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Oleg_Maddox
08-23-2005, 02:17 AM
Hi folks,

Here is the list of the planes (or only cockpits) that are ready or almost ready for the inclusion in add-ons.
Please be sure: it may happens that not all of them will be released due to lack of time (busy with the next sim). Also pay attention that markered with * are going in the beginning only for Russian market on the separate CD (with the campaigns, new ground objects, maps, etc). Their life on the western market still not defined completely.

Planes:

Avia_B-534
B6N2
*Bi-1 (new)
*Bi-6 (3 engines)
CW21Demon
D-XXI_DANISH
D-XXI_DUTCH
D-XXI_Finn3_Early
D-XXI_Finn3_Late
D-XXI_Finn4
G-55
*IL-10
J2M5
*Ki-27ko
*Ki-27otsu
*La-7R
Letov_S-328
MC-200_I
MC-200_III
MC-200_VII
MC-200_VIIFB
MC-202_III
MC-202_VII
MC-202_XII
MC-205_I
MC-205_III
Mosquito_B_MkIV
Mosquito_FB_MkVI
N1K2-Ja
Re-2000
*Yak-3R
A-20C
Do-335A-0
*Pe-2 series 1
*Pe-2 series 84
*Pe-2 series 110
*Pe-2 series 359
*Pe-3
*Pe-3 bis
F2A-3(Multi1)
F2A-3(USA)

Cockpits:

D-XXI_Finn3_Early
D-XXI_Finn3_Late
Do-335
J2M3
Ju-88A4_Bombard
Ju-88A4_Gunner_1
Ju-88A4_Gunner_2
Ju-88A4_Gunner_3
Ju-88A4_Pilot
MC-200
MC-202
MC-205
Mosquito_FB_MkVI
A-20C
A-20C_bombadier
A-20C_lower_gun
A-20C_upper_gun
CW-21
*IL-10
*IL-10_gunner
*Ki-27
TempestMkV
*Pe-2 series 1
*Pe-2 series 84
*Pe-2 series 110
*Pe-2 series 359
*Pe-3
*Pe-3 bis



Next new small patch that we plan to release in the end of August is v4.02 and will contains:

- Changes and tunes in new FM.
- Yak-7B, 1942 with M-105PF engine
- P-47D boosted for use of 150 octan (almost P-47M performance).


Please read all above with great attention that do not have misunderstanding in future.


Link to thread about Russian Addon`s :http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63110913/m/4371027863

Oleg_Maddox
08-23-2005, 02:17 AM
Hi folks,

Here is the list of the planes (or only cockpits) that are ready or almost ready for the inclusion in add-ons.
Please be sure: it may happens that not all of them will be released due to lack of time (busy with the next sim). Also pay attention that markered with * are going in the beginning only for Russian market on the separate CD (with the campaigns, new ground objects, maps, etc). Their life on the western market still not defined completely.

Planes:

Avia_B-534
B6N2
*Bi-1 (new)
*Bi-6 (3 engines)
CW21Demon
D-XXI_DANISH
D-XXI_DUTCH
D-XXI_Finn3_Early
D-XXI_Finn3_Late
D-XXI_Finn4
G-55
*IL-10
J2M5
*Ki-27ko
*Ki-27otsu
*La-7R
Letov_S-328
MC-200_I
MC-200_III
MC-200_VII
MC-200_VIIFB
MC-202_III
MC-202_VII
MC-202_XII
MC-205_I
MC-205_III
Mosquito_B_MkIV
Mosquito_FB_MkVI
N1K2-Ja
Re-2000
*Yak-3R
A-20C
Do-335A-0
*Pe-2 series 1
*Pe-2 series 84
*Pe-2 series 110
*Pe-2 series 359
*Pe-3
*Pe-3 bis
F2A-3(Multi1)
F2A-3(USA)

Cockpits:

D-XXI_Finn3_Early
D-XXI_Finn3_Late
Do-335
J2M3
Ju-88A4_Bombard
Ju-88A4_Gunner_1
Ju-88A4_Gunner_2
Ju-88A4_Gunner_3
Ju-88A4_Pilot
MC-200
MC-202
MC-205
Mosquito_FB_MkVI
A-20C
A-20C_bombadier
A-20C_lower_gun
A-20C_upper_gun
CW-21
*IL-10
*IL-10_gunner
*Ki-27
TempestMkV
*Pe-2 series 1
*Pe-2 series 84
*Pe-2 series 110
*Pe-2 series 359
*Pe-3
*Pe-3 bis



Next new small patch that we plan to release in the end of August is v4.02 and will contains:

- Changes and tunes in new FM.
- Yak-7B, 1942 with M-105PF engine
- P-47D boosted for use of 150 octan (almost P-47M performance).


Please read all above with great attention that do not have misunderstanding in future.


Link to thread about Russian Addon`s :http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63110913/m/4371027863

EURO_Snoopy
08-23-2005, 02:38 AM
Impressive list, hope you can find the time to get most of them out.
Thanks for the update Oleg

jeanba2
08-23-2005, 02:56 AM
Possible typo :
The Pe-2 and Pe-3 are already available as "AI only", they should be put as "cockpit".
The good news for me is the A20C http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

csThor
08-23-2005, 03:02 AM
Maybe new exterior models, too? (Ju 88 got a facelift, too)

anarchy52
08-23-2005, 03:03 AM
Good news

sadly, no late german fighter planes like Bf-109 K-4 1.98ATA. (similar to P-38 late, *new* P-47 ?late and Mustang III)

Do-335 is technologically and conceptually very interesting aircraft but I predict it will suffer the fate of He-162 and Me-262 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Beaufort-RAF
08-23-2005, 03:11 AM
A20C would mean RAF bomber! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

Marc-David
08-23-2005, 03:12 AM
Definitvely great news! I wish I had more time to play... And a possibility to get the russian addon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Yours, MD

Van Alien
08-23-2005, 03:18 AM
Hi Oleg, good news indeed, please get this nvidia driver problem with missing textures solved too with the "small" patch, this is really a problem for many of us
thanks anyway

Badsight.
08-23-2005, 03:21 AM
fantastic http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


http://xs43.xs.to/pics/05342/IL10.JPG

Jetbuff
08-23-2005, 03:29 AM
So will the Pe-2/Pe-3 become flyable at last? Quick, we need some Russian contacts to smuggle us some "hot" CD's! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

JG53-Falkster
08-23-2005, 03:31 AM
Oleg i have a question about the Ju88 Gunner positions:

Ju-88A4_Bombard
Ju-88A4_Gunner_1
Ju-88A4_Gunner_2
Ju-88A4_Gunner_3
Ju-88A4_Pilot

I count 3 Gunner postions, but actually there are 4, how do you handle the two upper rear Gunner postion (B-Stand) will there be only ONE MG to selcet?!?

Great update, many new good planes!

Oleg_Maddox
08-23-2005, 03:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Van Alien:
Hi Oleg, good news indeed, please get this nvidia driver problem with missing textures solved too with the "small" patch, this is really a problem for many of us
thanks anyway </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is the bug of NVIDIA. They know it.
However, becasue the next version release time of their direver is unknown we probably will go around and fix it by our methods (not the best way I would say)

pourshot
08-23-2005, 03:48 AM
Thanks for the new planes Oleg, but please mate dont spend too long on these patch's I cant wait for Bob http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Van Alien
08-23-2005, 03:49 AM
Good to hear that, i don´t think they (nvidia) care too much, so it would be a good solution if it comes from your side, even if it´s not the best way. For us players it is good enough http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

WWMaxGunz
08-23-2005, 03:53 AM
News is usually good, except for things like car wrecks.
This news you bring is very welcome indeed!
As always, better more right later than less right soon.

Glad you feel better now and wonder, you have truck this time? Or something heavy?
All the best to Maddox Family and those of 1C Workers.

chn06
08-23-2005, 04:00 AM
great news! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

AFJ_Skyghost
08-23-2005, 04:05 AM
No Spit MkXIV????? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

TC_PVT_Roger
08-23-2005, 04:07 AM
Thanks Oleg!

How's BoB coming along buddy?

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Willey
08-23-2005, 04:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">This is the bug of NVIDIA. They know it.
However, becasue the next version release time of their direver is unknown we probably will go around and fix it by our methods (not the best way I would say) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's still the best way to get rid of it quickly. I would not wait for nvidia. They didn't fix a driver bug that occurs in Silent Hunter 3 for half a year now, so the devs built a workaround in the 3rd patch.

And I hope, jeanba2 is right... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

I'm missing the Pe- series in the cockpit list http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

BTW, maybe you should rename the BI-1. AFAIK the BI-1 was a engineless glider to check landing characteristics http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
BI-2 had the engine, BI-3 was the one that crashed (don't know, what's different to BI-2 here) and BI-6 is the one with those ramjets at it's wingtips http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.
As with the Pe-s, I think the Yak-3R and La-7R should also be in the cockpits list...

