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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 10:05 PM
BOMBER WING KG-200. A top secret wing of the Luftwaffe commanded by bomber ace Werner Baumbach. It was within this wing that the Luftwaffe established its own suicide (kamikaze) units. In February, 1944, KG-200 was responsible for all strategic and covert aerial missions. Operational orders came direct from Hitler's own intelligence service, the SD. Many of the planes flown by KG-200 were captured Allied aircraft such as the American B-17 and B-24. These were given Luftwaffe markings and colours. But not all, some retained their original Allied markings and colours which completely fooled Allied pilots and ground ack ack gunners. The most secret weapon of KG-200 was the MISTAL bomber, usually a Junkers 88A with four tons of explosives packed into the cockpit. Mounted on top of the bomber was a Messerschmidt BF 109F fighter, both planes controlled by the pilot of the 109F. The bomber was aimed at its target before release. They were intended to destroy bridges over the Elbe and Oder rivers thus delaying the Allied advance on Berlin. However, though some bridges were attacked, in the end they proved to be a dismal failure.

Did any of you have a piceture of the Bf109F on top of Ju88A ? ore now somting of their missions ?

XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 10:05 PM
BOMBER WING KG-200. A top secret wing of the Luftwaffe commanded by bomber ace Werner Baumbach. It was within this wing that the Luftwaffe established its own suicide (kamikaze) units. In February, 1944, KG-200 was responsible for all strategic and covert aerial missions. Operational orders came direct from Hitler's own intelligence service, the SD. Many of the planes flown by KG-200 were captured Allied aircraft such as the American B-17 and B-24. These were given Luftwaffe markings and colours. But not all, some retained their original Allied markings and colours which completely fooled Allied pilots and ground ack ack gunners. The most secret weapon of KG-200 was the MISTAL bomber, usually a Junkers 88A with four tons of explosives packed into the cockpit. Mounted on top of the bomber was a Messerschmidt BF 109F fighter, both planes controlled by the pilot of the 109F. The bomber was aimed at its target before release. They were intended to destroy bridges over the Elbe and Oder rivers thus delaying the Allied advance on Berlin. However, though some bridges were attacked, in the end they proved to be a dismal failure.

Did any of you have a piceture of the Bf109F on top of Ju88A ? ore now somting of their missions ?

XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 10:16 PM
See the link for more although there is a FW190 version on the cards for IL2 FB

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Bf109++Ju88+Mistel




http://www.mikegrantdesign.com/modelpix/Mistel1.jpg


http://www.mikegrantdesign.com/modelpix/Mistel2.jpg


http://www.rlm.at/galerie/12/DSCN4504.jpg

XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 10:52 PM
Don't know the current state of play with it, but this FW190 Mistel was posted here some time ago.

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XyZspineZyX
09-22-2003, 01:25 AM
Only problem with the mistel was that the tyres of the ju-88 were prone to bursting on takeoff due to the combined weight of both aircraft

XyZspineZyX
09-22-2003, 01:28 AM
Which was correct,to have the 109 or 190 gear up or down? I've seen it both ways. What difference did it make?

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XyZspineZyX
09-22-2003, 02:14 AM
I watched the History Channel special on the Nazi secret weapons and they profiled the Mistel. Allied fighters, knowing the volatility of the bomb-laden JU88, would aim for it and try to explode it.

IIRC, the JU88 was loaded with 8,000lbs of explosives.

They had some great guncam footage of Allied pilots attacking mistels. Cool stuff. I think it was part of the "Dead Men Tell No Secrets" series or whatever the name is.

I'm looking forward to attacking those bad boys. I want to see them fall down and go BOOM!

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Message Edited on 09/21/0309:15PM by SlickStick

XyZspineZyX
09-22-2003, 02:26 AM
Apparently several hundred Mistels were stockpiled for an audacious plan to take out mjor russian power stations across the netire front in one hit .. but the russians were advancing so quickly they were diverted to bridge attacks and nearly all destroyed in the effort.



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XyZspineZyX
09-22-2003, 02:35 AM
Ooh, just googled up a nice link about Mistels. Lotsa pics.

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/mistral.html

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XyZspineZyX
09-22-2003, 07:12 AM
Anyway, Mistels were not kamikaze at all. They were intended to release the bomb plane before hitting the target!

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XyZspineZyX
09-22-2003, 08:47 AM
I´v seen something similar - only the JU88 had a cockpit & it was controlled from an FW190.

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