host, for about eight days. It is then ready to weave itself a cocoon--which it makes within the roach as well. After four more weeks, the wasp grows to an adult. It breaks out of its cocoon, and out of the roach as well. Seeing a full-grown wasp crawl out of a roach suddenly makes those Alien movies look pretty derivative.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LINKY (http://loom.corante.com/archives/2006/02/02/the_wisdom_of_parasites.php) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif thats some scary little wasp - poor roach.

Feathered_IV
03-23-2006, 03:51 AM
El Turo, thanks a million! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
I heard stories about that one years ago but was never able to find out what it was called. I was beginning to think it was just fiction. Should have known that truth is always stranger.

We have a wasp around here, when males are scarce they have offspring anyway. Weird thing is, they all come out male. How the hell does that work?! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Edit: Sorry blakduk I get carried away sometimes. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

El Turo
03-23-2006, 10:10 AM
Heh.. glad I could help. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I saw that article a ways back and I've never forgotten it. Totally creepy, but cool at the same time.

telsono
03-23-2006, 12:38 PM
We use parasitic wasps in some of our eradication programs for invasive species. Here's a link to information of some of the smaller ones.

http://www.geocities.com/brisbane_wasps/ParasiticWasp.htm

In the USA the control of Citrus Blackfly in Florida is being done primarily with a small wasp.

http://creatures.ifas.ufl.edu/beneficial/amitus_hesperidum.htm

Capt.England
03-23-2006, 04:48 PM
I always thought that when a wasp stings it dies? Unless thats just the ones we have in England?

I must say that wasp story about the roach is one of the most horrible things that I have ever read.
Just think if it could do the same thing to us humans! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

El Turo
03-23-2006, 05:21 PM
I think you're thinking of honey bees.