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SeaFireLIV
06-19-2006, 11:07 AM
Been reflying BOBwov a bit in preperation for the 2.04 Patch (it promises to be VERY good). Anyway, advert aside, I noticed that the Spitfire in BOBwov sends out a `beeping` warning signal when your throttle power is low, but in IL2/PF there is no beeping warning for the early Spitfire if throttle is low.

It`s got me wondering... 2 Sims, both wanting to be authentic, but who`s correct here? I find it difficult to imagine that the shockwave crew just put the beeping in there without it being authentic to reality, yet why would it be missed from the IL2 Spitfire? An oversight?

Which is correct? BOBwov`s beeping Spit or IL2`s non-beeping Spit?

SeaFireLIV
06-19-2006, 11:07 AM
Been reflying BOBwov a bit in preperation for the 2.04 Patch (it promises to be VERY good). Anyway, advert aside, I noticed that the Spitfire in BOBwov sends out a `beeping` warning signal when your throttle power is low, but in IL2/PF there is no beeping warning for the early Spitfire if throttle is low.

It`s got me wondering... 2 Sims, both wanting to be authentic, but who`s correct here? I find it difficult to imagine that the shockwave crew just put the beeping in there without it being authentic to reality, yet why would it be missed from the IL2 Spitfire? An oversight?

Which is correct? BOBwov`s beeping Spit or IL2`s non-beeping Spit?

LStarosta
06-19-2006, 11:13 AM
Well the Mk.I and Mk.II Spitfires both had Astromech droids due to power couplings that came loose during high-G maneuvers. Subsequent Spitfires had the power couplings fully integrated into the fuselage, so in order to save on weight, the Astromechs were removed. Therefore, beeping was often heard in Mk.I and Mk.II Spitfires, but not on Mk.V Spitfires and newer.

So, both sims are correct.

waffen-79
06-19-2006, 11:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LStarosta:
Well the Mk.I and Mk.II Spitfires both had Astromech droids due to power couplings that came loose during high-G maneuvers. Subsequent Spitfires had the power couplings fully integrated into the fuselage, so in order to save on weight, the Astromechs were removed. Therefore, beeping was often heard in Mk.I and Mk.II Spitfires, but not on Mk.V Spitfires and newer.

So, both sims are correct. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LMFAO http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

So no hyperdrive then???

SeaFireLIV
06-19-2006, 11:15 AM
wow, thnx. Not! I guess spite kicks in early today then?

SeaFireLIV
06-19-2006, 11:29 AM
Guess I had to do the work myself. Found something...

"Many pilots found the new aircraft diffucult to adapt to - those used to open cockpits, often found the closed canopy claustrophobic and left it fully open. Additionally, these pilots were unfamiliar with the retractable undercarriage, and numerous early accidents were caused by their forgetting to lower the Spitfire's wheels. The aircraft did have a warning klaxon but, as this tended to sound whenever vibration increased, it was often switched off - with embarrassing consequences! Taxying was a zig-zag process requiring the aircraft's tail to be swung from side to side so that the pilot could see ahead beyond the aeroplane's long nose. Combined with the narrow-track and somewhat fragile undercarriage , this made crosswind landings hazardous. Nevertheless, it was considered that the aircraft could be flown without risk by the average fully-trained fighter pilot. New pilots came to the Spitfire via Magister and Master trainers and a short spell at an Operational Training Unit (OTU). Experienced pilots converted to type directly on the squadrons."


Evidence seems to suggest the Klaxon warning is authentic to remind pilots to lower undercarriage, but many pilots switch it off.

Thanks for nothing above posters. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

OMK_Hand
06-19-2006, 11:30 AM
Hi SeaFireLIV

In the genuine article there is a warning horn that sounds when the throttle is reduced past a certain point with the landing gear retracted. There's a button on the throttle to turn the horn off if you intended to throttle back to that extent.

So, feather in the cap to BoBwov.

Oops - minute late...

Deedsundone
06-19-2006, 12:02 PM
Battle of Britain II v2.04_06_13 Update

FIXES
1. BF110 engine performance problem.
2. <span class="ev_code_RED">After burner speed up problem for Bombers</span>.??? Is there jet engined bombers in it.Haven`t seen any http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
3. Landing gear down problem, on Low Level Attack Mission.
4. Player engine sound stopping
5. Fixed CTD on Campaign photo

foxyboy1964
06-19-2006, 12:08 PM
@ SeaFireLIV...last week there was a film on UK tv called The Malta Story. In the film Alec ******ss (Obi Wan) plays a Spit pilot. One scene shows him taxiing and the rudder is being kicked from side to side. I wondered why he was doing that. Now I know, cheers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

alphalvr
06-19-2006, 12:13 PM
I NOTICED THAT BEEPING AS WELL.

oops caps.

i posted this before but i also noticed while landing in bob2 (spit) i always bounce and run out of runway yet in il2fb i can land easily even with no undercarriage and various other damage.

which is more real??

the damage modeling kills the bob2 game for me, shoot untill wing falls off really kills the immersion http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

i do like some sound effects more (however unreal) like planes screaming past, i dont know what it was really like but after some bob2 effects i miss them when playing il2. Mind you overall id say il2 sound was better its just bob2 sound sounds more like ww2 films http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

LStarosta
06-19-2006, 02:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
Guess I had to do the work myself. Found something...

"Many pilots found the new aircraft diffucult to adapt to - those used to open cockpits, often found the closed canopy claustrophobic and left it fully open. Additionally, these pilots were unfamiliar with the retractable undercarriage, and numerous early accidents were caused by their forgetting to lower the Spitfire's wheels. The aircraft did have a warning klaxon but, as this tended to sound whenever vibration increased, it was often switched off - with embarrassing consequences! Taxying was a zig-zag process requiring the aircraft's tail to be swung from side to side so that the pilot could see ahead beyond the aeroplane's long nose. Combined with the narrow-track and somewhat fragile undercarriage , this made crosswind landings hazardous. Nevertheless, it was considered that the aircraft could be flown without risk by the average fully-trained fighter pilot. New pilots came to the Spitfire via Magister and Master trainers and a short spell at an Operational Training Unit (OTU). Experienced pilots converted to type directly on the squadrons."


Evidence seems to suggest the Klaxon warning is authentic to remind pilots to lower undercarriage, but many pilots switch it off.

Thanks for nothing above posters. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



Sorry I couldn't help you with your Spitfire question. Let me make it up with a box of these.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000VCZJS.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

OMK_Hand
06-19-2006, 05:11 PM
Well, that's better then. At least I for one now know what Lstarosta is...

SeaFireLIV
06-19-2006, 05:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by OMK_Hand:
Well, that's better then. At least I for one now know what Lstarosta is... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Indeed, we now know what his favourite past-time is....

Megile_
06-20-2006, 10:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by OMK_Hand:
Well, that's better then. At least I for one now know what Lstarosta is... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Indeed, we now know what his favourite past-time is.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Running? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif