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Sjeler
03-28-2007, 02:31 PM
I'm done with Hartmann's biography and I need to order some new books. This time, I would like to read something more aircraft-luftwaffe-manufacturers oriented so please recommend me something "must read". There are tons of books on amazon and I simply can't decide what to order.

Thanks!

Sjeler
03-28-2007, 02:31 PM
I'm done with Hartmann's biography and I need to order some new books. This time, I would like to read something more aircraft-luftwaffe-manufacturers oriented so please recommend me something "must read". There are tons of books on amazon and I simply can't decide what to order.

Thanks!

Xiolablu3
03-28-2007, 02:50 PM
One of the best I have read :_

Full Circle - The Story of Air Fighting

by

Air Vice Marshall Johnie Johnson. (Top scoring Allied Ace of WW2)

There are 2 versions...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/THE-STORY-OF-AIR-FIGHTING_W0QQite...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/THE-STORY-OF-AIR-FIGHTING_W0QQitemZ290098200641QQcategoryZ29391QQss PageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FULL-CIRCLE-The-Story-of-Air-Figh...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FULL-CIRCLE-The-Story-of-Air-Fighting_W0QQitemZ110107307996QQcategoryZ29391QQss PageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Describes tactics/planes/pilots/everything air war used from WW1-WW2-Korea-Vietnam-Flaklands COnflict.

MOst of it is WW2. Describes his combats and experiences and mixes in parts about other top West Front pilots like Oswald Bolke, Galland, Bader, Don Blakeslee

I picked up the paperback for 50p at a Jumble sale, best buy I ever made http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Heinze Knockes book is a good one 'I flew for the Fuhrer', as is Pierrre Clostermanns 'The Big Show'

ploughman
03-28-2007, 02:57 PM
Sigh for a Merlin by Alex Henshaw isn't a combat memoir but it is the memoir of the man who was test pilot for the Castle Bromwhich aircraft factory. When it comes to Spitfires it's required reading.

XyZspineZyX
03-28-2007, 02:58 PM
He's looking for Luftwaffe oriented books, folks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

ploughman
03-28-2007, 02:59 PM
Yeah, but...those aren't the books you're looking for. Move along now... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Heinz Knocke's "I Flew for the Fuhrer" is a good book. He wrote it after the war so there's the usual discrpenancies you'd expect when it comes to memory, but it's an honest recollection of an ace combat pilot who mostly operated the 109.

JG14_Josf
03-28-2007, 03:14 PM
109 (http://www.amazon.com/Messerschmitt-Bf-109-Illustrated-Study/dp/0887404243)

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/51/a3/3dc1828fd7a0e8906e790110._AA105_.L.jpg

190A/F/G/S (http://www.amazon.com/Fw-190-Aircraft-Monograph-Part/dp/838620835X/ref=sr_1_1/104-0306079-9459177?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1175115997&sr=1-1)

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/838620835X.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIlitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_OU01_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Fw 190 & Ta152 (http://www.amazon.com/Focke-Wulf-Fw-190-Ta-152/dp/B000KRKSQE/ref=sr_1_1/104-0306079-9459177?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1175116079&sr=1-1)

If you want production and manufacturing information, then, those books are good ones.

crucislancer
03-28-2007, 03:21 PM
"JG26 - Top Guns of the Luftwaffe" by Don Caldwell. Great day-to-day history, interesting anicdotes.

JSG72
03-28-2007, 03:48 PM
Luftwaffe Aircraft books?

Have got hundreds.

You couldn't fail to find somethig of interest amongst these Links

Look:

http://www.schifferbooks.com/newschiffer/category_books.php?category_id=99

Or

http://www.ianallanpublishing.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=479.

Happy Hunting http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

La7_brook
03-28-2007, 03:50 PM
http://www.bergstrombooks.elknet.pl/bc-rs/ just got my hands on it ,great read on the air battles over Stalingrad

Waldo.Pepper
03-28-2007, 03:51 PM
My pic that meets your needs would be this book.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/armand/mypic.jpg
An excerpt to give you an idea of the nature of the book.


"The aversion of the two men for each other had by now reached monumental proportions. On the one side was the more experienced Heinkel, a cunning industrialist who had become one of Germany's most important aircraft producers before anyone had even heard of Messerschmitt. He was a goodjudge of men, and as a businessman had left no stone unturned to try to stem young Messerschmitt's rise. He was convinced that his fighter, the He 112, was markedly superior to Messerschmitt's Bf 109, and was embittered by the fact that his design had not been chosen for the Luftwaffe's standard fighter. He was now doing his utmost to ensure that the absolute speed record was held by a Heinkel design. On the other side was the young Professor Messerschmitt -now 41 years of age " who had just been named the Wissenschaftlicher Vize-prasident der Deutsche Akademie fur Luftfahrtforschung (the vice-president of the academy for aviation research). A brilliant designer, he was primarily a scientist, inexperienced in managing an industrial concern, and undoubtedly angry at Heinkel's attempts to obstruct his progress.

The loss of the second Me 209 prototype was a heavy blow to Messerschmitt. As the third prototype was not yet ready, he had the special Daimler Benz engine that had been ordered for it installed in the first prototype, which had been modified in the meantime. This engine was capable of developing some 2,300 hp for several seconds. At last, after a spate of feverish activity, the re-engined machine was ready for an attempt on the record. But the weather proved most uncooperative, as it rained for days on end and the flight had to be postponed several times. Even when the weather improved the troubles were not over. The pilot, Fritz Wendel, was forced to return to the airfield several times when the engine over-heated. Another time, a piece of the engine cowling broke away, because of the shock caused by turbulence from a train passing underneath! Yet again, a trim tab on the ailerons flew off, forcing Wendel to land the aircraft immediately. Finally, on s6th April, he was successful, attaining an average speed of 755 km/h (469 mph), 10 km more than the Heinkel. The absolute speed record had now been broken by two German aircraft in less than a month. The Messerschmitt record was especially played up by the German Ministry of Propaganda. Officially, it was declared that the record had been broken by an Me 109 R, a fictitious designation, giving the impression that the record machine was a 109 with slight modifications. Naturally, no mention was made of the fact that the life expectancy of the engine barely amounted to one hour, or that all the cooling water had evaporated after a flight of only half an hour.

On the same day that the record flight took place, the third prototype of the Me 209, D-IVFP, took to the air for the first time. Heinkel still did not abandon the fight. The rules of the Federation Aero-nautique Internationale, the body sanctioning all aviation records, stipulated that any attempt on the absolute speed record had to be flown at less than 75 m (246 ft) above ground-level, but did not specify the height above sea-level. Heinkel's record flight had been at Oranienburg, some 50 m above sea-level, whereas at Augsburg Messerschmitt had had the benefit of a height of some 500 m above sea-level. The difference in air density had given the Me 209 an advantage of nearly 25 km/h. Heinkel's next step was clear: he would organize a new attempt at Lechfeld, in South Germany, which was situated almost as high as Augsburg. However, the RLM now intervened and forbade Heinkel any further attempts on the record. The RLM did not want the record broken by any other type of aircraft, now that it was generally believed to be held by the Luftwaffe's standard fighter. In fact the Me 2og's record (for absolute speed for piston-engined aircraft) would not be surpassed for thirty years, until August 1969 when Darryl Greenamyer, a Lockheed test-pilot, flew his highly modified Grumman Bearcat across the Californian desert, at an average speed of 483 mph."

Sjeler
03-29-2007, 10:34 AM
Thanks!

Hartford688
03-29-2007, 12:06 PM
How about "Wings of the Luftwaffe" by Eric Brown?

A hugely experienced British test pilot describes flying a wide range of aircraft (separate section for each aircraft), complete with photos, cutaways etc. Great read (as are all his books).

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wings-Luftwaffe-Eric-Brown/dp/1...id=1175191535&sr=8-2 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wings-Luftwaffe-Eric-Brown/dp/1853104132/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/203-1960164-1448738?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1175191535&sr=8-2)

Secondhand only, but that's how I got mine too.

F19_Olli72
03-29-2007, 05:41 PM
How about this one?
http://www.deutsches-museum-shop.com/pictures/6000000007133P.jpg
Its available in english as well the title is "KURT TANK: FOCKE-WULF'S DESIGNER AND TEST PILOT" by Wolfgang Wagner.

Otherwise i recommend Adolf Dickfeld's excellent autobiography "Footsteps of the hunter" which im reading atm.
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/0921991177.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Jambock_Dolfo
03-30-2007, 09:52 AM
The war diary of leutnant Helmut Lipfert.

Can not go wrong with this one.

-dolfo

Xiolablu3
03-30-2007, 12:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hartford688:
How about "Wings of the Luftwaffe" by Eric Brown?

A hugely experienced British test pilot describes flying a wide range of aircraft (separate section for each aircraft), complete with photos, cutaways etc. Great read (as are all his books).

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wings-Luftwaffe-Eric-Brown/dp/1...id=1175191535&sr=8-2 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wings-Luftwaffe-Eric-Brown/dp/1853104132/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/203-1960164-1448738?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1175191535&sr=8-2)

Secondhand only, but that's how I got mine too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks! That looks like a must have http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

dieg777
03-30-2007, 02:30 PM
I have posted a few book reviews here

http://www.airwarfare.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=26&sid...0447cf020d506fdec52c (http://www.airwarfare.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=26&sid=cd907bdd1d820447cf020d506fdec52c)

hope this helps

Hartford688
03-31-2007, 01:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hartford688:
How about "Wings of the Luftwaffe" by Eric Brown?

A hugely experienced British test pilot describes flying a wide range of aircraft (separate section for each aircraft), complete with photos, cutaways etc. Great read (as are all his books).

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wings-Luftwaffe-Eric-Brown/dp/1...id=1175191535&sr=8-2 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wings-Luftwaffe-Eric-Brown/dp/1853104132/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/203-1960164-1448738?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1175191535&sr=8-2)

Secondhand only, but that's how I got mine too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks! That looks like a must have http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hope you like it! My copy has a different cover and is published by Airlife; but that edition at Amazon seems identical - # pages, dimensions etc. Really a very enjoyable book.

Has chapters on:

FW200C
HE162
JU87
DO217
HE177
ME262
DO335
FW190 (and Ta152)
AR234B
JU88
FW189
HE111
JU52
HE219
Bf109G
Bf110
ME163

Typically about 9 pages on each; a description and brief history of the aircraft, a cutaway drawing, and then a detailed description of Cpt Brown's experiences flying the aircraft -takeoff procedure, flying characteristics etc. Great to browse through, or to read before flying the plane on a PC...

Monty_Thrud
03-31-2007, 02:05 AM
Also, "Spitfire on my tail...a view from the other side" by Ulrich Steinhilper & Peter Osborne.

"Luftwaffe test pilot" by Hans-Werner Lerche

"ME-109" by Martin Caidin

Xiolablu3
03-31-2007, 02:53 AM
Bah no copies on Ebay right now.

First time I have found a book I want and I couldnt find it on EBay. (SHows how little reading I do http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

ytareh
03-31-2007, 03:09 AM
Excellent newly released RAF pilots WW2 autobiography.

aloneifly dot com

Hartford688
03-31-2007, 03:23 AM
Looks like 23 quid is the going price just now...Aardvark books (where I got mine) has a copy at that price...same as the Amazon options.

aloneifly
04-02-2007, 02:15 PM
Maybe not exactly the book you are looking for. But if you do fancy a good exciting read from a veteran of the N Africa campaign take a look at my father in law,s book. On his 1st mission as a Wellington bomber pilot he was shot down, lost all his crew and survived days in the desert. He also tells of other hair raising experiences and its a good honest account of what such men had to go through.
You can buy direct from the website using your credit card or a paypal account and its only 6.99 plus P&P.

www.aloneifly.com (http://www.aloneifly.com)

crucislancer
04-02-2007, 02:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Monty_Thrud:
"ME-109" by Martin Caidin </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm reading this one right now. Great read, lots of interesting info about the prototypes. I've seen it in used book stores for $8, usually.