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ned7777
07-27-2006, 07:40 AM
every one has a ball turret exept the fly able??

ned7777
07-27-2006, 07:40 AM
every one has a ball turret exept the fly able??

Crash_Moses
07-27-2006, 08:17 AM
Apparantly...haven't checked 'em all.

For what it's worth in the PTO the ball turret was often removed on all models as it was considered dead weight. Although the B-25 performed precision bombing missions the Marines used it primarily for strafing and anti-shipping/submarine ops.

I can't speak for the Army guys...

S!

JG53Frankyboy
07-27-2006, 08:22 AM
the B-25C&G have that turret, the H&J not

"This turret could be retracted into the belly when not in use, the gun barrels fitting into slots in the fuselage when the turret was in the fully up position.

The retractable ventral turret was generally disliked by the Mitchell crews. The guns were sighted by a complex periscope system of lenses and mirrors mounted on the top of the turret's center column. A kneeling gunner aimed the guns by looking through the periscope sight eyepiece and directed the guns by operating a dual hand control. The optical sighting system was clumsy and cumbersome for gunners to use. Cramped in an awkward kneeling position and peering through the sight, the gunner could not see what his hands were doing, and he could not see the barrels of his weapons in his sight. The gunner often became dizzy when tracking enemy fighters through the sight, and he sometimes got so disoriented and nauseous that he could not even fire his guns. In addition, the turret took 55 seconds to be lowered into place and set up for firing. If lowered too quickly, the retracting micro switch could be damaged, jamming the turret in the down position and creating excessive aerodynamic drag. In addition, the ventral turret often collected mud and dust when operating from unimproved airfields, which obscured its sighting system. The system was usually considered more trouble than it was worth, and was generally removed by combat units in the field, saving 600 pounds in weight and providing useful space for a long-range fuel tank. "

sure, in game the AI has no trouble to aim with it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and it makes it very difficult to attack these planes from below in japanese fighters

Crash_Moses
07-27-2006, 11:10 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

I can't imagine trying to model something like that. Maybe that's why the J version is the only flyable...

zeno303
07-28-2006, 01:24 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JG53Frankyboy:
the B-25C&G have that turret, the H&J not

"This turret could be retracted into the belly when not in use, the gun barrels fitting into slots in the fuselage when the turret was in the fully up position.

The retractable ventral turret was generally disliked by the Mitchell crews."

I've never read a report that anyone ever hitting anything using that retractable turret. Strictly a designer's pipe dream.