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superjohnny
10-04-2005, 06:01 AM
I am considering upgardaing to a AMD FX 57 with a 7800 GTX. Anyone running that sort of rig, how does PF perform. Cheers.

superjohnny
10-04-2005, 06:01 AM
I am considering upgardaing to a AMD FX 57 with a 7800 GTX. Anyone running that sort of rig, how does PF perform. Cheers.

partic_3
10-04-2005, 06:24 AM
Can you make a faster rig than that? Two 7800GTXs, perhaps? Whew!
It'll be magic.

VT-51_Razor
10-04-2005, 08:01 AM
Just ordered mine last night, only I decided on the ATi X850XT video card. It will be running this weekend.

superjohnny
10-04-2005, 08:51 AM
Blimey 1 7800GTX will break the bank never mind 2. However just in case I get lucky later I'll opt for an SLI MB just to keep my options open.

Right now how do I persuade the wife its a good idea?

ashley2005
10-04-2005, 09:15 AM
ask her when shes asleep at like 3 am ....hey hunny can i buy a upgrade for my pc ...."yesssss now stop fecking waking me up"

sorted lol :P

lbhskier37
10-04-2005, 09:15 AM
Id get a dual core chip before I bought a FX57. They might be a little slower in games, but if you ever multitask they are worth it.

Airmail109
10-04-2005, 09:48 AM
If you just want it for il2 go for the FX57.

On the other hand many new games will be able to utilise dual cores....eg...The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, Unreal 3, Operation Flashpoint 2, perhaps BOB http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

BigBoy01
10-04-2005, 11:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VT-51_Razor:
Just ordered mine last night, only I decided on the ATi X850XT video card. It will be running this weekend. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Interesting, why the ATI? I'm going to upgrade to the FX57 myself but I can't seem to make up my mind on the video card. In my experience I've had better success with getting AA to work properly with the ATI's, but then the GeForce 3 500 Ti of mine is getting a little long in the tooth.

oneillj1
10-04-2005, 04:04 PM
I just got a new PC. Alienware with an X2 4800 Dual Core and 2 EVGA 7800 GTX KO Extreme boards in SLI. It runs great, even with water=3 (though I do have the missing textures/parts of planes problem). It's playable at 1600 x 1200, though not silky smooth. At 1280 x 960, it's smooth. Water=3 is amazing - really helps with the immersion factor at low levels (helps to judge height above water) and looks great at altitude as well. And I can do this while burnig a CD in the background. I'd go dual core it I were you. But if all you do is IL2, then the FX57 is still a little faster.

Jim

VT-51_Razor
10-04-2005, 05:19 PM
BigBoy, I originally had a 7800 on order, but changed my mind after reading about so many problems people are having with the nVidia drivers and graphics issues. I went from a GeForce to an ATi a while back, and have had no problems whatsoever with any graphics issues with my ATi.

partic_3
10-04-2005, 05:57 PM
As others have said, FX 57 is peerless for current games, especially PF. Dual core cpu's are considerably slower for single task programs, like PF.

BigBoy01
10-05-2005, 06:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VT-51_Razor:
BigBoy, I originally had a 7800 on order, but changed my mind after reading about so many problems people are having with the nVidia drivers and graphics issues. I went from a GeForce to an ATi a while back, and have had no problems whatsoever with any graphics issues with my ATi. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's my take on it as well (Re: Nvidia issues)after several months of surfing different forums. I don't multitask and my 2 home computers are for flight sims only so I can wait on dual core (and Win64 as well). I kept holding off hoping Nvidia would solve any glitches with a proper driver but at this point I'm gettin' antsy. An FX 57, 2-74GB Raptors, 0 Raid, 2GB Corsair Twin X - I should get by for another 2 years.

I'm not completely confident that SLI or Crossfire will buy enough performance gain in all the sims I use to justify the cost at this point either, and then there's issues with them as well.

Miki40
10-05-2005, 07:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by superjohnny:
I am considering upgardaing to a AMD FX 57 with a 7800 GTX. Anyone running that sort of rig, how does PF perform. Cheers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Just chnged my mobo and graphics card.
Had not had the time for too much testing but...On my FX53 + 7800GTX Extreme I score over 17000 in 3DMark03 and over 8000 in 3DMark05. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
This score will be much higher on SLI but as somebody mentioned here will break the bank!
I will reinstall this afternoon IL2+AEP+PF and get back to you. saying that I am quite concerned whit the missing texture bug on 7800gtx...WHEN THEY WILL FIX IT????!!!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

oneillj1
10-05-2005, 11:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by partic_3:
As others have said, FX 57 is peerless for current games, especially PF. Dual core cpu's are considerably slower for single task programs, like PF. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would not characterize the X2 4800 at 2.4 GHz as "CONSIDERABLY SLOWER" than the FX 57 @ 2.8 GHz in real world performance. Also, the newest release 80 driver from NVIDIA lists support for Dual core CPU's under OpenGL and DirectX so this might narrow the gap even further.

