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dogstar4000
09-09-2006, 12:45 PM
Hi,

I bought what I thought was a JG2 cap band along with my other little purchase in a junk shop ( http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/5081034084 )

But I cant find any photos of this item being worn as a cap band. Here it is :
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m203/ChickenHawk_2006/JG2.jpg
Its 44cm long, and so when made into a circle, as if to fit around a cap, it just seems too small. Is it meant to be worn on the sleeve perhaps?

Thanks to anyone who knows.

dogstar4000
09-09-2006, 12:45 PM
Hi,

I bought what I thought was a JG2 cap band along with my other little purchase in a junk shop ( http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/5081034084 )

But I cant find any photos of this item being worn as a cap band. Here it is :
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m203/ChickenHawk_2006/JG2.jpg
Its 44cm long, and so when made into a circle, as if to fit around a cap, it just seems too small. Is it meant to be worn on the sleeve perhaps?

Thanks to anyone who knows.

cawimmer430
09-09-2006, 01:56 PM
I am no expert but have you seen pictures of soldiers of the "Hermann G├┬Âring Division"? They had a little armand with "Hermann G├┬Âring [Division]" written on it.

This looks like it serves the same function. You might want to try www.feldgrau.com (http://www.feldgrau.com) and ask there. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

NagaSadow84
09-09-2006, 02:25 PM
Looks more like a Bundeswehr cufftitle of JG 71 Richthofen. Or it might be from a veterans group.

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/uniforms_firearms/unifo...tles/Richthofen.html (http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/uniforms_firearms/uniforms/luft_cufftitles/Richthofen.html)

NagaSadow84
09-09-2006, 02:29 PM
For more cufftitles:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~rhorta/jgcuff.htm (http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Erhorta/jgcuff.htm)

http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=4824

dogstar4000
09-09-2006, 03:06 PM
Thanks for that both of you.

Those cufftitle pages seem very comprehensive, but I dont see an exact match for mine, perhaps as you say, it might be a veterans issue.

The stitching and the backing on mine seem a bit different, and I cant find one with a pair of wings in the centre.

I suppose Ive just happened to find one thats very rare, and worth millions - or a fake! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Maybe worth a post on Feldgrau.

Thanks again guys.

PraetorHonoris
09-09-2006, 03:19 PM
Why? It has nothing to do with the Wehrmacht. It is a Bundeswehr Ë×rmelband (cufftitle), all military Members of JG71 "Richthofen" are allowed to wear it on the sleeves, positioned exactly 12cm over the cuff. Officers and NCO are furthermore allowed to wear self-made cuffbands.

You can read it all up in Zentraldienstvorschrift 37/10 437-443.

dogstar4000
09-09-2006, 03:40 PM
Hi PraetorHonoris,

Thanks for your reply.

Im interested in your mention of self made cufftitles, but unfortunately my German is very limited.

If you have the time would, you mind expanding on this point?

Many thanks.

PraetorHonoris
09-09-2006, 05:07 PM
Sure. The Officers of the Bundeswehr have to/can (depends on) purchase some of their uniforms on their own. While the camo field dress is issued for example, they have to/can buy the service dress on their own.

The cuffbands are part of the service dress and you can wear cuffbands which are not issued as long as they match the criteria as defined in the ZDv37/10 (3cm width, dark blue background, silver letters etc.).

The difference between the issued and the hand-made cuffbands is therefore quite negligible. You only see a quality difference from very close distance, if any.

flakwagen
09-09-2006, 08:50 PM
I didn't know the German military still allowed private purchase uniforms and insignia. That's kind of neat. That sort of thing stopped a long time ago in the American military.

Dress uniforms with slightly nicer jacket linings are available, but the main parts are still made out of the same horrible polyester material.

I'm not even sure if anyone in North America still knows how to make hand stitched metallic bullion insignia. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I created a Totenkopf collar tab from scratch in the 10th grade. It was rather nice, considering it was made from a swatch of pillowcasing died black with magic markers and ordinary cotton sewing thread on a cardboard backing. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif