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Feathered_IV
09-15-2007, 04:02 AM
I was on Spits vs 109's server today and thought I'd take the Jug for a spin. I'd read recently how the '47 outperformed some of the opposition at altitude and thought I'd try a little bnz. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

There was a 3/1 blue numerical superiority, and I'd made a few passes on some HA's. Long enough to develop a trail of three or four 109's and 190's behind me. I then went back up to altitude (was down to 16k by then) and all but one of them fell behind as I went through 25000ft.

The last guy was determined to hang in there, so I kept on up. Going in a very gentle spiral climb to keep him from gaining on me.

The weird thing is, when I topped 30,000 feet, the altimeter stopped and did not measure anything over that height. We were still climbing a hell of a way past that before the other guy broke off and split-S'd for the deck.
The mission ended before I caught him though. Although I did get the track http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'd read that Zemke and his boys used to operate at 30k as standard. Is it correct that the altimeter should stop working just as they get to their combat altitude?

No whine, just interested.

Feathered_IV
09-15-2007, 04:02 AM
I was on Spits vs 109's server today and thought I'd take the Jug for a spin. I'd read recently how the '47 outperformed some of the opposition at altitude and thought I'd try a little bnz. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

There was a 3/1 blue numerical superiority, and I'd made a few passes on some HA's. Long enough to develop a trail of three or four 109's and 190's behind me. I then went back up to altitude (was down to 16k by then) and all but one of them fell behind as I went through 25000ft.

The last guy was determined to hang in there, so I kept on up. Going in a very gentle spiral climb to keep him from gaining on me.

The weird thing is, when I topped 30,000 feet, the altimeter stopped and did not measure anything over that height. We were still climbing a hell of a way past that before the other guy broke off and split-S'd for the deck.
The mission ended before I caught him though. Although I did get the track http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'd read that Zemke and his boys used to operate at 30k as standard. Is it correct that the altimeter should stop working just as they get to their combat altitude?

No whine, just interested.

JG53Frankyboy
09-15-2007, 04:14 AM
well, nothing is perfect in the game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

as another example, the Ki-27 speed gauge is stop reading just a little bit above 300km/h........... dangerous when your max dive speed is only around 500km/h IAS !

ar that the G4Ms sped gauge is also stopping reading much below its max speed - in km/h btw, in a Navy plane, odd http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

K_Freddie
09-15-2007, 06:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Feathered_IV:

I'd read that Zemke and his boys used to operate at 30k as standard. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Are you sure it was 30K, cos nothing used to happen up there.. B17's would usually operated on average at 20-25K, anything higher affected bomb accuracy - and they were determined to prove that the bomber was gonna win the war.

As on the eastern front the Axis were lucky to see anything above 15K http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Bremspropeller
09-15-2007, 06:30 AM
All altimeters in-game stop at 10,000m or 30k ft.

It's been like that since IL-2 1.0 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

JG53Frankyboy
09-15-2007, 06:52 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

thats ok for me - as long not all speedgauges are stopping at 300km/h http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Feathered_IV
09-15-2007, 07:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by K_Freddie:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Feathered_IV:

I'd read that Zemke and his boys used to operate at 30k as standard. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Are you sure it was 30K, cos nothing used to happen up there.. B17's would usually operated on average at 20-25K, anything higher affected bomb accuracy - and they were determined to prove that the bomber was gonna win the war.

As on the eastern front the Axis were lucky to see anything above 15K http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think the idea was that they would have a height advantage at 30k to pounce on anything that was attacking the bombers. Plus they wouldn't have to spend so much time looking up.

PS, Thanks Brems' http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

DKoor
09-15-2007, 07:26 AM
wtf you guys do at 10,000m?

Another 47 vs TA elite fights?

MEGILE
09-15-2007, 07:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DKoor:
wtf you guys do at 10,000m?
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It may be a novel concept.. but, we fly there.

JG52Uther
09-15-2007, 07:58 AM
Try online wars.If you are not at 9000 metres + then you are too low.Dogfighting at that alt is a real blast,but its a loooooong way down with a parachute http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

VW-IceFire
09-15-2007, 08:26 AM
Air combat at 30,000 feet I don't get to do very much of but its a totally different fight up there. Planes with the excellent turn rates at low altitude suddenly become rather slow and some planes, like the P-47, are more responsive at this altitude than pretty much any other. Its really interesting.

JG53Frankyboy
09-15-2007, 09:13 AM
in the good old days of massive COOP based onlinewars it was rather usual to fly and fight at higher heights.......... dogfightservers are seldom comparable to that - in combat heights, used tactics and teamwork !
it was a blast - but its gone.

Waldo.Pepper
09-15-2007, 12:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by K_Freddie:
Are you sure it was 30K, cos nothing used to happen up there.. B17's would usually operated on average at 20-25K, anything higher affected bomb accuracy. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/Bombing%20Altitude/bombingaltitude.jpg

Covino
09-15-2007, 02:48 PM
I read once that IL-2 doesn't model FM higher than 10k meters (~30k ft)-- ie. FM at 10km is same for any altitude above 10km. Can anyone confirm this?

Choctaw111
09-15-2007, 04:58 PM
P47's fight like mad up at that altitude! I guess I noticed the altimeter thing a year or two ago. I really don't see that getting fixed. Not many people go up that high.