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BrewsterPilot
09-08-2007, 11:11 PM
Hi all!
Being crazy about old banknotes from around the world, I started looking into old CCCP notes today (going to invest in some, too), and found something interesting, to say the least!

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/9245/su225dy2.jpg

Looking at the inscriptions on the lower image's right, I thought I saw the words "Kymmenen Ruplaa" (Finnish), which means "Ten Roubles". Saved the image, zoomed in, and sure enough, that was it!
Becoming very intrigued, I did some research, and found the same on all of the USSR 1947-edition banknotes:

1 Rouble ("Yksi Rupla")
3 Roubles ("Kolme Ruplaa")
5 Roubles ("Viisi Ruplaa")
10 Roubles ("Kymmenen Ruplaa")
25 Roubles ("Kaksikymmentäviisi Ruplaa")
50 Roubles ("Viisikymmentä Ruplaa")
100 Roubles ("Sata Ruplaa")

Does anyone have any info at all on the matter?
Being a Finn it kind of interests me... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Just thought I'd share,
Cheers!
-Brew

BrewsterPilot
09-08-2007, 11:11 PM
Hi all!
Being crazy about old banknotes from around the world, I started looking into old CCCP notes today (going to invest in some, too), and found something interesting, to say the least!

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/9245/su225dy2.jpg

Looking at the inscriptions on the lower image's right, I thought I saw the words "Kymmenen Ruplaa" (Finnish), which means "Ten Roubles". Saved the image, zoomed in, and sure enough, that was it!
Becoming very intrigued, I did some research, and found the same on all of the USSR 1947-edition banknotes:

1 Rouble ("Yksi Rupla")
3 Roubles ("Kolme Ruplaa")
5 Roubles ("Viisi Ruplaa")
10 Roubles ("Kymmenen Ruplaa")
25 Roubles ("Kaksikymmentäviisi Ruplaa")
50 Roubles ("Viisikymmentä Ruplaa")
100 Roubles ("Sata Ruplaa")

Does anyone have any info at all on the matter?
Being a Finn it kind of interests me... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Just thought I'd share,
Cheers!
-Brew

K_Freddie
09-09-2007, 12:24 AM
Interesting pics http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Looks like the Accountants planned this invasion http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and we know accountants ability to plan anything.
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

ViktorViktor
09-09-2007, 01:07 AM
Assuming that it takes some time to prepare to print a batch of currency, it could well be that it was some years earlier than 1947 (maybe 1945) that the decision was made to include Finnish text on the banknotes.

So maybe the Soviet authorities assumed in 1944-45 that Finland would become a soviet territory and planned accordingly, but being the beuracracy that it was, it took some years before the notes appeared.

Kapteeni
09-09-2007, 01:17 AM
In USSR there was "Karjalan autonominen sosialistinen neuvostotasavalta" (Karelian autonomic socialist republic) and finnish was a official language (With russian and karelian). That explains finnish in rubles. But i think that Russian invasion was planned anyway. NATO had also similiar plans during the cold war. Maybe even Sweden http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

msalama
09-09-2007, 01:20 AM
Well could be, but let's in any case remember that they spoke Finnish in the Karelian SSR and used the rouble as their currency... and yeah, I'm a Finn too for that matter http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

msalama
09-09-2007, 01:21 AM
Beat me to it Kapteeni http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Vidar_1
09-09-2007, 04:51 AM
I read that the Finns were actually offered to buy Karelia back in 1991 for 15 BUSD by Yeltsin. From what I heard, the Finns did not pursue this, some fearing a trap. Others opposing due to the prohibitive cost of rebuilding. What's the story in Finland on this?

FPSOLKOR
09-09-2007, 05:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BrewsterPilot:
Hi all!
Being crazy about old banknotes from around the world, I started looking into old CCCP notes today (going to invest in some, too), and found something interesting, to say the least!

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/9245/su225dy2.jpg

Looking at the inscriptions on the lower image's right, I thought I saw the words "Kymmenen Ruplaa" (Finnish), which means "Ten Roubles". Saved the image, zoomed in, and sure enough, that was it!
Becoming very intrigued, I did some research, and found the same on all of the USSR 1947-edition banknotes:

1 Rouble ("Yksi Rupla")
3 Roubles ("Kolme Ruplaa")
5 Roubles ("Viisi Ruplaa")
10 Roubles ("Kymmenen Ruplaa")
25 Roubles ("Kaksikymmentäviisi Ruplaa")
50 Roubles ("Viisikymmentä Ruplaa")
100 Roubles ("Sata Ruplaa")

Does anyone have any info at all on the matter?
Being a Finn it kind of interests me... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Just thought I'd share,
Cheers!
-Brew </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I heard that Finnish and Estonian language are really close...

DuxCorvan
09-09-2007, 05:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FPSOLKOR:
I heard that Finnish and Estonian language are really close... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was to tell the same, but then I realized that the Estonian version must be the last one: "Kümme rubla".

Besides, Msalama and Kapteeni are Finns, so they'll know better.

BrewsterPilot
09-09-2007, 07:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FPSOLKOR:
I heard that Finnish and Estonian language are really close... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was to tell the same, but then I realized that the Estonian version must be the last one: "Kümme rubla".

Besides, Msalama and Kapteeni are Finns, so they'll know better. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yup, you're right Dux. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif