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Edengoth
07-26-2009, 01:01 AM
So with all the speculation as to why Desmond needs to go into the Animus again for AC2, I played the final block of AC1 again to see the projected globe. The closest dot to Italy was in northern Spain...there is no Piece of Eden in Italy.

What do you make of this?

Edengoth
07-26-2009, 01:01 AM
So with all the speculation as to why Desmond needs to go into the Animus again for AC2, I played the final block of AC1 again to see the projected globe. The closest dot to Italy was in northern Spain...there is no Piece of Eden in Italy.

What do you make of this?

Iskander_Estel
07-26-2009, 01:33 AM
well the game start just were AC1 was left (dev team words)

so Abstergo should be looking for the pieces by that time, so what the hell the assassins want?

it's impossible win a race to find the pieces against Abstergo, you know they control the world and everything, maybe the assassins are looking for something else, as someone said, maybe something in the Altair codex

Xanatos2007
07-26-2009, 02:50 AM
Maybe the Globe highlighted all the other pieces except for the one in Masyaf, so Altair fled to Italy with the Piece of Eden (or one of his decendants) and throughout the generations it has been passed down just as a family heirloom, it's power forgotten. Ezio's father was a banker, maybe he hid it in a vault and the Templars are trying to get it.

Iskander_Estel
07-26-2009, 02:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xanatos2007:
Maybe the Globe highlighted all the other pieces except for the one in Masyaf, so Altair fled to Italy with the Piece of Eden (or one of his decendants) and throughout the generations it has been passed down just as a family heirloom, it's power forgotten. Ezio's father was a banker, maybe he hid it in a vault and the Templars are trying to get it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


that couldnt be, Lucy said that Abstergo had Masyaf piece of eden, but it was lost in Denver accident

Xanatos2007
07-26-2009, 04:48 AM
I'm talking about the Templars from the Reneiccance.

Iskander_Estel
07-26-2009, 06:59 AM
well maybe one piece was taken to italy after assassin's creed 1

te image of the planet with all the pieces was an image of 1191, maybe some pieces changed its place...

a lot of things can happen in 300 years

Danvish
07-26-2009, 08:19 AM
I've read specificly somewhere that this time it won't have anything to do with the Piece of Eden, I'm not sure if it was an official who said it, or a site who did preview.

Anyway, I doubt Altair took the Piece of Eden with him. And even if he did, that one eventually got to the hand of the Templars and was destroyed in the Denver Accident, so why would the Templars want him to go back to Italy?
It's more likely Altair left the Piece of Eden to Malik, since there's no way he'll want to use its powers.

I think the Assassins will get Desmond to the Animus this time for a totally different purpose.
And if you ask my opinion, I think it has something to do with the Holy Grail. Remember in the confrence room's pc, that Rikkin wrote to Vidic that they're removing the grail from their list of objectives since it's a myth? I think maybe the Assassins want to use the grail now that the Templars are no longer looking for it. And considering De Vinchi's Code (the book ofc) it's likely the Grail in Italy.
BTW, if it is the case, I'm sorry for ruining the surpirse Atmon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

thekyle0
07-26-2009, 09:12 AM
After hearing the grail theory, I'm not as confident with this one.

It could be that in the time of Ezio, the assassins found a way to become immune to the effects of the piece of Eden. Over time the secret was lost and now they need Desmond's genetic memory to find out how this immunity was achieved before the Templars can launch their satallite.

That would even lead them into the third installment, the assassin's are immune to the Templar's power and have to free the rest of the world from their control.

MrNussbaum
07-26-2009, 09:55 AM
I have to say I like the idea of Desmond being in the Animus on behalf of the Assassins this time around.

Zackebacke
07-26-2009, 10:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MrNussbaum:
I have to say I like the idea of Desmond being in the Animus on behalf of the Assassins this time around. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah, I hope he really wants to help them too.

Danvish
07-26-2009, 12:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zackebacke:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MrNussbaum:
I have to say I like the idea of Desmond being in the Animus on behalf of the Assassins this time around. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah, I hope he really wants to help them too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, I think it just fits. I don't think he'll help the Templars now that he's sure they gonna kill him, and all the part of Lucy is an assassin, and the assassins are breaking in must be there for a reason. I think.

godsmack_darius
07-26-2009, 03:46 PM
For all we know, in fact we know for a fact that the Assassins have infiltrated Abstergo industries (Lucy)

But theirs a part in the game where the Assassins try to save you,

who says they didnt win the fight down their?

Plus I read up on denver international airport which is where the "Accident" happened, and I found out that their is already a real conspiracy going on their, with all these crazy paintings on the wall

Xanatos2007
07-26-2009, 05:09 PM
Apparently the "accident" at DIA was an attack by the Assassins.

godsmack_darius
07-26-2009, 08:27 PM
Maybe, but apprently thats when the peice of eden, opened and everyone "tore eachother to peices" so says the creepy email tagged as "I KNOW" to Vidic

Xanatos2007
07-26-2009, 08:44 PM
Uhh, wasn't me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

godsmack_darius
07-26-2009, 08:59 PM
Really it said


Sender: Xanatos2007
on it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Xanatos2007
07-26-2009, 09:13 PM
My analysis indicatEs thE leTter was not sent by ME, but It was iN fact MisinformAtion produced by the templarS to misguide Your senses And aFfect your thoughts. All This talk of Me maIling DeraNged emaIls is Going to cause Havoc aT ubisoft and abstergo. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

godsmack_darius
07-26-2009, 09:18 PM
Are these "deranged" emails like the ones you just sent me with the secret message within it?

And what does it even say

Xanatos2007
07-26-2009, 09:34 PM
Just crack the code and don't tell the Templars... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

godsmack_darius
07-26-2009, 09:39 PM
Oh of coarse, I wont tell any one

Infact, I dont need too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Edengoth
07-26-2009, 09:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xanatos2007:
My analysis indicatEs thE leTter was not sent by ME, but It was iN fact MisinformAtion produced by the templarS to misguide Your senses And aFfect your thoughts. All This talk of Me maIling DeraNged emaIls is Going to cause Havoc aT ubisoft and abstergo. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It seems Like junk maiL Begets moRe junk mail. I iNspected them and found nothinG of interest. of COurse I cOuld be overlooKing somethIng important to the tEmplarS.

SWJS
07-26-2009, 09:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Edengoth:
So with all the speculation as to why Desmond needs to go into the Animus again for AC2, I played the final block of AC1 again to see the projected globe. The closest dot to Italy was in northern Spain...there is no Piece of Eden in Italy.

What do you make of this? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Actually the blip appeared in Southwestern France. Most likely, whoever owned said artifact probably moved to Italy by boat within the 200 years between Altair and Ezio's existances.

Xanatos2007
07-26-2009, 10:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Edengoth:
It seems Like junk maiL Begets moRe junk mail. I iNspected them and found nothinG of interest. of COurse I cOuld be overlooKing somethIng important to the tEmplarS. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ILLusions are their Best contRol method, I'm surprised they didN't notice anythinG oDd. RIkkiN should sharpen his sKillS A bit more so he caN Detect Assassin Messaged a bit better, iMO.

An_Idea
07-26-2009, 10:29 PM
sounds like a party XD

Xanatos2007
07-26-2009, 11:00 PM
what are You talking abOUt? We're disCussing fOrMs of junk maIl, Not partyinG. sorry, shift key is broken again. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Grimm-X67
07-26-2009, 11:55 PM
Wow, sounDs like yoU guys are planning on eating cookies and drinking your asses off and then attacking or spaMming aBstergo, or their forums XD...or going on a flASh mob hunt in Italy to find the Grail...or attacking the Denver Airport...which I SuggESt you not do. Good luck though, See you...oh wait I've seen this happen before..well...see you...

Anyways back ON TOPIC, unlike SOME PEOPLE, the way I see what COULD have happened after being told the "Assassin's survived" theory was that perhaps it happened like in The Punisher (The original badass one, not the new CG ****stain)is they killed everyone and then answered Viddic's call, and when Viddic and Lucy left Desmond alone they kidnapped them probably along with the suits who told Viddic to kill Desmond.

Xanatos2007
07-27-2009, 12:20 AM
It'd be weird if in the end Vidic reveals himself to be an Assassin as well and helps Desmond escape or sabotage the launch or whatever. Or better yet, introduce a whole new faction altogether. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

agentpoop
07-27-2009, 02:57 AM
maybe leonardo some how got his hands on a piece of the god stuff or whatever. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

thekyle0
07-27-2009, 08:05 AM
They already introduced a new faction, Vidic is part of the courtesans.

Danvish
07-27-2009, 10:37 AM
I think I've heard Patrice saying in an interview that this time Desmond will go in for a totaly different reason. I think it was the french interview, not sure thought.
So start comimg up with new stories for why Demond want to go play Ezio!?!?

AetosEagle
07-27-2009, 11:17 AM
Wild guess here:

Remember Rikkin emailing Vidic about giving up looking for the Holy Grail? Well maybe the Templars decide to give it one last shot, because of high Assassin activity, they wouldn't want to waste the Animus, or Desmonds DNA, the research lab (the place were they kept Desmond) has no other purpose, why not look for the Grail until the launch of the sattelite?

Danvish
07-27-2009, 11:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AetosEagle:
Wild guess here:

Remember Rikkin emailing Vidic about giving up looking for the Holy Grail? Well maybe the Templars decide to give it one last shot, because of high Assassin activity, they wouldn't want to waste the Animus, or Desmonds DNA, the research lab (the place were they kept Desmond) has no other purpose, why not look for the Grail until the launch of the sattelite? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Erm, read my posts man? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I've posted exactly the same theory in another thread http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

AetosEagle
07-27-2009, 11:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Danvish:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AetosEagle:
Wild guess here:

Remember Rikkin emailing Vidic about giving up looking for the Holy Grail? Well maybe the Templars decide to give it one last shot, because of high Assassin activity, they wouldn't want to waste the Animus, or Desmonds DNA, the research lab (the place were they kept Desmond) has no other purpose, why not look for the Grail until the launch of the sattelite? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Erm, read my posts man? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I've posted exactly the same theory in another thread http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Great minds think alike dude. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Danvish
07-27-2009, 01:26 PM
Hehe. I guess
My throey was that the Assassins put Desmond in the Animus for the Holy Grail, cause now the Templars are no longer looking for it so they can look for it.

godsmack_darius
07-27-2009, 01:44 PM
Or maybe their in their because their is something in Altairs codex that they want to see http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Danvish
07-27-2009, 01:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by godsmack_darius:
Or maybe their in their because their is something in Altairs codex that they want to see http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thought about it, but persuming Leonardo gives Ezio the codex right in the begining, why going through his memories for such a long road?

godsmack_darius
07-27-2009, 01:57 PM
Well maybe he didnt read the whole thing yet, plus it would be a HUGE twist, if the thing we have been looking for was right in front of us all along http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Danvish
07-27-2009, 02:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by godsmack_darius:
Well maybe he didnt read the whole thing yet, plus it would be a HUGE twist, if the thing we have been looking for was right in front of us all along http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Lol. I still think the twist is that his father and brother are alive.

godsmack_darius
07-27-2009, 02:11 PM
Well, I dont no, it seems too simple, and the "boy fighting his father" has been done to death

obliviondoll
07-27-2009, 02:53 PM
I sCrEam, you sCReam, wE All screaM for ICECREAM!

EDIT: Sorry... Saw it again and had to... <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by godsmack_darius:
Or maybe their in their because their is something in Altairs codex that they want to see http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Their = Belonging to them.
They're = They are.
There = Not here.

EmperorxZurg
07-27-2009, 03:13 PM
lol the old big letter sentence, it Always looks weird to me. have u guys seen that in luCy's emails 2? it Was sort of a weIrd way to reLay messages, a ROdent Could maKe it out, didn't the security read all the staffs emails?

Edengoth
07-27-2009, 04:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by d1sturbedme_468:
lol the old big letter sentence, it Always looks weird to me. have u guys seen that in luCy's emails 2? it Was sort of a weIrd way to reLay messages, a ROdent Could maKe it out, didn't the security read all the staffs emails? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah. oh, hOw ridicUlously siMple that lIttle code waS. you'd think the aSsassin's would bE more Discreet. Altair would have writteN something more misLeaDing to potEntial mail scAnneRs.

thekyle0
07-27-2009, 05:31 PM
Thank you for explaining "theres", I thought I was the only person who cares about using english properly. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

EmperorxZurg
07-27-2009, 05:35 PM
no we're just all too lazy

Danvish
07-28-2009, 01:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by d1sturbedme_468:
no we're just all too lazy </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeh man, we're getting fat sitting all day infront of our computer waiting for ACII http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Xanatos2007
07-28-2009, 01:16 AM
One minute...
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/typing.gif
Next Minute...
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

Danvish
07-28-2009, 01:40 AM
I'm telling you dude, if they do the trick of postponing the PC version, I'll go on a killing spree.

Xanatos2007
07-28-2009, 01:43 AM
I'll help, get me a TAR-21.

Danvish
07-28-2009, 01:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xanatos2007:
I'll help, get me a TAR-21. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You kidding? I'll get you a TAR-21 with an m203 connected to it!

Xanatos2007
07-28-2009, 02:02 AM
Sweet, now I can make big holes in fat people! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

obliviondoll
07-28-2009, 03:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Danvish:
Yeh man, we're getting fat sitting all day infront of our computer waiting for ACII http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xanatos2007:
Sweet, now I can make big holes in fat people! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
So you'll be blowing up your fellow fans? I'm a PS3er, and I'll join in the hunt if PC gets delayed too... I can help if you find someone worthy of torture... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Xanatos2007
07-28-2009, 03:32 AM
Great, the more the merrier!

Yeah, we're a wierd bunch... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

godsmack_darius
07-28-2009, 07:28 AM
I can hear a mod peaking his way into this threads soon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

AetosEagle
07-28-2009, 09:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by godsmack_darius:
I can hear a mod peaking his way into this threads soon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

BACK ON TOPIC EVERYONE:

If theres no peice in Italy, it's obviously something else they need to know about, something thats key to the Abstergo/Templar OR Assassins success.

averagejoe620
07-28-2009, 09:20 AM
I think the second one doesnt have anything to do with pieces of eden.


http://www.aviationexplorer.com/Commercial_Airliners-Military_Aircraft_Pictures/f22_raptor_ready_to_pull_chocks_and_takeoff.jpg

godsmack_darius
07-28-2009, 09:23 AM
It is true that Ezio has nothing to do with the peice of eden, but Desmonds timeline does

Realjambo
07-28-2009, 09:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by godsmack_darius:
I can hear a mod peaking his way into this threads soon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, we are never far away http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif