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Mikatsuki95
08-16-2011, 11:50 PM
Okay so one day I took that picture of 16 in the encyclopedia and hopelessly failed at trying to unblur it. So then I went looking for anything we could've missed in the games. (Someone feel free to try and unblur that image please) here's the link to the topic and picture

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...1069024/m/7511002739 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/7511002739)


I went back to the scene where you meet sixteen after all those puzzles. I had the video on full screen and I took a closer look at him. You'll notice he has some glyphs coming out of his body. The ones I saw were (The Masonic Eye, The Nazca Monkey, that one with the three triangles, and that other egyptian symbol one (idk what its called sorry). And there were other symbols I didn't know what they were, but time your pause right and they are easy to see.

Then I tried to decode some of the binary I saw in his body. (This isn't all the info to find mind you, just what 'I' found). What I decoded was "." ">" and "6" Again that's what 'I' found but there's more to decode.

So in short, strange symbols coming out of his body (some never shown before in the game) and some binary. Maybe there's something more to learn. Now I had the idea in my mind that this was probably nothing. I know this info may not seem that significant, but hey there could be something else there. I hope there is.

If I knew how to take screenshots of this and post it here I would. The best I can do is link the video I watched sorry. Hopefully one of you can spot more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...6H6s&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_aZ2-66H6s&feature=related)

Mikatsuki95
08-16-2011, 11:50 PM
Okay so one day I took that picture of 16 in the encyclopedia and hopelessly failed at trying to unblur it. So then I went looking for anything we could've missed in the games. (Someone feel free to try and unblur that image please) here's the link to the topic and picture

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...1069024/m/7511002739 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/7511002739)


I went back to the scene where you meet sixteen after all those puzzles. I had the video on full screen and I took a closer look at him. You'll notice he has some glyphs coming out of his body. The ones I saw were (The Masonic Eye, The Nazca Monkey, that one with the three triangles, and that other egyptian symbol one (idk what its called sorry). And there were other symbols I didn't know what they were, but time your pause right and they are easy to see.

Then I tried to decode some of the binary I saw in his body. (This isn't all the info to find mind you, just what 'I' found). What I decoded was "." ">" and "6" Again that's what 'I' found but there's more to decode.

So in short, strange symbols coming out of his body (some never shown before in the game) and some binary. Maybe there's something more to learn. Now I had the idea in my mind that this was probably nothing. I know this info may not seem that significant, but hey there could be something else there. I hope there is.

If I knew how to take screenshots of this and post it here I would. The best I can do is link the video I watched sorry. Hopefully one of you can spot more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...6H6s&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_aZ2-66H6s&feature=related)

LightRey
08-16-2011, 11:58 PM
Well I wouldn't be surprised if they put some actual clues in there, so it's worth checking out. I'll look at it later when I'm a little more awake to see if I can find something.

Cercatrova
08-17-2011, 02:31 AM
I suggest waiting until the material is released. There are a few concerns I have about trying to gather useful data from this image.

There is no easy way to simply deblur an image which has had a gaussian blue applied. It may be possible with some of the more powerful forensic software, but I do not usually use that. I will see what is available to me. But I suspect too much data is simply gone to really glean any useful data. The other, less relevant concern is you are only going to have so much data in an image that is approximately 300px tall. I suggest waiting until the book comes out. Chances are at some point he will be revealed in game too. If not then someone can get a high res scan of the image and we can try again. Regardless only so much information is actually present to acquire.

Mikatsuki95
08-17-2011, 02:37 AM
True and true. But any effort you would make is greatly appreciated. Cuz I'm not smart enough to figure out how to unblur. All I'm smart enough to know is that if they blurred it they can unblurr it right? But again whatever you could find would be greatly appreciated. And yeah it could be something or nothing revealing. But its gotta be worth a look.

HIBEE12
08-17-2011, 02:46 AM
i looked at the picture really hard an i could see jeans an a black top but no face, then i realized desmond wears that in ACR it cant be desmond though

edit: maybe after all the time in the animus subject 16 has mirrored desmond's imaage

Cercatrova
08-17-2011, 03:00 AM
green top with blue on it.

Also, Mika, your binary won't return a useful result unless it has 8 digits.

I think what we are missing is the Phrygian cap and the Eye of Providence. Both symbols are extremely old, I think it may have been hasty to accept it as referring to the French document, although I do not deny, it could be correct.

Mikatsuki95
08-17-2011, 03:05 AM
Well it had something there at least. You're right some of them turned up nothing when I decoded it but my guess is that wasn't the complete part of it. Like put the two halves that showed nothing together and you get something. Kinda like that.

As for the picture, all I was able to deduce was that on the shirt there was some blue but thats not very enlightening.

LightRey
08-17-2011, 03:22 AM
The thing is I'm not so sure we should pay too much attention to the binary. In the AC games there are binaries popping up all the time. At flags, treasure chests, etc.

roostersrule2
08-17-2011, 03:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
The thing is I'm not so sure we should pay too much attention to the binary. In the AC games there are binaries popping up all the time. At flags, treasure chests, etc. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>its just the animus i think maybe it says something like "why would you take the time to decode this"

Cercatrova
08-17-2011, 03:32 AM
You can not translate any of that binary, as they are 6 digit segments, and it takes 8 to make something readable. THere are examples of functional binary in the series, including the end of the "Truth" video, and some others hidden in images as part of the cluster / glyph solving.

In regards to the Phrygian cap / Eye of Providence, I can say with certainty that Shaun is incorrect in stating that it is onyl seen in one place.
Here is one other, while never used officially, it is there, no less:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...seLossingDrawing.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FirstCommitteeGreatSealObverseLossingDrawing. jpg)

I am just thinking, at different times, these symbols have meant different things at least subtly different.

The eye comes from the eye of Horus, an ancient Egyptian deity. Later, it usually means the watchful gaze of "god". after the renaissance it was a symbol of the trinity. Later, around 1800 it was used by the Masons (Not until after it appeared in American Seal designs).

The cap is usually meant to represent freedom and has wide associations with freedom from antiquity into the modern era.

Here lies the opportunity of thousands of years, for them to appear together somewhere. Typically the symbols that are seen in the Animus are not given any particular context (yet) like these two have been given. But in most cases they refer to something, an event, place, or structure that is ancient, not recent. Both of these are quite ancient. I accept that from our point of view, some things TWCB have referred to the future or directly talked to someone in the future (our present) through someone in the past by way of their generic memory. But it seems odd that the 2 ancient symbols are referring to something so new.

One thing about the French declaration that I will give as a likelihood in it's favor is that I can not think of a good reason for it to be there. I suppose it is not entirely inappropriate since France at the time was still a very godly nation, but it did enter into a new republic which was secular.

LightRey
08-17-2011, 03:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cercatrova:
You can not translate any of that binary, as they are 6 digit segments, and it takes 8 to make something readable. THere are examples of functional binary in the series, including the end of the "Truth" video, and some others hidden in images as part of the cluster / glyph solving.

In regards to the Phrygian cap / Eye of Providence, I can say with certainty that Sean is incorrect in stating that it is onyl seen in one place.
Here is one other, while never used officially, it is there, no less:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...seLossingDrawing.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FirstCommitteeGreatSealObverseLossingDrawing. jpg) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hey, the binary could be Morse code, which uses 3 digits. Or better yet, maybe it's DNA "code". Using 6 digits instead of 3 as a ways of converting quaternary to binary.

As for the Masonic Eye and Phrygian Cap thing, maybe we're looking at it the wrong way. Maybe Shaun meant something different when he said they only come together in one place.

Mikatsuki95
08-17-2011, 03:50 AM
Its possible. If it gives us some new information I'm all ears for anyone who can decode it. Also don't forget about the glyphs that come out of his body. there are some different images in there as I stated before.

EDIT:I could be wrong but I'm getting the feeling nobody took a second look at the video yet

Cercatrova
08-17-2011, 03:54 AM
I did not, but I have revisited it and specifically looked at the symbols. I do not recall any new ones, however I will check again.

Mikatsuki95
08-17-2011, 03:56 AM
Please do cuz some aren't necessarily glyph like. Really just images that kinda stand out. Check for the scenes when the camera zooms in on him.

Cercatrova
08-17-2011, 04:22 AM
Other than animus UI stuff, it looks like the usual symbols / pieces of text associated with S16 since the original Assassin's Creed.