I'll just hope that we all will get those * crates... waiting for the Il-10 for years http://www.ubisoft.de/smileys/dancing_geek.gif

FritzGryphon
08-23-2005, 04:14 AM
Yay, Avia B-534!

Yes, how is BoB coming along? I will, would give you my first born for some screens http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

FI.Spitsfire
08-23-2005, 04:25 AM
Mossie
Tempest
A20C
Beasty P47
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Thank you!
*Sloppy kiss*

Oleg_Maddox
08-23-2005, 04:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WWMaxGunz:
News is usually good, except for things like car wrecks.
This news you bring is very welcome indeed!
As always, better more right later than less right soon.

Glad you feel better now and wonder, you have truck this time? Or something heavy?
All the best to Maddox Family and those of 1C Workers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

After I sold both crashed cars for the spare parts and got some insurance compensation I decided to buy some chassis (framed) car that will be more safe for the passengers in case of "attack" by other car... I drive now Nissan Pathfinder with diesel engine (such a big car eat just 10-11,5 liters for 100 km in the city!). However my wife now without a car.

HotelBushranger
08-23-2005, 04:36 AM
Hurrah! We Love Oleg!!!

Very lovely list of new planes Oleg, especially Fokker, Ju88 and A20C. Your gonna make me a very happy chappy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Wish the B-534 was flyable, thats a beautiful plane.

Outta curiosity Oleg, where there ever any plans for making a cockpit for the Hawk 75? Cheers mate http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

3 Cheers for Oleg!

Edit: Btw thanks for the Macchi cockpits too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

crazyivan1970
08-23-2005, 04:38 AM
Thanks for update O, http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Now, who do i kill at UBI to get russian addon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

EJGrOst_Caspar
08-23-2005, 04:39 AM
I wonder why the Ki-27 shall go as the only japanese plane into an addon. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Oleg_Maddox
08-23-2005, 04:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Willey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">This is the bug of NVIDIA. They know it.
However, becasue the next version release time of their direver is unknown we probably will go around and fix it by our methods (not the best way I would say) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's still the best way to get rid of it quickly. I would not wait for nvidia. They didn't fix a driver bug that occurs in Silent Hunter 3 for half a year now, so the devs built a workaround in the 3rd patch.

And I hope, jeanba2 is right... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

I'm missing the Pe- series in the cockpit list http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

BTW, maybe you should rename the BI-1. AFAIK the BI-1 was a engineless glider to check landing characteristics http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
BI-2 had the engine, BI-3 was the one that crashed (don't know, what's different to BI-2 here) and BI-6 is the one with those ramjets at it's wingtips http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.
As with the Pe-s, I think the Yak-3R and La-7R should also be in the cockpits list...

I'll just hope that we all will get those * crates... waiting for the Il-10 for years http://www.ubisoft.de/smileys/dancing_geek.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

In VVS docs described that BI-1 (and BI-VS on the factory in a serial production that started in 1942) is the destination for the serial production aircraft.

In the trials you are right - the plane with the design bureau destination "BI-2" had working engine. Destination of design bureau, NII VVS, factory and Army(VVS) was different. Its why in different books you see a lot of contradictions for this plane trials and history.

BI-6 had two jets on the wingtips and should have the new RD-1 jet in the tail. However the new RD-1 wasn't ready and BI-6 trials begins with the only two engines with the start in air (PE-2 as a "prime mover") which was stopped due to problems with such a start.
BI-6 project with ramjets and rocket jet wasn't finished and didn't flew. However we like to test it in a sim. The start from the ground with the the rocket jet, then with the speed over 300 km/h you may switch to the ramjets.

Deadmeat313
08-23-2005, 04:46 AM
Excellent news. I can hardly wait!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

T.

WOLFMondo
08-23-2005, 04:48 AM
Thanks for the update. Tempest and Mossie! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

I wonder how DF servers will treat the ultra rare P47D with M performance?


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Badsight.:
fantastic http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


http://xs43.xs.to/pics/05342/IL10.JPG </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its on the Russian only addon CD http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.

I'll have to get myself a complete set of the IL2 series in Russian so I can get this addon.

Rataslaw
08-23-2005, 04:48 AM
VERY HUGE THANK U!! SPASIBA!!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
Hope for B-534 flyable one day too....so we can finaly beat down huns in CR-42 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif
PS: our southern neighbours, pls don`t take it personally http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif thnks goes to 3rd party too, from Hungaria , at least i think so http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

WOLFMondo
08-23-2005, 04:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by anarchy52:
Do-335 is technologically and conceptually very interesting aircraft but I predict it will suffer the fate of He-162 and Me-262 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They flew operationally, there performance is pretty much similar to the IIC powered Tempest V at low and medium heights so if the Tempest is in DF servers put the Do335 in there too.

MEGILE
08-23-2005, 04:53 AM
Oleg... you are the man!

Thanks especially for Italian planes!!!!!

Great list...

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

F19_Olli72
08-23-2005, 04:55 AM
Thank you Oleg for the update.

starfighter1
08-23-2005, 05:01 AM
hi,
why no fixes in old 3D Cockpits(or new 3D Modelling of few )...and old planes ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
I guess many user will pay also for nic e new addons with refurnished planes /cockpits including http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


I'm sure You Mr. Maddox know them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:
Hi folks,

Here is the list of the planes (or only cockpits) that are ready or almost ready for the inclusion in add-ons.
Please be sure: it may happens that not all of them will be released due to lack of time (busy with the next sim). Also pay attention that markered with * are going in the beginning only for Russian market on the separate CD (with the campaigns, new ground objects, maps, etc). Their life on the western market still not defined completely.

Planes:

Avia_B-534
B6N2
Bi-1 (new)
Bi-6 (3 engines)
CW21Demon
D-XXI_DANISH
D-XXI_DUTCH
D-XXI_Finn3_Early
D-XXI_Finn3_Late
D-XXI_Finn4
G-55
*IL-10
J2M5
*Ki-27ko
*Ki-27otsu
*La-7R
Letov_S-328
MC-200_I
MC-200_III
MC-200_VII
MC-200_VIIFB
MC-202_III
MC-202_VII
MC-202_XII
MC-205_I
MC-205_III
Mosquito_B_MkIV
Mosquito_FB_MkVI
N1K2-Ja
Re-2000
*Yak-3R
A-20C
Do-335A-0
*Pe-2 series 1
*Pe-2 series 84
*Pe-2 series 110
*Pe-2 series 359
*Pe-3
*Pe-3 bis
F2A-3(Multi1)
F2A-3(USA)

Cockpits:

D-XXI_Finn3_Early
D-XXI_Finn3_Late
Do-335
J2M3
Ju-88A4_Bombard
Ju-88A4_Gunner_1
Ju-88A4_Gunner_2
Ju-88A4_Gunner_3
Ju-88A4_Pilot
MC-200
MC-202
MC-205
Mosquito_FB_MkVI
A-20C
A-20C_bombadier
A-20C_lower_gun
A-20C_upper_gun
CW-21
*IL-10
*IL-10_gunner
*Ki-27
TempestMkV


Next new small patch that we plan to release in the end of August is v4.02 and will contains:

- Changes and tunes in new FM.
- Yak-7B, 1942 with M-105PF engine
- P-47D boosted for use of 150 octan (almost P-47M performance).


Please read all above with great attention that do not have misunderstanding in future. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dunkelgrun
08-23-2005, 05:02 AM
Excellent news Oleg, thankyou very much.

But this Their life on the western market still not defined completely. makes no sense at all. We've been clamouring for the Pe-2 since Il-2 first came out. The Western (worldwide) market is a major part of this sim. Surely you realise that most of us will want ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that you release for FB?

Cheers!

Maraz_5SA
08-23-2005, 05:08 AM
Great news, especially the Italian planes (sad the SM.79 did not make it), Ju.88 and A-20C!! Thanks a lot!

Question: will it be a payed add-on or a free one?

Just to know, I would happily pay my euros for all this stuff...

Thanks
Maraz

F19_Ob
08-23-2005, 05:09 AM
Thanks for taking the time for an update and for the continued efforts for this sim despite U work on the BoB project.

I hope this fantastic sim will have a life after BoB aswell.

Regards ob

VONGRAZ
08-23-2005, 05:11 AM
Thanks from the Italian simmers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

RedSpar
08-23-2005, 05:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Oleg posted: P-47D boosted for use of 150 octane (almost P-47M performance). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh man. Someone bar the gates!!! The Luftwhiners will be here any minute!

Hristo will be calling this a fantasy plane any minute now.

