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woofiedog
12-14-2004, 02:02 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif I see on the Air Warfare page an advertiment or picture for The Last Days PC Game. Which looks like a UBI logo on Game Picture.
Is that going to be a follow up for BoB???
Anyone out there know?

knightflyte
12-14-2004, 03:58 PM
I've seen bits and pieces of it, woofie, but I havesn't fleshed it out too much.

I think its an add on to IL2/FB/PF much like Operation Barbarossa was for the Original IL2. From what I remember reading it should be available Dec/Jan in Europe and then finally to the states. I think you can also order it online.

Sim HQ has a pretty decent thread about it. I read it about 2 weeks ago.

Looking at screen shots, it look quite good and anything that can enhance my IL2 enjoyment will get my money. I hope to see more soon.

regards,
Robert Once you go Track... you never go back.

knightflyte
12-14-2004, 04:34 PM
Here, woofie, check it out.


http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=98;t=013462


http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=98;t=013492


http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=98;t=013376

WTE_Dukayn
12-14-2004, 04:38 PM
1600 missons? bloody hell..

EURO_Snoopy
12-14-2004, 04:54 PM
More details here: The Last Days (http://www.airwarfare.com/tld/index.htm)

knightflyte
12-14-2004, 07:32 PM
I love those winter paint sceemes (SP).
The ME 109 looks especially sweet.

Copperhead310th
12-15-2004, 12:51 AM
Personal advice....Save your money.
these guys are only trying to rake in the bucks off of Olegs hard work with out doing any actual coding of thier own. the ONLY officaliy authorized product of this type was "Battle Over Europe" and it was worked on in some small way by Olegs staff. But even then it's not worht the 30 bucks i paid for it. it's only skins missions. all of wich can be self made of gotten for free with in the community. I personally despise these kinds of expantions. it's becuse of guys like this you can no longer take missions from your net cach and play them any more. Just play a really good co-op? want to host is and play it again? no dice sorry. becuase of ppl like these clowns it is no longer possible to do that.
I'd stay as far away as possible from these things. it's a total rip off.

<span class="ev_code_RED">UNLESS IT HAS 1C:MADDOX GAMES ON THE COVER....DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY.</span>

plumps_
12-15-2004, 02:28 AM
Copperhead, you're here again, hilarious as ever... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

I'm sure you'd also NEVER BUY A BOOK because you've learnt to write yourself at school! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

DON'T BUY SHAKESPEARE'S WORKS! IT'S A RIP-OFF! WRITE SHAKESPEARE'S WORKS YOURSELF!

Seriously, making good missions takes a lot of time. The time it takes to make hundreds of good missions (many hundred hours) could be better spent with earning money. So why not try to make people pay for the work, the talent, the imagination, the research and the time that is needed to create such a product?

I haven't tested this add-on and I don't know if it's actually good. But saying that it can't be good because it's not from 1C:Maddox is just ... (what to say without getting banned for offending someone) ... it's just COPPERHEAD.

Never judge the quality of the product by the name that's written on the box without actually having tested it!



<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I personally despise these kinds of expantions. it's becuse of guys like this you can no longer take missions from your net cach and play them any more. Just play a really good co-op? want to host is and play it again? no dice sorry. becuase of ppl like these clowns it is no longer possible to do that. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I doubt that this is the only reason. I think that the net cache is encrypted to prevent cheating. Before that it was possible to leave a dogfight server, open the mission in the FMB to find out where the targets are, and re-enter the server to destroy them. Or in a coop mission/online war one player could leave the mission, open it in the FMB and tell his team via Teamspeak where the targets are. Now that's not possible anymore because of the encryption.

I'm quite sure that you were told all of this at least once before. But you'll keep repeating the same nonsense anyway...

plumps_
12-15-2004, 03:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Copperhead310th:
Personal advice....Save your money.
these guys are only trying to rake in the bucks off of Olegs hard work with out doing any actual coding of thier own.
...
_<span class="ev_code_RED">UNLESS IT HAS 1C:MADDOX GAMES ON THE COVER....DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY.</span>_ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

1C:Maddox have intentionally made the mission files an open format that allows third-party mission makers to create add-ons because these add-ons are part of this FB/AEP/PF world, they create additional value and prolong the life of the original product.

With these add-ons, in the shops the whole FB/AEP/PF series will conquer more space on the shelves and gain more attention from the customers. It's all in the interest of 1C:Maddox.

F19_Orheim
12-15-2004, 03:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by plumps_:
With these add-ons, in the shops the whole FB/AEP/PF series will conquer more space on the shelves and gain more attention from the customers. It's all in the interest of 1C:Maddox. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
HEAR HEAR!

plumps_
12-15-2004, 04:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by F19_Orheim:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by plumps_:
With these add-ons, in the shops the whole FB/AEP/PF series will conquer more space on the shelves and gain more attention from the customers. It's all in the interest of 1C:Maddox. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
HEAR HEAR! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, I was in some shops yesterday. What did I see in the flight sim corner: A huge shelf full of add-ons for MS FS that in comparision made the IL-2 series look really unimportant to the uninformed customer.

I couldn't find AEP; FB was only available as part of some UBI game compilation. If there hadn't been some copies of TLD and Rebirth of Honor, PF would have stood alone in the fight for the flight sim customers' attention.

woofiedog
12-15-2004, 12:19 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Thank's for the information about The Last Days... knightflyte and EURO_Snoopy!
I had checked on Google about The Last Days... but for some reason couldn't find anything.
Again Thank's

darkhorizon11
12-15-2004, 01:31 PM
I'd better get my fire extinguisher this one is gonna start flaming fast...

Seriously though, I don't get it? I mean 1c still benefits from this don't they? They make a certain percentage of the profits since it is there game right? I mean X1 Software can't just make that add-on without permission, they would get sued wouldn't they?

darkhorizon11
12-15-2004, 01:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by darkhorizon11:
I'd better get my fire extinguisher this one is gonna start flaming fast...

Seriously though, I don't get it? I mean 1c still benefits from this don't they? They make a certain percentage of the profits since it is there game right? I mean X1 Software can't just make that add-on without permission, they would get sued wouldn't they? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Too be honest though I'd wish they'd wait a couple more months until all the updates and new planes are out before they release this. I mean what would a Luft 46 scenario be with out Do 335! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

plumps_
12-15-2004, 04:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by darkhorizon11:
Seriously though, I don't get it? I mean 1c still benefits from this don't they? They make a certain percentage of the profits since it is there game right? I mean X1 Software can't just make that add-on without permission, they would get sued wouldn't they? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I repeat: The mission files are an open format. I've never heard that mission builders need to pay a licence fee to 1C:Maddox or need a permission to publish third-party add-ons. I don't think that 1C benefit directly from the profits. They benefit from the fact that their product is kept alive by more people than they can pay themselves.

Recon_609IAP
12-15-2004, 04:38 PM
well, considering the series has a rather horrible single player experience, maybe something like this would give alot to the people who would rather fly offline?

Although, I think a tool like DCG, which is free (I need to tell Paul to start charging!) is very nice to have.

I think an addon like this, if packaged with reference materials, in depth history, etc.. would make it a collectors item. In other words, it will need to expand outside of just missions

Extreme_One
12-16-2004, 08:25 AM
FYI - The Last Days is a massive dynamic (DGen) campaign pack created by a really nice guy who frequently posts over at Netwings.

His original intention was to create some detailed 1944/45 scenarios to be given away for free but the project grew.

His style of delivery is similar to that which I have adopted in the past with custom menus and skins etc...

The individual missions are extremely rich in detail with each airbase crammed with masses of extra objects which really add to the immersion (I know 'cos I Beta tested one campaign for him)

Anyway the project grew and grew until it became a mammoth 500+ Mb in size.

And each and every Mb will be worth it I reckon.

You tell me how he could have distributed that much data for free?!?

While I would agree that paying for a 3rd party addon can be a rip-off (Combat Over Europe) on this occasion I don't think so.

tankeriv
12-16-2004, 10:29 AM
Hi there,

@ Copperhead310th

I guess you see it the same way as I saw it before just a quick way of making money. Creating some skins in just two weeks and do some missions in a couple of hours.

Eehm.. nope not really.

Started working on TLD as a free mission add-on march this year. Just after AEP had been released. I started adding a lot of objects on the DGen maps. Adding great detail. It became more and more and more. And steadily increased.
My first version of the Berlin map had to be redone because I had been too enthusiast when adding objects. At an AMD Athlon 64 3200+ and a GeForce FX5950 Ultra IL2 performed poor with just about 10 FPS when playing a mission on that map. That was unacceptable and I had to redo it.
It took me quite a while to do the Berlin map. More than a couple of days together and a lot of pain in my hands.

After that I started to work on my initial campaign the Ta-152 high altitude fighter campaign.
The Ta-152 was designed as a high-altitude fighter however the stock campaign claimed it wasn't.
So I wanted an historical accurate campaign.

Eventually it turned into one of the most time-consuming and frustrating jobs I have ever done. But after two months of trying changing trying changing adding changing trying changing etc etc etc. It finally worked.
Finally I got the opps file generating high altitude bomber interception missions for prop fighters.

After that I started creating skins for this campaign. While doing this I thought, hey why not creating a normal fighter campaign above Berlin. After I had done all Berlin missions I thought that it would be nice to add the Balaton area as well to the expansion.
So I did. The same happened to the Lvov area and the Ardennes summer.

Eventually I found out that what Extreme_One already explained :

******************************************

Anyway the project grew and grew until it became a mammoth 500+ Mb in size.

And each and every Mb will be worth it I reckon.

You tell me how he could have distributed that much data for free?!?

******************************************

So I came up with the idea to publish it through cafepress.com but some SimHQ members suggested me I better contacted X1. I did and the publishing of TLD has been the result.

After all TLD has been one of my biggest projects ever. Taking me more than half a year of almost continues work that often took me deep into the night.

Even when during my holiday in France this year I had my notebook with me so I could continue to work on TLD. Of course I did enjoyed the sun but when it became dark outside again I went behind my notebook again. And not everyone was that happy to have such a pleasant person in her presence http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

But to get to the point TLD offers more than most of you think. Their has been spend many hours in creating and improving the campaign scripts and many more in the creation of the skins. Sure you can get them for free on IL2skins. But it is the combination of the campaigns and the skins. It is not just the skins. It is not just the campaigns. Its the combination of the two that makes it.

And I the result is very nice and the missions generated by it are very enjoy full and I did all my best to get an historical accurate add-on.

S!

LeadSpitter_
12-16-2004, 10:53 AM
how can people sell generated mission, i dont get it.

tankeriv
12-16-2004, 11:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
how can people sell generated mission, i dont get it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It is not selling generated missions. It is selling the scripts that generates them.

And the quality of the missions depends on the quality of the scripts and maps where from they are generated.

I did all my best to get the best achievable.

So generated missions are no missions like three fighters at your side three at the enemies.

The TLD missions are quite often like :

eight or more in your flight group. some bombers to escort. one or two other bombers doing their own duty escorted / unescorted by their own group of fighters varying in size. some more fighters airborne same or different nationality ( friendly).
The enemy also has some fighters airborne.
When near the target some more groups of enemy fighters get airborne.

etc etc etc.

Something else I would like to point at are the airfields and ground targets.
http://airwarfare.com/tld/EN/img/screenshots/DGEN_Generated_airfield.jpg

http://airwarfare.com/tld/EN/img/screenshots/Lvov/screenshot_029.jpg

Platypus_1.JaVA
12-16-2004, 11:39 AM
As long as the Il-2 series don't go like the M$F$ $hit, I don't care much. I would love a review. I'm a big fan of offline campaigns. However, I really don't that our beloved sim goes like the MS stuff with numerous "must have" and "marvelous" and above all, expensive add-ons. Both these terms seem to apply to every single one of the M$F$ add-ons, makes me wonder, are there bad add-ons? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

tankeriv
12-16-2004, 12:07 PM
Euro_Snoopy will do a review of TLD as soon as possible.

(*as soon as I get the cd's I can send him because I don't have it yet http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif )

adlabs6
12-16-2004, 12:25 PM
Looks like a fine bit of work on the ground scenes. I still don't have PF, but for the money, lots of well designed missions and campaign scripts would be better for me anyway. Glad to see it works with FB+AEP. What's the expected pricing on this package?

tankeriv
12-16-2004, 12:31 PM
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0006H30Z4/qid%3D1101215506/sr%3D1-2/ref%3Dsr%5F1%5F10%5F2/302-3036152-6176024

19,90 euro

Don't know what that is in dollars.

adlabs6
12-16-2004, 07:34 PM
Thanks for the link, it's about $25 which is nice.

tankeriv
12-22-2004, 06:03 AM
Finally.

The Last Days @ Matrixgames (http://www.matrixgames.com/default.asp?URL=http%3A//www.matrixgames.com/news/news.asp%3Fnid%3D182)


Matrix Games and X1 Software Announce Two Add-Ons for IL-2 Sturmovik Have Gone Gold

Matrix Games and X1 Software (www.x1software.com (http://www.x1software.com)) announced today that they have completed production on two expansions for the game IL-2 Sturmovik. The new unofficial expansions, Case Blue and The Last Days, both require either IL-2 or IL-2 Forgotten Battles to run and are compatible with the ACE Expansion Pack. Additionally, The Last Days is also compatible with Pacific Fighters.

Both Case Blue and The Last Days are scheduled to be released on Monday, December 20th, 2004.

David Heath, Director of Operations at Matrix Games, said, €œThese two expansions are of a marvelous scope. The detail and depth of these two titles is nearly limitless. We feel that they are as essential for IL-2 Sturmovik fans as peanut butter is for jelly.€

Case Blue places the player into the role of either a German or Russian ace pilot. With your wit and skill you will battle either for a second German advance into Soviet Russia, or mount the Russian defense against the German Luftwaffe. With over 1,000 different missions, Case Blue packs in a lot of entertainment for flight sim fans on a budget. Enjoy over 400 multiplayer co-operative missions and over 550 single player missions that will keep your eyes as busy as your hands until the end of the war.


The Last Days takes place, unsurprisingly, during the final hours of World War 2. Fly in one of four theaters: Lvov, Berlin, Hungary or the Ardennes. Experience over thirty dynamic campaigns. If Case Blue wasn€t large enough for you, how about over 1,600 new single player and multiplayer missions! The Last Days includes over 450 new historical aircraft skins that will make any military enthusiast drool with delight. Can you turn the impending German defeat into a victory, or will you fly with the allies and try to hasten the end? The Last Days takes you to the very brink of disaster where it is all on the line and every mission can be the difference between victory and defeat.

Case Blue requires either IL-2 Sturmovik or IL-2 Forgotten Battles to play.

The Last Days requires either IL-2 Sturmovik, IL-2 Forgotten Battles, or Pacific Fighters.

Both are compatible with the official ACE Expansion Pack and IL-2 Sturmovik is a registered trademark of Ubisoft. Neither of these expansions is officially produced or endorsed by Ubisoft or any other third party.

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Note that there is an error in this text.

TLD comes with three installation versions.

IL2 FB
IL2 FB + AEP
IL2 FB + AEP + PF

IL2 FB ( 26 campaigns utilizing everything available within FB )
IL2 FB + AEP ( 33 campaigns )
IL2 FB + AEP + PF ( 36 campaigns + utilizing all new objects coming with PF )

But it is not possible to play TLD with PF as a stand alone as it might look like when first reading the text.

woofiedog
12-22-2004, 07:06 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Thank's for the info tankeriv!
I have Operation Barbarossa and I'm looking forward for The Last Day's.
I've haven't check-up on Case Blue... but will be looking in to that soon.
One quesion though... are both being released Stateside?
Again Thank's http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

tankeriv
12-22-2004, 07:49 AM
Yes they will.

Availeble through matrixgames.com

And I have been told amazon.com too but I couldn't find it there. (yet)

woofiedog
12-22-2004, 08:04 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gifThank's tankeriv!

tankeriv
12-22-2004, 09:41 AM
Yw

sithgod
12-22-2004, 10:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by darkhorizon11:
Seriously though, I don't get it? I mean 1c still benefits from this don't they? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The idea is if you are a new player. You go into the store or are surfing online and find Last days, Battle over Europe etc. You think that looks really cool. You see it's an add-on and you must have FB, AEP or PF so you see it on the shelf and pick it up as well. 1C gets a sale it might not have had before.

While FB is brilliant as it stands the 3rd party stuff is really more exposure. Which is great for 1C. The bigget problem I see is no stores are stocking it.

tankeriv
12-22-2004, 12:32 PM
What do you mean?

Amazon.de

soon Matrixgames.com

and amazon.com? (maybe soon)

tankeriv
12-22-2004, 01:13 PM
BTW a whole bunch of German Sites sell TLD.

http://www.kelkoo.de/b/a/ss_il-2_forgotten_battles.html

faustnik
12-22-2004, 01:29 PM
Tankeriv,

Just a suggestion for a future project. I would be happy to pay for a hand written mission addon specific to a pilot, say Hartmann or Graf, that was historically very accurate and contained a lot of detail in the briefings on the pilots career.

Better yet a twin pac with Graf and Pokryshkin! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Does such a campaign already exist?

crazyivan1970
12-22-2004, 01:42 PM
Anyone else wanna take a shot at man`s hard work? Step into my office. Some of you need to lighten up and get with the program. If takes 4-6 hours to build a good DF map, i can only imagine how long it would take for something like this. If you can`t appriciate, don`t bother posting then. Un freaking believable http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Congrads on release tankeriv, well done. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Capt._Tenneal
12-22-2004, 01:52 PM
Hey, as I've said in other threads before, I won't mind paying for a well made add-on even if it's "just skins and missions" (as some qualify in a derogatory manner). The IL-2 series needs as many products out in the stores to counter the multitude of boxes I see advertised as "for CFS 3" or some such proclamation.
2005 is looking promising with TLD, CB, and ROH being released. I'm buying all three, BTW.

I don't begrudge these campaign makers if they hook up with a publisher and get some monetary compensation for their work. For example, I like Extreme_One's campaigns and glad they are free downloads, but if he gets an epic campaign published in the future as payware I'd buy it.

tankeriv
12-22-2004, 03:13 PM
Thank you for your support ivan.

tankeriv
12-23-2004, 04:48 AM
The Last Days is now available for d.l at matrixgames.com http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

buz13
12-23-2004, 06:33 AM
tankeriv:
I'm ready to order TLD (looks like and excellent addon) but wonder if my system specs are good enough to run the missions....after your comments on Berlin map and FPS on your top line system. How will missions run on my system?
Thanks

Athlon 2.2g
Nvidia G4 4400 128 megs
1 gig ram
ASUS A7V333 MB with on board sound.

Extreme_One
12-23-2004, 07:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Capt._Tenneal:
...

I don't begrudge these campaign makers if they hook up with a publisher and get some monetary compensation for their work. For example, I like Extreme_One's campaigns and glad they are free downloads, but if he gets an epic campaign published in the future as payware I'd buy it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the vote of confidence. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

To be honest though I'm happier doing what I do for free.

Far less pressure - no deadlines etc.. etc...

tankeriv
12-23-2004, 07:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by buz13:
tankeriv:
I'm ready to order TLD (looks like and excellent addon) but wonder if my system specs are good enough to run the missions....after your comments on Berlin map and FPS on your top line system. How will missions run on my system?
Thanks

Athlon 2.2g
Nvidia G4 4400 128 megs
1 gig ram
ASUS A7V333 MB with on board sound. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I had to rewrite the whole Berlin map because it was too heavy for my rig.

TLD runs now at my notebook :

Mobile Athlon XP 2000+
Mobile Radeon 9000 64Mb
40GB 4200Rpm

I think that your rig should be well able to handle TLD.

Dabinla
12-23-2004, 08:29 AM
TLD d/l'd and installed...totally brillant!
thank you very much for all your hard work. I don't fly online...so this is just what the Dr. Ordered to relieve some stress over the holidays
thanks again
Dab

tankeriv
12-23-2004, 11:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dabinla:
TLD d/l'd and installed...totally brillant!
thank you very much for all your hard work. I don't fly online...so this is just what the Dr. Ordered to relieve some stress over the holidays
thanks again
Dab <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am very happy and pleased to hear that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BuzzU
12-23-2004, 11:52 AM
I'm going to order this. I love offline campaigns, and this should keep me busy for awhile. I see no reason to not pay the man for his work.

Someone mentioned Operation Barbarossa. I used to have a free version of that, but I lost it in a format. Is that payware now? Where can I get it if it is?

tankeriv
12-23-2004, 11:56 AM
I think you mean the Experten campaign???

Available @ www.airwarfare.com (http://www.airwarfare.com)

Capt._Tenneal
12-23-2004, 12:05 PM
tankeriv, how big of a download is it ? I want to buy it right now, but to do that I would have go the direct download route and it will be my first time doing that. Is it safe ? How will that handle the documentation you included (if any) also ?

I hear the boxed version won't be released for some time, and then I'll have to hope my local software store carries it.

tankeriv
12-23-2004, 12:16 PM
The download is 654 Mb large.

I guess it should be safe. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

You get a download handler but I haven't done it before also I must confess (*ashamed*)

The boxed version will be available within two to three weeks.

It contains a large manual that covers the installation and the campaigns.

(*large,,,,, well 28 pages but 18 pages effectively, the others are filled with copyright blablablabla*)

BuzzU
12-23-2004, 12:18 PM
I'm downloading now. It's 654 mgs. I'm getting a 400 kb/sec, so it shouldn't be too bad.

BuzzU
12-23-2004, 12:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tankeriv:
The download is 654 Mb large.

I guess it should be safe. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

You get a download handler but I haven't done it before also I must confess (*ashamed*)

The boxed version will be available within two to three weeks.

It contains a large manual that covers the installation and the campaigns.

(*large,,,,, well 28 pages but 18 pages effectively, the others are filled with copyright blablablabla*) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Will the manual be in the download?

tankeriv
12-23-2004, 12:26 PM
I guess it is, but if it is not you can always contact me and I will send you.

BuzzU
12-23-2004, 12:38 PM
I'll let you know. 550 mgs so far. I'm surprised you don't know. You did make a PDF manual right?

xTHRUDx
12-23-2004, 12:44 PM
the only thing that bugs me about this (based on the page 1 screen shot) and other maps that the communtiy make, is when they put objects (like trees, in his example) right next to runways and taxi ways. very unrealistic in my opinion. no base commander or airport operator would have any kind of collision hazards like that anywhere near areas of aircraft operation. i may be wrong but someone please show me a military airfield with these kind of collision hazards.

