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BaldieJr
02-17-2004, 08:23 PM
Every picture/movie I've seen from WWII is in black-and-white.

FB is in color.

Lets fix this grave injustice now!

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BaldieJr
02-17-2004, 08:23 PM
Every picture/movie I've seen from WWII is in black-and-white.

FB is in color.

Lets fix this grave injustice now!

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CAP401
02-17-2004, 09:31 PM
No.

ELITE1499
02-17-2004, 09:33 PM
Shaft. Me.

CAP401
02-17-2004, 09:35 PM
Forgot to include this in my first post but, do you think that when this timeperiod was the present that everything was black-and-white? No. It was color. Your supposed to be pretending(again we including myself forget this fact) that you are a fighter pilot when this is all in the present so it should be in color just like it was back then!

ELITE1499
02-17-2004, 09:36 PM
Something like the matrix...and Back to the Future III

JR_Greenhorn
02-17-2004, 09:38 PM
I read in Calvin & Hobbes that the world didn't turn to colour for quite a while after the war, and then it was grainy colour at best for several years after that. In reality, those old photos are colour photos of a black-and-white world.

ELITE1499
02-17-2004, 09:41 PM
I have heard that I have seen William Taft in the nude.

-HH-Dubbo
02-17-2004, 11:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JR_Greenhorn:
I read in Calvin & Hobbes that the world didn't turn to colour for quite a while after the war, and then it was grainy colour at best for several years after that. In reality, those old photos are colour photos of a black-and-white world.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
That was the best explanation Calvin's Dad ever did.


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BlindHuck
02-18-2004, 01:52 AM
OH CRAP! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

It's never been COLOUR and never will be!

The technical term is (parents, cover your childrens' eyes) COLOR. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Slush69
02-18-2004, 02:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CAP401:
Forgot to include this in my first post but, do you think that when this timeperiod was the present that everything was black-and-white? No. It was color. Your supposed to be pretending(again we including myself forget this fact) that you are a fighter pilot when this is all in the present so it should be in color just like it was back then!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's simply not true. Celluloid film records what it sees, and when you watch old films from that period, they were all in black and white, so of course the world was black and white back then as well. That's logical. Don't let your prejudice and bias about modern colours fool you.

cheers/slush

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VF-17_Jolly
02-18-2004, 03:02 AM
I think sepia sunglasses are the answer http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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nixon-fiend.
02-18-2004, 03:32 AM
The Film student says.. In principal use from the 1890s to around 1925.. orthochromatic film stock. Black n white.

From '25 onwards, the introduction of panchromatic film lead to it's widespread use - giving a better depth of field and more sensitivity to different colours.

Colour film stock has existed since 1926. At this time though, it was seen as something of a novelty - maybe one or two scenes in a film would be in colour - usually a musical number.

And it's bloody "colour"!!! Honestly, I don't mind if you yanks borrow our language.. since you couldn't think up your own.. but don't tell us how to spell it! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

Tully__
02-18-2004, 03:51 AM
Over the Christmas season I visited the Australian national war memorial where an exhibition of coloUr photographs from WW1 was on display (not hand coloUred either, genuine 3 coloUr photographs). The world must have faded between then and World War 2 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Slush69
02-18-2004, 03:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tully__:
Over the Christmas season I visited the Australian national war memorial where an exhibition of colo_U_r photographs from WW1 was on display (not hand colo_U_red either, genuine 3 colo_U_r photographs). The world must have faded between then and World War 2 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
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They might have been fakes. Ever considered that? The overwhelming evidence of photograph and film suggests that the world WAS black and white back then.

cheers/slush

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Hunter82
02-18-2004, 04:56 AM
I think the depression did that

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tully__:
Over the Christmas season I visited the Australian national war memorial where an exhibition of colo_U_r photographs from WW1 was on display (not hand colo_U_red either, genuine 3 colo_U_r photographs). The world must have faded between then and World War 2 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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MandMs
02-18-2004, 05:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BaldieJr:
Every picture/movie I've seen from WWII is in black-and-white.

FB is in color.

Lets fix this grave injustice now!

