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Foehammer-1
02-02-2006, 08:28 AM
On my recent 100K patrol, i was going after convoys mainly. The convoys consisted of a couple C3 cargo's, a T3 tanker, a small tanker, a couple C2 cargos and tons of small merchants. The problem is, every single large ship except for 3 or 4 C2's was neutral! I was forced to go for the remaining red C2's and then deck gunning small merchants in the open sea... When do they turn red, so i can legally hunt the big ships?

Foehammer-1
02-02-2006, 08:28 AM
On my recent 100K patrol, i was going after convoys mainly. The convoys consisted of a couple C3 cargo's, a T3 tanker, a small tanker, a couple C2 cargos and tons of small merchants. The problem is, every single large ship except for 3 or 4 C2's was neutral! I was forced to go for the remaining red C2's and then deck gunning small merchants in the open sea... When do they turn red, so i can legally hunt the big ships?

trident42
02-02-2006, 09:51 AM
Can't say that i've had much of a problem with the neutral convoys, guess you have just been unfortunate, keep looking, after 1942 the Americans enter the war so then it will be a free for all http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

FDNYFAN
02-02-2006, 11:54 AM
I thought that the US entered the war after the attack on Pearl December 7 1941. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

toxicseagull
02-02-2006, 12:56 PM
you actually ignored perfectly good targets as they were neutral? am i the only morally bankrupt sub commander out there? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif it still all counts towards your final tally http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

WilhelmSchulz.
02-02-2006, 01:01 PM
1942. And the contact reports of nutral convoys, bull****. there are plenty of brits there.

Mon Pavion
02-02-2006, 06:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by toxicseagull:
you actually ignored perfectly good targets as they were neutral? am i the only morally bankrupt sub commander out there? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif it still all counts towards your final tally http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea, but you lose a bunch of renown for sinking neutral shipping.

panthercules
02-02-2006, 06:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rafe1:
I thought that the US entered the war after the attack on Pearl December 7 1941. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Correct - after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, the U.S. declared war only on Japan. For some reason, Germany declared war on the US on December 11, 1941. (Probably this was in hopes that Japan would reciprocate by helping Germany out against the Soviet Union, since Germany's initial thrusts into the USSR in Operation Barbarossa had just basically ground to a halt at the outskirts of Moscow at that point).

Therefore, the American ships in the game should be fair game for attack as enemies within a day or two after December 11, 1941.

Good luck and good hunting!

TheRealWulfmann
02-02-2006, 06:52 PM
The game will penalize you for sinking neutral ships which is inaccurate. If any ship was sailing in the war zone it should be a target. If any ship is sailing in a convoy with British escorts it would be torpedoed. One way to forgo any future problem is to open you SH3 Data folder, CFG, then open "Basic" file and either paste this in or copy it yourself. Then no more penalty.
When you open yours you will notice that after neutral it reads -1. Just delete the minus.
While I did this I still pretend to be subjective and will not torpedo US ships alone and away from Britain or Swedish ships in the North Sea etc.

Wulfmann

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ColorSelected=0xffffffee
ColorNotSelectable=0x676767ee
ColorOthers=0x989898ee

[DAMAGE]
OpenComp=1
PartiallyOpenComp=0.5
EnclosedComp=0.1

[RENOWN]
RenownReachGridObjCompleted=200
RenownPatrolGridObjCompleted=500
CompletedPatrol=500
NEUTRAL=1
ALLIED=1
AXIS=-10

Tontoman666
02-03-2006, 09:42 AM
Yeah, whether a convoy is listed as enemy or neutral just depends on the ratio of the ships types in there. If you hit an 'enemy' convoy a couple of times and sink lots of brit ships, it will get relabled as 'neutral'.

So go after the neutral convoys and pick and choose. What bugs me is as soon as the US entered the war, my convoys no longer have passenger liners http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

T.