Jim

REDHAWK_1
10-06-2005, 06:12 AM
~S~ All!
I up graded my PC last Nov. I got an Asus A8n-SLI Deluxe Mb, a AMD64 3200 processor, a ATI X800XL PCI Express Card and 2gigs of Ram. I would suggest if u are going to SLI get the Asus A8N SLI Deluxe Mb because it can operate both 32 bit and 64 bit also the FSB is 1gig or better,also has a built in overclocking, it only overclocks when it is needed. So far on Perfect settings I havent had any trouble what soever.

VT-51_Razor
10-06-2005, 07:40 AM
The beauty of going with the single core Athalon series of processors is, whenever you decide that the time is right for you to upgrade to a dual core X2, you just pop one out and the other in! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif The same goes for the SLI. You can run a single video card on the SLI board without any problems, then when the time is right, you just go out and buy another card and stick it in. The only caveat is, you need to make sure you have enough power from your power supply, and you need to start off with a video card that supports SLI.

IMBigredhog
10-06-2005, 09:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by partic_3:
As others have said, FX 57 is peerless for current games, especially PF. Dual core cpu's are considerably slower for single task programs, like PF. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

With all due respect Poppycock!! My dual core 4800 is in no way "considerably" slower than my 57 a little yea and mainly in benchmarks! Then my BFG 7800 GTX OC run PF great with the 4800 no prob. My FX 57 runs it great with the X850. All companies have driver glitches. When you get into these top of the heap parts either one will look great running PF just takes time for drivers to mature.

superjohnny
10-06-2005, 10:30 AM
Phew, thanks for that chaps, I'm really gonna go for it now. I'm gonna stick with the FX57 as i don't multitask etc and I think its got more than enough ummph for now. Also I'll stick with the 7800gtx, I am an unashamed Nvidia Fan Boy and I'm sure the driver issues will get solved.

My current PSU says 431w do you think this will be enough power for the new system. I bloody hope so.

Airmail109
10-06-2005, 10:38 AM
WAAIAT DONT BY THE X850 if you were gonna get the 7800....the new ATI X1800 has been announced and should be in the shops soon. check out overclockers.co.uk......it has support for SM 3.0! It is also MUCH faster than the x850, and no missing textures! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

IMBigredhog
10-06-2005, 11:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Aimail101:
WAAIAT DONT BY THE X850 if you were gonna get the 7800....the new ATI X1800 has been announced and should be in the shops soon. check out overclockers.co.uk......it has support for SM 3.0! It is also MUCH faster than the x850, and no missing textures! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Very valid point, the 7800 is a great choice and youll be very pleased. If buying NOW a very good choice. Or if your willing to wait for x1800, but theres always something new and better on the horizon. Its you who has to decide when to pull the trigger.

Airmail109
10-06-2005, 11:05 AM
The X1800 series are released between the 11th and 18th of October....NOT LONG!

IMBigredhog
10-06-2005, 11:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Aimail101:
The X1800 series are released between the 11th and 18th of October....NOT LONG! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea so long as it isnt another one of those "paper launches" we shall see

lbhskier37
10-07-2005, 01:23 AM
Oh, it is a paper launch. Don't worry, you can supposedly get a 1800XL on Oct 05 (oh wait its already Oct 07, oopsy they lied). 1800XL is almost competitive with the 7800GT, and costs as much as a 7800GTX (if you could find on in a shop), sounds like swell deal!!! 1800XT is supposed to be out on Nov 05 (remember how the XL was out on Oct 05?) and it trades off wins with the 7800GTX (but wait, if you could buy it, it would still cost $100 more than the GTX). Wow, ATI really sold me on its swell products that are super available at a competitive price, and blow the competition away. (as Hardocp said, they might as well have just released a Holodeck, because it would be just as available as the 1800XT), way to go ATI you guys rock!!!

superjohnny
10-07-2005, 09:44 AM
Great but wor abart mi Power Supply. Is 430W enough for an FX57 and 7800GTX (plus DVD drives HD etc)
Anyone know?

REDHAWK_1
10-08-2005, 09:19 PM
I would say u better get at 550 power supply or better and it wouldn't hurt to try and get one with a dual fans