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Pirschjaeger
06-09-2007, 07:30 AM
Hi All,

as some of you know I live in China. I'm sure you've all heard of the "Bamboo Curtain". China's fanatic attempts to block all useful information has made doing my research difficult.

I've heard of something called a "proxy" that let's me open almost any site, even from in China. TBH I know nothing about this. I decided to run Synaptic Manager and search "proxy". I got about 300 hits.

I was hoping someone could give me some advise as to which programs I should use and how. I'm using Ubuntu 7.04.

Fritz

Pirschjaeger
06-09-2007, 07:30 AM
Hi All,

as some of you know I live in China. I'm sure you've all heard of the "Bamboo Curtain". China's fanatic attempts to block all useful information has made doing my research difficult.

I've heard of something called a "proxy" that let's me open almost any site, even from in China. TBH I know nothing about this. I decided to run Synaptic Manager and search "proxy". I got about 300 hits.

I was hoping someone could give me some advise as to which programs I should use and how. I'm using Ubuntu 7.04.

Fritz

MrMojok
06-09-2007, 08:39 AM
Look at the bottom left hand corner of this page, if this page is not blocked. the "Free Proxy List" link.

That is what you are looking for.

http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2006/03/internet-censorship-in-china.html

Also, Tor is widely used there for just this purpose. There was recently an article on CNN's website about Tor use in PRC. See if you can load this one:

http://tor.eff.org/

Pirschjaeger
06-09-2007, 11:51 PM
Hi Mojok,

thanks for the info. The first link was blocked and I couldn't understand the second.

About 10 days ago, I created a blog. It worked well for a few days. The content had nothing to do with China but it's now blocked anyway.

This may sound a little "conspiracy theory" but my computer has been acting strange lately. I've had my phone bugged before (I know this because they informed me) but now I'm wondering if my pc is bugged. Sites I regularly open seem to be blocked now if I use my pc but I can open most on other computers, with exception to my blog.

To be honest, I can't wait to get out of this country. As the olympic games near there seems to be more and more of a crackdown on information flow.

Anyway, I tried a free proxy site (Canadian) and I had no problems opening BBC and Wikipedia. So, to the ones who constantly need to control other in order to compensate for what they are "short comings", I offer a 1 finger salute. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Matz0r
06-10-2007, 05:53 AM
Sounds like you need Tor, like Mojok suggested. Using a regular http proxy can bypass site blocks but it won't protect you from the surveillance.

MrMojok
06-10-2007, 07:54 AM
Be careful, Pirsch. I hope you get to leave soon, too.

WWSensei
06-10-2007, 10:16 AM
Yeah, Tor and TorNet are the way to go. They can be slow sometimes but it works.

BaldieJr
06-10-2007, 01:02 PM
I know how to do what you want to do without tor. My biggest fear is telling you how to do it and getting you in trouble.

Here is where linux fails you. Its so easy to get hacked if you don't know anything about the OS.

An example:
Back in my heyday there was an IRC channel where myself and others discussed linux and how to use it. This channel was popular amongst many well-known hackers in the community and therefore drew a lot of attention.

One night a fellow shows up and claims he had successfully installed redhat and was essentially hack-proof. Of course we told him that installing linux doesn't make you immune. He actually argued with us. He droned on and on about how secure his new system was.

I rooted him in less than a minute. He had no users, a simple root password, and allowed ssh logins for root.

I found a picture of him and his dorm room in his home directory and saved it as sort of a trophy, along with a log of all my exploits.

I did rm -rf /* and deleted everything. Moments later he was complaining about his machine being gunked up and not running right.

He went away, reinstalled everything exactly the same way, and came back a few hours later. He hadn't learned a thing about linux. All he knew was how to install.

I trashed his system a second time.

Some people are going to take offense at this, but let me tell you, there is nothing more dangerous than an unsecured unix box. Ok, well maybe a ignorant admin, but thats universally understood.

So, heres the thing. Buy a copy of FreeBSD with the handbook. Do a secure install by the book and enjoy a safe learning environment. If you're still bent on learning linux do so after you've mastered Freebsd. The two are functionally the same, but Freebsd is real unix with sanity. Linux is a kernel with some stuff.

Anyway, ssh will forward socks requests. You needn't download anything. Just get a shell outside of the chinese network. You probably have overseas unix friends who can help you out.

In fact, a lot of network devices can act as proxies if they allow ssh. I've used the same technique to bounce off firewalls, which is seriously alarming to some. Its insanely simple to do.

EDIT: I need to add that using ssh also encrypts your internet traffic. I doubt you are completely immune at this point, however. You'll want to understand more about man-in-the-middle attacks since the gubmint has total control of the network elements between you and the world.

Pirschjaeger
06-10-2007, 08:57 PM
Ha ha ha, Baldie, after reading your posts for years I'd have to say this one looks serious. Has your ID been hacked? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

You can't buy Linux or Unix based OS's here due to it's unpopularity. It seems MS has gotten control of the population's mind and they believe you have to have years of training to use Unix based systems. Chinese are very loyal to Bill. They refuse to copy anything else.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I'll be out of here this year. Once I've made my great escape I'll look into FreeBSD.

triad773
06-11-2007, 02:42 AM
Pirsch- check out http://www.freebsd.org/where.html

I had tried FreeBSD on an old Athlon I have on the basement here. I found that even just the install can be difficult if you are used to the typical Linux GUI-based distros.

Cheers

Triad