BuzzU
12-23-2004, 12:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by xTHRUDx:
the only thing that bugs me about this (based on the page 1 screen shot) and other maps that the communtiy make, is when they put objects (like trees, in his example) right next to runways and taxi ways. very unrealistic in my opinion. no base commander or airport operator would have any kind of collision hazards like that anywhere near areas of aircraft operation. i may be wrong but someone please show me a military airfield with these kind of collision hazards. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Look at some of the runways in Alaska.

sithgod
12-23-2004, 12:54 PM
I am just waiting for AEP to arrive. Shipped on the 10th and hasn't come yet. When it does I'll give this one a go.

tankeriv
12-23-2004, 12:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BuzzU:
I'll let you know. 550 mgs so far. I'm surprised you don't know. You did make a PDF manual right? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes I did make a PDF manual.

(originally a RTF manual)

But it was included on the cd.

But I didn't composed the download so I don't knof if they included it in the download. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

xTHRUDx
12-23-2004, 01:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BuzzU:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by xTHRUDx:
the only thing that bugs me about this (based on the page 1 screen shot) and other maps that the communtiy make, is when they put objects (like trees, in his example) right next to runways and taxi ways. very unrealistic in my opinion. no base commander or airport operator would have any kind of collision hazards like that anywhere near areas of aircraft operation. i may be wrong but someone please show me a military airfield with these kind of collision hazards. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Look at some of the runways in Alaska. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

please send me a link to a pic of a MILITARY airfield in Alaska, i'm courious. BTW "the Last Days" doesn't take place in Alaska.

Capt._Tenneal
12-23-2004, 01:12 PM
I read some more on the Matrix games site. For .pdf documents, they have an arrangement with FedEx/Kinkos for US customers, where you can pick up the manual or have it mailed to you. BuzzU, tell us if the file you download has the manual please.

I dont want to use my work PC now, but I'm thinking about buying this and downloading tonight.

tankeriv, any more products you mean to publish in the future ?

tankeriv
12-23-2004, 01:21 PM
Yes, not far from now.

Mission + skin pack will available at airwarfare.com and il2skins.

(The airwarfare the site owner doesn't know anything about it yet but I guess (+ hope) he will be okay with it.)

weeksy
12-23-2004, 01:33 PM
Hi, just a thought about Thruds comments about airfield hazards.

Towards the end of the war the Luftwaffe were operating in a situation where they had lost control of the skys. All their dispersal points for fighters were in woods or tree lines. Open airfields spelt death from roaming Allied air attacks.

I've seen some great photos of late war FW190's taxiing down between a corridor of trees that looks, quite frankly alarming!

Cheers

Weeksy

Capt._Tenneal
12-23-2004, 01:43 PM
And didn't the Me-262s sometimes take off from streches of the Autobahn ?

tankeriv
12-23-2004, 02:01 PM
Besides, the stroke of trees next to the airfield has been created there to get rid of the empty in the middle of nowhere feeling airfield.

With my first attempts that I made I used way too much trees and that looked really realistic but not my fps. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

So I had to do it more sub tile and this is with what I have come up with.

BuzzU
12-23-2004, 02:16 PM
Yes the PDF manual is in the download. I might suggest a readme though. I didn't have a problem installing it, but the instructions to install are on the PDF, and you don't get to see that until it's all installed.



As for the runways. Somebody already mentioned that the Germans had the planes hidden in the forest. Runways were pretty crude 60 years ago. I wouldn't call them military bases.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Some guys will whine about anything.

Capt._Tenneal
12-23-2004, 02:28 PM
BuzzU, does TLD overwrite anything from FB/AEP/PF ? tankeriv can answer this too if he knows the answer.

BuzzU
12-23-2004, 02:41 PM
The main page menu is different. Everything else just seems to be in the missions. All the old missions are still there. I don't see anything else yet.

tankeriv
12-23-2004, 03:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Capt._Tenneal:
BuzzU, does TLD overwrite anything from FB/AEP/PF ? tankeriv can answer this too if he knows the answer. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

TLD overwrites some of the original medals + some backgrounds.

tankeriv
12-24-2004, 02:43 AM
BTW, if theres anyone who has questions, suggestions about TLD. let me know :

tld(-at-)airwarfare.com