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zugfuhrer
01-24-2004, 08:00 AM
When I fly german planes the inclinometer shows that the plane isnt lined up with the flight path.
Shall it be so?

I have tried to trim it, "to step on the ball" As far as I have experinced the only german plane in IL2 and FB I have found out has rudder trim is the Ju87. Didnt the German engineers like the rudder trim on Me and FW?

As far as have seen on museums and specifications is that the rudder trim existed. Some models used adjustable others used fixed ones. I havnt seen any reaction in the ME and FW when I hit the keys for rudder trim.
I find it most convenient to use the rudder trim on the Soviet fighters.


Further the shift F1 key (wideview) shows a more usable view in the Allieds aircrafts, in the german planes I cant see the aiming point "pipper". Have I made some bad settings?

zugfuhrer
01-24-2004, 08:00 AM
When I fly german planes the inclinometer shows that the plane isnt lined up with the flight path.
Shall it be so?

I have tried to trim it, "to step on the ball" As far as I have experinced the only german plane in IL2 and FB I have found out has rudder trim is the Ju87. Didnt the German engineers like the rudder trim on Me and FW?

As far as have seen on museums and specifications is that the rudder trim existed. Some models used adjustable others used fixed ones. I havnt seen any reaction in the ME and FW when I hit the keys for rudder trim.
I find it most convenient to use the rudder trim on the Soviet fighters.


Further the shift F1 key (wideview) shows a more usable view in the Allieds aircrafts, in the german planes I cant see the aiming point "pipper". Have I made some bad settings?

resev
01-24-2004, 08:16 AM
The shift+F1 is not for wide view, its for the offset of the german positioned aiming recticles.

Th 190 and the 109 only have elevator trim.
If you want a steady straight forward flight path, you'l have to bank the glider slightly to the side oposite to the torque, and you must keep the engine torque under control, in other words, if your intention was to go straight forward, then you should not use full power.

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SlickStick
01-24-2004, 08:22 AM
Shft-F1 also works in other planes to give closer gunsight view than just zooming in.http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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zugfuhrer
01-25-2004, 05:11 AM
So the default rudder trim was set to cruising speed?
I have found out that the Me gets unstable when the ball is centered.
This instability seems to make the gunnery incorrect. I have much better hitpercentage in a Russian plan than in a german.
I have been testshooting on fixed distances with 20 mm guns as well as MG althoug the MG:s dont have the same calibre.

ElfunkoI
01-25-2004, 05:21 AM
The german plane is unstable? I got rudder pedals and just hold a little right rudder as needed. As you move power settings take a glance and see where the ball is now. After a while you develope muscle memory so after hard manuevering you kinda "know" where the defualt 100% throttle rudder input is.

zugfuhrer
01-25-2004, 04:23 PM
Yes if I take a close look in the gunsight the AC makes a fine pendelum move some degrees only, back and forth. I think that it inflicts the aerial gunnery negativly. My hitpercentage is worse in german plane than in Russian.
If the airplane is balanced default, this pendelum movement is less but then you must correct the aimingpoint according to the yaw.