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the_atm
05-19-2011, 03:12 PM
really Ubisoft? BOMBS? are they really practicle in this time period? and if you ask me that might make it seem, less fun. like now it's no more about sneaking up on the target it's about making him run towards the bomb then not very stelthfully kill him... isn't that breaking the creed?

the_atm
05-19-2011, 03:12 PM
really Ubisoft? BOMBS? are they really practicle in this time period? and if you ask me that might make it seem, less fun. like now it's no more about sneaking up on the target it's about making him run towards the bomb then not very stelthfully kill him... isn't that breaking the creed?

EnXess
05-19-2011, 03:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by livfreorletmedi:
really Ubisoft? BOMBS? are they really practicle in this time period? and if you ask me that might make it seem, less fun. like now it's no more about sneaking up on the target it's about making him run towards the bomb then not very stelthfully kill him... isn't that breaking the creed? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
When are chase-breakers not practical to an Assassin?

NORTHBOERN1
05-19-2011, 03:17 PM
They should add bombs, and booby traps to mulitplayer too. That'd make camping in groups and roofs a blast.

ShaneO7K
05-19-2011, 03:18 PM
It doesn't really break any of the three tennants of the creed depending on how they are used and who they harm.

Just wait till E3 or until we see them being used before we make any decisions about how good or bad they are.

the_atm
05-19-2011, 03:21 PM
first off, bombs in multiplayer would incourage camping, i hate camping lol, and i hate roof runers, and ya i'll have to wait for E3, when it is it again? and wouldnt it compromise the brotherhood? and it would just about definatly hurt and inocent, i mean a blast would hurt him right? oh well http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

O6EvolutionIXMR
05-19-2011, 03:25 PM
"Incendiary grenades


Hand grenades filled with Greek fire; surrounded by caltrops. (10th-12th c. National Historical Museum, Athens, Greece)
Incendiary grenades, using petroleum, appeared in the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire, not long after the reign of Leo III (717-741).[1] Byzantine soldiers learned that Greek fire, a Byzantine invention of the previous century, could not only be thrown by flamethrowers at the enemy, but also in stone and ceramic jars.[1] Later, glass containers were employed. Byzantine hand grenades with Greek fire in the 10th to 12th centuries are on display in the National Museum at Athens. The use of petroleum for incendiary weapons, or rather variants thereof, spread to Muslim armies in the Near East, from where it reached China by the 10th century.[1]
Some medieval petards were small enough to be employed against enemy troops and be considered as primitive hand grenades"

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H...ade#Byzantine_Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_grenade#Byzantine_Empire)

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A Medieval Byzantine terracotta hand grenade, or incendiary weapon. The interior is filled with black powder, an opening at the top for the fuse, and elaborate incised details on the exterior.
http://www.hixenbaugh.net/images/gallery/lrg/4621a-l.jpg
Source: http://www.hixenbaugh.net/gall...ail.cfm?itemnum=4621 (http://www.hixenbaugh.net/gallery/detail.cfm?itemnum=4621)

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"The first grenades appeared in the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire, not long after the reign of Leo III (717-741). Byzantine soldiers learned that Greek fire, a Byzantine invention of the previous century, could not only be thrown by flamethrowers at the enemy, but also in stone and ceramic jars. Later, glass containers were employed. Byzantine hand grenades with Greek fire in the 10th to 12th centuries are on display in the National Museum at Athens. The use of Greek fire, or rather variants thereof, spread to Muslim armies in the Near East, from where it reached China by the 10th century.
Hand grenades filled with Greek fire; surrounded by caltrops. (10th-12th c. National Historical Museum, Athens, Greece)

Some medieval petards were small enough to be employed against enemy troops and be considered as primitive hand grenades."

Source: http://gilbert1986.blogspot.co...re-hand-grenade.html (http://gilbert1986.blogspot.com/2011/01/byzantine-greek-fire-hand-grenade.html)


You can even buy one if you like...

http://www.artemission.com/Vie...oryGroup=Antiquities (http://www.artemission.com/ViewItems.asp?CategoryID=4&CategoryGroup=Antiquities)

itsamea-mario
05-19-2011, 03:27 PM
Break the creed?
Quite the opposite, using a bomb is much more discreet than stabbing. As in if there's an explosion no one will know it was you, where as if you go and stab them, there's a chance you'll be seen.

The only way it would break the creed is if you killed a civilain or another assassin.

iN3krO
05-19-2011, 04:11 PM
if you stab a guys and no1 notice it than you are following the creed... if you throw a bomb everyone will notice it so you are breaking the creed...

DavisP92
05-19-2011, 04:28 PM
the creed had nothing against stabbing ppl, in fact the hassassins only used blades and nothing more. That is why the crossbow went bye-bye in AC1.

now with the new addition with ACR bombs could add a new level in the stealth w/the eagle sense though. plan ahead and plant a smoke and a flash bomb so u can kill ur target without anyone knowing.

The bombs are a interesting addition, as long as they aren't overpowered and don't have some type of guard type to fight it off.

Xanatos2007
05-20-2011, 12:15 AM
Can you re-size those images please?

Mr_Shade
05-20-2011, 11:09 AM
I have removed the very large images..


Please be wary of large images - due to them breaking the forum formatting..

800x600 max please http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

SAVMATIC
05-20-2011, 11:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by daniel_gervide:
if you stab a guys and no1 notice it than you are following the creed... if you throw a bomb everyone will notice it so you are breaking the creed... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
your an idiot. truly.

iN3krO
05-20-2011, 12:08 PM
SAVMATIC it's you who don't understand the meaning of the creed and the meaning of the first tittle (which wasn't present in the following tittles)......

Mutley_Rulz
05-20-2011, 12:21 PM
Nothing wrong with good old smoke bombs :L
"Over 300 new types of bomb" I think it said, it'll just get confusing.

The Creed
-Stay your Blade from the Flesh of an Innocent
-Hide in Plain Sight
-Never Compromise the Brotherhood

Bombs don't really break anny of the tenets, we should think of bombs as large explosions which go against stealth, but in terms of the Creed they're perfectly sound.
In terms of gameplay/general opinion however....

iN3krO
05-20-2011, 12:43 PM
bombs affects innocents and not only guards.... rule 1 broken... use a bomb is not properly stay hidden...

Mutley_Rulz
05-20-2011, 02:22 PM
That depends on how skillfully the bomb is used, if these bombs have the area of effect smoke bombs currently do then it shouldn't be a problem, and with 300 variations not all will be lethal, there could just be some stun ones.

Depending on how you interpret the first tenet, there's no problem here.

NORTHBOERN1
05-20-2011, 03:02 PM
I'm going to run around, and act like a terrorrist.

iN3krO
05-20-2011, 03:33 PM
If your a bomber suicider than i hope you'll die in your very first mission XD

NORTHBOERN1
05-20-2011, 03:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by daniel_gervide:
If your a bomber suicider than i hope you'll die in your very first mission XD </div></BLOCKQUOTE>They better have a turbin option for the suicider bomber missions, haha.