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Out fishing again, are we? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

You need some education. The USN used colored film almost exclusively. There is WW2 colored film out there, just look a bit harder.http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I eat the red ones last.

Rajvosa
02-18-2004, 05:23 AM
I think we should award the coveted "Fisherman of the Year" award to our dear Baldie! He's been very devoted to fishing since day one.

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Stalker58
02-18-2004, 05:25 AM
Sorry Baldie my FB is not color, ore like green-and-green http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Willthisnamedo
02-18-2004, 05:51 AM
Baldie is quite correct: I also note that aerodynamics is grossly overmodelled throughout: every (historically correct, because it's black and white..) guncam film I've seen clearly shows the jerky, scratchy way aircraft of the time actually flew. it also shows that cannon and MG fire was actually kind of wavy, and didn't really go in straight lines: it sort of jumped about a lot, because of the poor quality of the guns.

And why aren't there all those little flickering black and white birds or insects, or whatever they are, that are always dancing around (they look almost like 'scratchiness' sometimes) that must have been a hazard to navigation, to say the least.

The only bit they got right, if you ask me, is the way planes will suddenly freeze, and then 'jump' to a new point in the sky (it seems best modelled in multi-player, for some reason) - now that's exactly what real planes used to do, if you look at real combat footage, and not all that propaganda from hollywood.

They got closest to correct flight dynamics in the intro video, but the colours are too intense for my sense of realism: all that false brown - yuk!!

WUAF_Co_Hero
02-18-2004, 05:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CAP401:
Forgot to include this in my first post but, do you think that when this timeperiod was the present that everything was black-and-white? No. It was color. Your supposed to be pretending(again we including myself forget this fact) that you are a fighter pilot when this is all in the present so it should be in color just like it was back then!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Call me crazy, but I think he was kidding.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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SeaFireLIV
02-18-2004, 06:06 AM
Yes, Baldie is in fact, correct. I read in the book `The emergence of Colour after WWII` by Glory Hunnaford, that after the end of WWII such was the great joy and happiness of war being over that Colour actually began appearing on everything. At first it was faded, gradual, almost unnoticed... Then it developed and grew to what we have today. (there`s also a theory that colour existed in the Medieval period, but evidence is hard to come by).


Why do you think fashion was crap pre- 1950s? Kids these days, no idea....

BaldieJR (and any other looking for historical accuracy) To solve your problem just change your Colour moniter settings to Grey tone. I fly FB like this all the time and love the feeling of immersion. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Willthisnamedo
02-18-2004, 06:15 AM
Good idea seafire - thanx: also try that while doing what i do, which is to jerk around a lot in my seat - that gives incredible immersion - really captures that jerky, flickering effect that life had in those days. I'm working on a setup where I video my screen with my DV camera, and play on the resulting images - it's got that lovely grainy and jerky 'reality' that I want to re-create.

Red_Storm
02-18-2004, 06:42 AM
This is the most lame and stupid thread I've read in a while. I can't believe you guys can even find this slightly amusing while it's just utter bullsh*t.

Willthisnamedo
02-18-2004, 06:46 AM
Ah: good - thanks for that light hearted and witty piece of repartee 'Red Storm'... Bet you have some great chat up lines up your sleeve, don't you?

SeaFireLIV
02-18-2004, 06:57 AM
The net always finds ways to amaze me. And one of them is in how some people will get upset at at an obvious joke that offends nobody.

RedStorm, you need to know when to relax and have a laff!

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BBB_Hyperion
02-18-2004, 09:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BaldieJr:
Every picture/movie I've seen from WWII is in black-and-white.

FB is in color.

Lets fix this grave injustice now!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

For ATI Cards there is a Vertex Shader you can turn to Black and White .) However seems in the new driver i cant access it anymore maybe it was this reworked one french site.

Regards,
Hyperion

horseback
02-18-2004, 10:02 AM
I see the Flat Earth Society has developed a new subgenre...

Cheers

horseback

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NorrisMcWhirter
02-18-2004, 10:07 AM
Hi,

I poked my eyes out with a broken Saitek and replaced them with a dog's eyeballs, instead.

Now I see in perfect black and white although my binocular vision component is about as good as the armament on the F2.

Cheers,
Norris


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