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Sir.Robin-1337
11-16-2004, 04:26 PM
ie. War_Clouds_WF

It seems that the axis pilots have embraced the turn and burn fighters... for which they have hoped for all these years, and the allied pilots are becoming sloppy. They have lost the need for a challenge.

Now undoubtly, it can be amusing setting lightly armoured planes on fire, but I want an enemy which takes more than a split second flik on the trigger to bring down.
I have a few hundred rounds in each gun, and I find myself going home, low on fuel, with bullets still left, even after downing 5 enemies in the mustang.

The mustang requires the very best of opponents.
Point whoring just isn't the same over Okinawa.

Do yourself a favour, hop onto a Western front server.

Korolov
11-16-2004, 04:52 PM
The thing is, most Axis pilots went allied in PF. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Hunde_3.JG51
11-16-2004, 04:53 PM
Robin, I made something for you:

http://www.vitalita.com/foodpicts/apple-pie.jpg

Its a humble pie, please take a piece.



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Aztek_Eagle
11-16-2004, 04:54 PM
i am still waiting for a ace fb pf, western front server, wiht the beufighter, b25s and a20 in the plane list... and more

gates123
11-16-2004, 06:01 PM
Dedicated server will fix all this...geez.

LEXX_Luthor
11-16-2004, 08:48 PM
I always said LuftWhiners were mostly USA Whiners, no wonder they went Tropical vacation with Corsair (Ussian Fw-190). http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

TheGozr
11-16-2004, 08:58 PM
it will come but need the server files first.

Promess of PROWAR.

TX-Gunslinger
11-16-2004, 09:05 PM
Well,

Actually I've noticed quite the opposite. War Clouds 44+ has had no ALLIED pilots on since PF. I'm joking actually, there have been NO pilots of any side on. Just showing you the other side of the same coin http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I, for my part, have pretty much been flying the closest thing to my beloved FW that I can find in populated servers, that being the Hayate (see sig).

I think Gate hit it right on the head, you can't really establish any kind of server patterns until the Ded server is out (Few days).

I'm dying to leave the Pacific, and go back to my beloved Western and Eastern fronts.

Although I might add that this period is a cool time for those of us who've been around to try all the new toys and Coops and such. I've been flying some marvelous VFC coops with P-40's, Corsairs and other planes that I normally don't get much chance to try.

I simply can't walk by an FW (of any flavor) in the old garage when it's available. My weakness.

I'm so stuck on stupid the first thing that I did when I got PF was to try to take an A9 off the deck of a carrier. It was a disaster, of course. I am happy to report, however that you can get a D9 up with no problems. Perhaps if we were to ever get the "real" 801TS and it's big fat propeller modeled, then.........One can only dream.

I was so homesick for my Antons and Doras that I tried to log into the Gennadich server in Russia, which was running Eastern Front maps, even with 200ms ping. Alas, they were hosting version 2.04, which (like all prior versions) will forever be known in FW circles as the "Blind German" version, because of the notorious muzzle flashes.

Perhaps you should recognize that we Luftwaffe guys are just taking a break in hunting season. If everyone else is like me, then they are trying to get over the excitment of actually watching their bullets fly through the air for the first time in their lives.

S!

Hunde_3.JG51
11-16-2004, 11:37 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif, well said Gunslinger. Like you, I have the FW fever.

TooCooL34
11-17-2004, 12:49 AM
Right.
You're all dead meat since we 109 & 190 flyers can watch our bullets. Iron bags hung around our legs finally removed. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

EFG_Zeb
11-17-2004, 01:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hunde_3.JG51:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif, well said Gunslinger. Like you, I have the FW fever. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Amen to that!

OldMan____
11-17-2004, 03:55 AM
I am simply not playing anymore online. Tryed, but cannot understand how anyone can find pacific theather more interesting.

I won't fly these no tatics japanese planes, where the only option it pulling your stick till very end.

WANT MY FW190!!!!! Now that i is a dammit good beast there is no place to test it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Hey FW lovers.. lets set a few games online only for us.... so we can rejoice with our beloved birds.

