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CooterC
06-11-2007, 11:19 AM
Hey all, I'm new here. Had a Q for those that have HotP and Il2. I'm a HotP player and am thinking about getting Il2. Are the graphics as good as Heroes? Any body have a preference of Heroes or Il2? Any other differences? I'm pretty excited about getting the new release of Il2 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif. I just thought I'd ask a few questions first.

Thanks all,
Mike aka ******.

CooterC
06-11-2007, 11:19 AM
Hey all, I'm new here. Had a Q for those that have HotP and Il2. I'm a HotP player and am thinking about getting Il2. Are the graphics as good as Heroes? Any body have a preference of Heroes or Il2? Any other differences? I'm pretty excited about getting the new release of Il2 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif. I just thought I'd ask a few questions first.

Thanks all,
Mike aka ******.

Korolov1986
06-11-2007, 12:19 PM
If you're used to HotP, then IL2 will knock your teeth out. From what I recall of HotP, it's a watered down aerial shooter - IL2 can have some of those elements, but it is much, much, MUCH harder.

If you're looking for a western point of view of WW2, you might be a bit disappointed (though we've got lots of planes from western air forces); but if you're looking for something more realistic and unique, you can't go wrong.

In terms of graphics, IL2 is roughly the same as what you're used to.

FluffyDucks2
06-11-2007, 03:51 PM
HOTP is a kiddie arcade game http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

AVG_WarHawk
06-11-2007, 04:00 PM
My son has HotP on PS2( I have my own name for it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif), OMG are you in for a reality check http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif!

skarden
06-11-2007, 04:58 PM
Dont listen to some of these guys ******,they just get a bit lonley for attention sometimes when no-one rattles there cage for a while http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I came to IL-2 from Blazing angels (which is prety similar to HOTP but with wayyy more bugs http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif),And it is certainly a lot harder game to get your head around but also a hell of a lot more rewarding,free(as in where you can fly)and fun(well to me at least)

The graphics are great if ya got a system that that you can push a little (here have a look (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/35010114/p/229)) and the flight model for the planes are great(although a little tricky at first when your used to an arcade type game) and the online play is REALLY great fun,wheather ya just wanna cruise around solo,fly in a squad or fly wingon a co-op mision with a whole bunch of guys ya can do it all.

offline their are plane skins to download,thousands of really great user campaigns to play though and heaps of classic single missions to have fun with.

plus if ya ever have any questions the comunity here is great for answering any questions you have(aside from the occasional troll http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif)

oh yeah BTW be warned! VERY VERY addictive http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

p.s. do you know RMcslash? he used to play HOTP online a while ago and I was wonderin if he's still around

Xiolablu3
06-11-2007, 05:32 PM
IL2 = Attempt at realism.

HOTP = Attempt at fun.


Get IL2 1946 (Full series in one box) and make sure you get online, as its where the true beauty of IL2 is.

CooterC
06-11-2007, 08:44 PM
Oh, wow, thanks a bunch all! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif It sounds neet.

One more Q, does it have modes like, pro and arcade controls or something similar to that like HotP does?

Yeah, RMcSlash still plays. I actually play with him often. I'm aaaaalmost as good as him, well, kinda, lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Thanks again,
Mike.

Xiolablu3
06-11-2007, 09:00 PM
You can turn on and off around 40 different settings and you can be totally invilnerable if you want, but it ruins the immersion.

You can fly with a see through cockpit, with external views, with padlock, with no spins or stalls, unlimited fuel and ammunition, and so on.

Its all configurable from the difficulty settings.

There are thousands of great user made campagins to download too, see mission4today site

http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&c=2

M_Gunz
06-11-2007, 09:21 PM
There are realism options. You can toggle stalls and spins off for instance. Then later on
you can unlearn how to fly like that before "going to the next level".

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">HotP site:
You mentioned difficutly levels, what are they and what do they affect?
There are four difficulty settings for the player: Rookie, Pilot, Veteran, and Ace.

These difficulty settings will affect the player's weapon reload times, and the amount of armour that enemy planes have.

Finally, the difficulty level determines how many upgrade points you earn when you complete each mission.

The higher the difficulty level, the more points you have to spend on upgrading your planes!
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We don't have the upgrade points. But you can make/get missions and build a campaign that
does that for you. Someone handy with code might include that into a 3rd party campaign
generator if you can convince them it's a good idea. A month later you might decide it isn't.

IL2 series is far more accessible than HotP but still no moddable planes, no user-made UFO's!

There are community resources you can get or use and one squad with an open to join online
training program. You can record flights and play those back. Offline, you can run utilities
to get guages/graphs/similar and collect flight data to log files. LesiHU has an autopilot
available that you can program the (pilot of) plane with.

You WILL need a good stick with throttle and some kind of good rudder control. A twisty stick
(rudder on the twist) with throttle is MINIMAL. You can drop additional bucks on Track-IR that
pans the screen view when you turn or tilt your head, something many have and a definite
advantage online over hatting your view around. Wait until you get into the game first though
as TIR is not cheap.
There is a free version but it uses your PC and a PC camera... it soaks resources and I don't
see many people recommending it. There is NewView and another much like it that people DO
recommend and those are free as well. You can have the view move when you move the stick with
those and much more.

Maybe by the end of this year the Storm of War:Battle of Britain sim by the same company will
be released as well. It will require a lot more PC than IL2:1946.

VW-IceFire
06-11-2007, 10:01 PM
RE: the points system

The beauty of IL-2 is that everything is available to you from day one. The real test is where you start flying those different aircraft and learning how very different each and every aircraft is. The rewards are greater than even with a points/unlock system because once you learn how a particular aircraft flies and is effective in combat you can really go to town.

I highly encourage people to give IL-2 a try. I came from arcade like space combat shooters and IL-2 was a challenge but I took it one step at a time and its a really great experience. Many many hours of replayable fun...there are so many options.

Bearcat99
06-11-2007, 10:58 PM
IL2 46 is the most outstanding WWII flight sim on the market today. It has no competition. NONE. Nothing even comes close.... there are products out there that do some things differently... but pound for pound? You can't top this sim. When you factor in the plane set,graphics,gameplay,AI,the maps available,even the sound.. which is IMO this sims weakest link.. but it still is not as bad as some complain about... pound for pound.... it is far far ahead of it's closest competition.