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p51srule
09-29-2008, 10:03 AM
Yes its possible!!! I love doing this, I know all the veterans know this one. U pull back till u are going straight up and u pull back hard when u reach 100mph and u start to spin. Im still trying other planes to see if it works, its either the 2 engines and the way the props turn or its to do with the twin tail boom lay out.

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p51srule
09-29-2008, 10:03 AM
Yes its possible!!! I love doing this, I know all the veterans know this one. U pull back till u are going straight up and u pull back hard when u reach 100mph and u start to spin. Im still trying other planes to see if it works, its either the 2 engines and the way the props turn or its to do with the twin tail boom lay out.

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HayateAce
09-29-2008, 11:36 AM
Every once in a green moon, I outstay my welcome at the top of a zoom climb in the Devil. I'm sure my opponents wet their pants trying to climb up to that huge spinning UFO!

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p51srule
09-29-2008, 11:44 AM
I just got off the AA sever and some 10yr kid was trying do to do a upward flatspin after I showed him and he kept failing miserably. (kept crashing in to ground, and other planes) I was tryping it over and over again how to do it and he was like " its too hard " (in a winy voice I bet) I was like http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif so I gave up trying to help him.

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Crikey2008
10-01-2008, 08:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by p51srule:
Yes its possible!!! I love doing this, I know all the veterans know this one. U pull back till u are going straight up and u pull back hard when u reach 100mph and u start to spin. Im still trying other planes to see if it works, its either the 2 engines and the way the props turn or its to do with the twin tail boom lay out.

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"Speed is life in a dogfight" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Twins don't have the stall process usual to single-engined.

It sounds like you are accomplishing an inverted spin (stick back). If it goes flat you don't have the means in il-2 to shift your own pilot's weight forward in an (usually unsuccessful) attempt to restore centre of gravity as some tried in WW2. Military Flight Regulations in WW2 required bailout if in a flat spin because mostly its unrecoverable.

But it seems some in il-2 actually make it and use it.

Daiichidoku
10-01-2008, 09:40 PM
when you say "spin", do you mean more of a "somersault"?

its nonsense, complete BS

and has no purpose other than to suspend you in midair as a perfekt target

luv the way the Lerche (that wasnt even built) get a auto-stab feature, that would have been IDEAL for 38 low speed stall, make it more as IRL http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif


http://www.jamesreese.org/hangarflying/Issue2.htm
(a wartime Lockheed guide from test pilots, for service pilots)

"The '38 is a pilot's dream-come-true when it comes to the stall characteristics. They are unusually good and-although not generally used-are worthwhile investigating so that in an emergency you will know what performance to expect from your ship. We have discovered that the power stall occurs at about 70 M.P.H. with about a 50-foot loss of altitude. The counter rotating propellers eliminate torque and there is no tendency for either wing to dip or fall away."

"You will find "she" is just as steady in a power off stall with gear and flaps retracted or extended.One of the finest characteristics of the '38 is the accelerated stall. Such stalls, accompanied by normal buffeting, occur on any ship when the angle of attack is increased to the point that the airflow over the wing becomes turbulent. As you know, this can happen in sharp turns, pull-outs or other severe maneuvers. The '38 is designed to take the buffeting of the stall and has no tendency to fall off on either wing at any altitude. If combat necessitates, you can hold it in the accelerated stall as long as you can take the buffeting -- the ship will take it much longer. To get out of an accelerated stall immediately, ease up on the stick, permitting the airflow to reestablish normal lift."


if any of that sounds even remotely close to what is in game, please let me know, i havent seen it!

jbrunner
10-01-2008, 10:25 PM
Heh. I think I shot someone down today who was trying this. I was like: "Thanks for the easy target!" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Tranie117
10-05-2008, 04:49 AM
You mean you can't do that in other planes? Oh, well I did it once but didn't think much of it, what with me hanging in the air hardly moving at all for a very long time surounded by Zero's.

Why would you want to do that?

p51srule
10-06-2008, 09:51 AM
I use it for air shows and just for Sh*ts and giggles. its funny when the other player rams u and u survive and he died.

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DKoor
10-06-2008, 03:24 PM
I luv to shoot people up in arcade server with a P-38.
Some of them never considered flying that thing, let alone that they can kill anything in it.
In fact, this fighter is very capable and versatile.
The only real drawback is that compressibility (since other props don't have it).

McHilt
10-08-2008, 11:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by p51srule:
I use it for air shows and just for Sh*ts and giggles. its funny when the other player rams u and u survive and he died.

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"Speed is life in a dogfight" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You might kill scores of bystanders when you perform such act at airshows boy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

M_Gunz
10-08-2008, 12:10 PM
SIM airshows. There's some very good ones, btw.

Here's the clue:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">its funny when the other player rams u and u survive and he died. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Check this thread for more understanding. (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/6991004096)

There are actual for real IRL competition aerobatics pilots that do fly IL2 and have come
to comment on the FM, btw.

Pigeon_
10-08-2008, 04:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DKoor:
I luv to shoot people up in arcade server with a P-38.
Some of them never considered flying that thing, let alone that they can kill anything in it.
In fact, this fighter is very capable and versatile.
The only real drawback is that compressibility (since other props don't have it). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe it's just me, but I find it mighty hard to pull the Hurricane mk.IIc out of a high speed dive. The speeds it can reach are way too low for compressability though...