KGr.HH-Sunburst
11-17-2004, 05:58 AM
a few weeks with PF maps and servers and i missed my FW190 after the first online fight in a zero allready.
i realise now that no theater or plane will ever replace my 190 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Western and eastern front forever !!!
ps how do my fellow Butcher jocks deal with fighting in a jap. plane? (excluding the Ki84)?

TacticalYak3
11-17-2004, 06:11 AM
While I'm on the otherside of the fence in the Eastern/Western Fronts I do agree that these theatres, with regards to dogfighting, probably do provide the greatest enjoyment.

I would have probably personally preferred an early war theatre; heck a WWI sim by Oleg would be awesome.

With what we have already, enjoy earlier stuff like the conflict between Russia and Finland, Spanish civil war, pre-WW2 over China.

The Western Front might become a great theatre; new bombers plus the opportunity (plus imagination) to include more naval ships and aircraft carriers.

TgD Thunderbolt56
11-17-2004, 06:24 AM
It is/was inevitible for most people to fly PF immediately after release, but IMO the real gain is the combined install which will simply add more versatility and options to an already great sim.

After the release of the dedicated server and a few problems are patched it will be even better.

This sim is the "Ultimate" based on the sum of its parts.


TB

Diablo310th
11-17-2004, 08:23 AM
I can't wait for the Ded. patch to come out. I miss flying against the WF aircraft. Hopefully it will be out soon so that we can fly whichever front we have a hankering for at teh time.

Zen--
11-17-2004, 09:25 AM
Did someone say FW fever?


As far as WC western front being empty, I think that has to do with the obvious...no dedicated server. When a new version or patch for this game comes out, there is always turbulence as everyone rushes for the new stuff, been happening the same way for years now. No dedicated server means that hosts have to run a full install and that typically means only one game can be hosted at a time. New game with new planes = no western front server at the moment because everyone wants the new stuff. I would think that a host deciding to go with the new game is a pretty consistent occurance based on the past history of the game... wouldn't you agree?

Sir.Robin-1337
11-17-2004, 10:42 AM
Its great to see all this support for the FW-190... you guys don't fly the best plane in the game, but you are proud.. shows courage.
Ain't gonna stop you from gettin' flamed tho when I visit you in my Mustang.

LuftLuver
11-17-2004, 11:56 AM
Boohoo.

You luftBabies cried and cried and cried and cried until every last vestage of reality has been removed from these germany planes.

Waaaaah Oleg! Make our planes better and better! Puhleeeze fix the gun, fix the stall, fix the speed, fix the prop pitch exploit, fix the turn, take away black out, make us turn inside mustang, make our dive invincible.

And now, the final irony:

Waaaaah, Nobody to shoot at! How can we pat our own backs and convince each other we are aces? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif Enjoy your empty kiddie west front servers. I will send you postcard from a blue water paradise. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Copperhead310th
11-17-2004, 12:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LuftLuver:
Boohoo.

You luftBabies cried and cried and cried and cried until every last vestage of reality has been removed from these germany planes.

Waaaaah Oleg! Make our planes better and better! Puhleeeze fix the gun, fix the stall, fix the speed, fix the prop pitch exploit, fix the turn, take away black out, make us turn inside mustang, make our dive invincible.

And now, the final irony:

Waaaaah, Nobody to shoot at! How can we pat our own backs and convince each other we are aces? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif Enjoy your empty kiddie west front servers. I will send you postcard from a blue water paradise. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Luftluver ....Thank oh dear God thank you for saying it for me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.giflol
hit the nail on the head. some one give this man a Cigar and a sniffer of brandy..or at least soem very old scotch. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sir.Robin-1337
11-17-2004, 12:11 PM
I don't get it, I just don't get it...
I down all planes, including German planes with ease in the Mustang. What's all this finger pointing?

Someone get owned by a Butcher Bird recently, Luftluver and Copperhead?

p1ngu666
11-17-2004, 12:26 PM
theres skill in flyin japanese planes http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Copperhead310th
11-17-2004, 12:45 PM
Nope but the Ki-84 is kinda being a bastrd to kill. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I was looking yesterday for a western front server to fly the p-38 on and couldn't find one. So i see your point. but like others have said ded. servr will fix all of that. gotta give PF it's break in time.

Zen--
11-17-2004, 12:52 PM
People take these things too seriously, as though they themselves have something at stake with how plane X performs. If they perceive that their favorite plane X has been undermined by 'the other side', they act as though someone has hurt them personally. Doesn't make much sense to me but if people want to be that uptight about a game, I certainly won't stand in the way. Taking the longer view though, I think it's probably a better idea to just enjoy what we have and not be so paranoid or try to draw these ugly little boxes to categorize everyone with. Do the best you can with the plane you fly, everything else is irrelevant http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Copperhead310th
11-17-2004, 01:18 PM
My final comment:

my final Comment (http://www.plucky.com/sounds/plucky/whowrote.au)
http://www.plucky.com/pictures/plucshrt.gif

Sir.Robin-1337
11-17-2004, 01:18 PM
Copperhead, if you are finding KI-84s diffuicult to kill, then I prescribe the P-51D.
If you fail to own in it, then you must be reading the flight manual upside down, or are an innately poor pilot, negating any advantages the Mustang has.

LuftLuver
11-17-2004, 04:41 PM
Sorry Sir Robban,

Translate germany plane = Bs109. No problem with Butcher Bird since she has better damage model and less-silly pinwheel roll.

Bs109 is TieFighter on rails. Zero turning with Ki84/early Hurricane anti-gravity zoom. Top off with instant power chop drag chute. Silly.

http://www.30doradus.org/spaceships/images/tie_f.jpg

A glass to you Copper. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

crazyivan1970
11-17-2004, 04:52 PM
Not into DF servers at all lately. Truly enjoying COOPs. I think COOPs is the only way to enjoy and understand pacific. it just makes more sence http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sir.Robin-1337
11-17-2004, 05:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Sorry Sir Robban,

Translate germany plane = Bs109. No problem with Butcher Bird since she has better damage model and less-silly pinwheel roll.

Bs109 is TieFighter on rails. Zero turning with Ki84/early Hurricane anti-gravity zoom. Top off with instant power chop drag chute. Silly.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

How can people complain about enemy aircraft, when we are all free to fly the Mustang. It is an excellent machine and can dominate any fight.

The messerschmitt's attributes which you mention never hold any advantage over me and the mustang, due to my brilliance in the field of tactics, and the stallion which I ride.

If you are going into a fight in anything other than a Mustang, prepare to loose.

VMF-214_HaVoK
11-17-2004, 07:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sir.Robin-1337:
I don't get it, I just don't get it...
I down all planes, including German planes with ease in the Mustang. What's all this finger pointing?

Someone get owned by a Butcher Bird recently, Luftluver and Copperhead? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Really? I dont recall ever seeing you fly online? Do you fly on HL or UBI? Do you use a different handle? Just curious http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

=S=

Hunde_3.JG51
11-17-2004, 07:29 PM
Luftluver wrote:

"Waaaaah Oleg! Make our planes better and better! Puhleeeze fix the gun, fix the stall, fix the speed, fix the prop pitch exploit, fix the turn, take away black out, make us turn inside mustang, make our dive invincible."

From a FW-190 perspective this is hilarious.

-Fix the gun? Does the .50 cal ring a bell (and it was changed).
-Fix the speed? Speed of FW-190 hasn't changed at all for a long time, and I believe a long time ago it was decreased. I don't know of any FW-190 which ever recieved a speed increase (excluding Ta-152H).
-Fix the prop-pitch expoit? Didn't this benefit the 109?
-Fix the turn? Every fighter in the game out-turns the FW-190, been that way since they changed P-47.
-Take away blackout? I recall Oleg saying something along the lines of "we give P-51 best elevator response and still people cry about blackout, they need to understand about g-forces."
-Make us turn inside Mustang? No FW-190 ever has, or will turn inside the Mustang (and rightfully so). And I don't think we really need to discuss how well the P-51 turns at low speed.
-Make our dive invincible? FW-190A's critical dive speed was actually lowered slightly and can be outdived by P-47, P-51, etc.

Yep, the FW-190 has certainly turned into an ultra-unrealistic uber-plane due to Oleg bending under the pressure from FW-190 fans http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif.

The_Gorey
11-17-2004, 07:43 PM
german iron is all i fly. so it goes without saying that PF has pretty much ruined it for me.

and robin... take your little pony and shove it.. else i smite you unmercifully in my 109k4.

TooCooL34
11-17-2004, 08:19 PM
Gutted, your movie link has broken.
Plz fix it I wanna see Superbeast again. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

tttiger
11-17-2004, 08:57 PM
Dang, Ivan, you beat me to the draw. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

I fly Coops only, and usually with my squaddies on voice coms, and I think PF is fantastic. Coops are not perfect but the missions, if well written, come as close to flying well planned and organized and executed air battle as you can get.

If you like, DF, fine. Endless, mindless furballing is certainly fun. I did it for years in WarBirds. And had a great time.

But, most of us, at some point, put aside childish things and grow up. Once you develop your individual skills, it's time to move up to coordinated missions and tactics.

So all this whining about who is using what servers is for the arcade crowd only. I really don't care what Noob is using what server. The best thing I can say about DF servers is they provide a babysitting service and keep the 12-year-olds out of the Coops http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Aloha,

ttt

JV44Rall
11-17-2004, 10:25 PM
I miss my Anton.

But I'm learning to love the Ki84. I've been in some terrific fights on War Clouds Pacific. IMHO the Ki84 vs. Corsair/Mustang/F6 match-up is probably the most balanced pairings we've seen from Oleg. The FMs of each have advantages and, in a DF, you have to watch closely for mistakes or face the consequences.

Now, more than ever, it comes down to skill and a lucky break.

I'm hoping that similar balance was worked into the western front. We'll know in a couple of days. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Cyrano
11-18-2004, 12:47 AM
I agree with Rall, good play balance on Warclouds Pac right now when it's not too unbalanced numerically with Red planes (I'm guilty of this myself). Hoping as well for good match ups on West/East front.
Good shooting all, S!

Korolov
11-18-2004, 01:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hunde_3.JG51:
-Make us turn inside Mustang? No FW-190 ever has, or will turn inside the Mustang (and rightfully so).
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

*cough*Fw-190A-4*cough*

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Hunde_3.JG51
11-18-2004, 01:40 AM
Korolov, unless something has changed the FW-190A-4 will not out-turn the P-51B/C/D in a sustained turn with flaps. Haven't tried it in 3.0 though.

Sir.Robin-1337
11-18-2004, 03:38 AM
Hunde, don't argue with Luftlover. He is simply in denial that the Mustang outclasses your, and everyone elses' planes.
His inability to control the fight in the P-51 leads me to conclude that he must be flying with the gear out. Surely there is no other reason that he could possibly loose in the Mustang?

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
11-18-2004, 07:53 AM
*ahem*

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Sir.Robin-1337
11-18-2004, 08:02 AM
http://www.kinomarkt.ch/BilderMerchandise/Action-Figuren/MontyPython/SirRobin1.jpg


You can even buy my combat figure.
There is an alternative version, which includes a flight suite, a mustang, and 25 kill markings on the side.

Korolov
11-18-2004, 02:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hunde_3.JG51:
Korolov, unless something has changed the FW-190A-4 will not out-turn the P-51B/C/D in a sustained turn with flaps. Haven't tried it in 3.0 though. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A-4 ought to at least maintain a turn with a Pony. I pulled it off in 1.01? Or 1.22? against a La-7, so I think it's quite possible the A-4 could stay with it at the very least.

Sir.Robin-1337
11-18-2004, 02:49 PM
A4 stay with a Pony? Did the Mustang pilot have his gear out or something?
Tell me his name so that I may direct him to the G key.

Korolov
11-18-2004, 05:10 PM
I think his name was "Goodkn1ght" or something to that effect.

Sir.Robin-1337
11-18-2004, 05:23 PM
I'll be sure to page him on Hyper Lobby.

Korolov
11-18-2004, 07:53 PM
Yes, you ought to do that! You two would make quite a pair.

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