Anyhoo, thanks Oleg http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Oleg_Maddox
08-23-2005, 05:27 AM
IL-10 and BI-6
Nothing more to show today.

http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/grab0010.jpg
http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/grab0007.jpg

MadBran
08-23-2005, 05:29 AM
hi M. Maddox

could you patch devicelink with some
missing command ( like mixture... ) or debug
some other ( like canopy or wing fold ?? )
or it's definitively locked for devicelink ?
thanks for this great game...

Rataslaw
08-23-2005, 05:29 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif OOOHHH SH@T!!!!!!
I WANT IT HERE AND NOW!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

nowi`m sure i will not sleep till i`ll have it.....and if, i`ll have only wet dreams bout flyin IL10 !!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Oleg_Maddox
08-23-2005, 05:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by starfighter1:
hi,
why no fixes in old 3D Cockpits(or new 3D Modelling of few )...and old planes ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
I guess many user will pay also for nic e new addons with refurnished planes /cockpits including http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


I'm sure You Mr. Maddox know them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif


</div></BLOCKQUOTE>[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry but we have no time for this, especially for remodelling with better level of quality comparing to the past years releases.
What we are doing is already really big present.
Most forces of the team directed on BoB.

GBrutus
08-23-2005, 05:33 AM
Quote: "Question: will it be a payed add-on or a free one?

Just to know, I would happily pay my euros for all this stuff..."

I would also happily pay for an add-on with the Tempest V and Mosquito, especially as we have had so much for free with the previous patches.

Regarding 4.02, will this have a fix for the missing engine cowling/prop on the Spit Vc? I'm not sure if this was established to be a driver issue or if it was a bug with 4.01.

Thanks for the update and all your hard work! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

neural_dream
08-23-2005, 05:35 AM
Thank you very much for everything. I can't believe there are still people complaining.

Thanx especially for the Wunderbomber.

vocatx
08-23-2005, 05:45 AM
Thank you for all your hard work on this sim. It is most appreciated. The support you continue to give to this community is amazing considering the attitude of some here.

As said before, if you have material for a paid add on like the Russian version, I would gladly purchase it. (I assume the Russian add on is not compatible with the version the rest of us have.)

Once again, my thanks to you.

Low_Flyer_MkII
08-23-2005, 05:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by vocatx:
Thank you for all your hard work on this sim. It is most appreciated. The support you continue to give to this community is amazing considering the attitude of some here.

As said before, if you have material for a paid add on like the Russian version, I would gladly purchase it. (I assume the Russian add on is not compatible with the version the rest of us have.)

Once again, my thanks to you. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's just about what I want to say. Thank you.

VW-IceFire
08-23-2005, 05:56 AM
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!

Slater_51st
08-23-2005, 05:56 AM
Oleg,

Thanks for devoting some time to us while you're hard at work on BoB! Put me down for a Russian add-on too if it's ever available to the westerners! Please!

You're THE MAN!

Always have been, always will be http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif


S! Slater

Lord_Rhah
08-23-2005, 05:58 AM
mmmmmm... mosquito. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

mmmmmmm.... tempest http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif


cheers Oleg!

Cragger
08-23-2005, 05:58 AM
Mr Maddox. A while back someone showed a N1K2-J in progress for addition as flyable has work halted on this project? Just curious and thank you for your continued efforts.

73GIAP_Milan
08-23-2005, 06:00 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif WAHOOW !! Thankyou Oleg !!

Fokker, Italians, Ju88, Tempest, Mosquito.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

To Quote William Dafoe a.k.a. Paul Smecker from Boondock Saints: "It kinda makes me feel like River Dancing" *Insert some funny riverdance act here* http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Thanks Again!

Diablo310th
08-23-2005, 06:12 AM
- P-47D boosted for use of 150 octan (almost P-47M performance).


OMG.....my dream (almsot) Jug and teh Tempest. Oleg.....thank you thank you thank you. WEll there probably goes my camping trip this weekend. I gotta gt that new mobo installed now and tweaked to get ready for my new Jug. Hristo...look out now. LOL

woofiedog
08-23-2005, 06:16 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Thank's Oleg and Team! Extremely Mint line up.
Although a Pe-3 0r Pe-2 and a Ki-27 would be Excellent.
Thank's for all this Hard Work!

WOLFMondo
08-23-2005, 06:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Diablo310th:
- P-47D boosted for use of 150 octan (almost P-47M performance).


OMG.....my dream (almsot) Jug and teh Tempest. Oleg.....thank you thank you thank you. WEll there probably goes my camping trip this weekend. I gotta gt that new mobo installed now and tweaked to get ready for my new Jug. Hristo...look out now. LOL </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd go camping, you'll probably have say...2 weeks before this new patch! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SeaNorris
08-23-2005, 06:27 AM
Hi Oleg!

Great news, although I feel that a Western release of the Russian addon would make sense, if mainly for online play. I would love to have these planes for offline too.

Tempest,Mossie http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

hotspace
08-23-2005, 06:30 AM
Excellent news m8 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Hot Space

SG2_Lemmi
08-23-2005, 06:32 AM
Thanks for the update Oleg.

HotelBushranger
08-23-2005, 06:37 AM
Love the Il-10 shot Oleg!

BanaBob
08-23-2005, 06:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Van Alien:
Hi Oleg, good news indeed, please get this nvidia driver problem with missing textures solved too with the "small" patch, this is really a problem for many of us
thanks anyway </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes please.

USAF_pilot
08-23-2005, 06:45 AM
Oleg thank you very much for the news BUT there is disappointment for all us Ju88 fans
We have waited for this plane to be flyable since last summer.The Ju88 was said to be flyable in patch 4.0 (next patch after 3.04) and now in 4.02 we instead get some P47 "Late".Im happy for allied fliers for the new P47.
As for 4.02 Russian forums are saying Yak is back to its ufo like ability , Mg151 is now popgun as it was in 3.04 and 109 is so porked now P47 can outurn it.I sure hope you havent gone to this extreme as we all trust you to make a NON-biased game and realistic game

269GA-Veltro
08-23-2005, 06:50 AM
Hoooo....how many Macchis!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif Thank a lot mate for this update!

Oleg how many of them will be flyable?

RxMan
08-23-2005, 06:50 AM
Oh boy !, Oh Boy !
The real George ! N1K2-Ja
Low wing, 4 internal wing 20mm.
Excellent B&Z and T&B plane.
My favorite of all time (before the F-86).

IAFS_Painter
08-23-2005, 06:56 AM
That's great news ...

Just a heads up, we do fly with Russian pilots in HyperLobby. I'd hate to find can not just jump into a mission with these guys

(Beside - I want to fly those Pe's http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

Oleg_Maddox
08-23-2005, 06:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by USAF_pilot:
Oleg thank you very much for the news BUT there is disappointment for all us Ju88 fans
We have waited for this plane to be flyable since last summer.The Ju88 was said to be flyable in patch 4.0 (next patch after 3.04) and now in 4.02 we instead get some P47 "Late".Im happy for allied fliers for the new P47.
As for 4.02 Russian forums are saying Yak is back to its ufo like ability , Mg151 is now popgun as it was in 3.04 and 109 is so porked now P47 can outurn it.I sure hope you havent gone to this extreme as we all trust you to make a NON-biased game and realistic game </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I never said that Ju-88 will be in a patch 4.0
All I could say - when ready and together with some others.
I think you was reading other users who said that it will be in 4.0, etc...

Really if you'll look for my previous posts - there is all clear.

csThor
08-23-2005, 07:00 AM
Now I can already see the rumors: Ju 88 will come in 4.1!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

PS: Oleg -you have mail. (status report)

Oleg_Maddox
08-23-2005, 07:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by USAF_pilot:
Oleg thank you very much for the news BUT there is disappointment for all us Ju88 fans
We have waited for this plane to be flyable since last summer.The Ju88 was said to be flyable in patch 4.0 (next patch after 3.04) and now in 4.02 we instead get some P47 "Late".Im happy for allied fliers for the new P47.
As for 4.02 Russian forums are saying Yak is back to its ufo like ability , Mg151 is now popgun as it was in 3.04 and 109 is so porked now P47 can outurn it.I sure hope you havent gone to this extreme as we all trust you to make a NON-biased game and realistic game </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't know what say on Russian forums about 4.02, but there was no changes in the items that you described here. 100% sure.

USAF_pilot
08-23-2005, 07:03 AM
Thanks very much for replies Oleg.I appreciate you taking the time off your busy schedule to actually post here.One of the main reasons why I will keep buying your games - your great interaction
Thanks again and sorry for any misquotes

JG53Frankyboy
08-23-2005, 07:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by csThor:
Now I can already see the rumors: Ju 88 will come in 4.1!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

PS: Oleg -you have mail. (status report) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
=4.10 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Bearcat99
08-23-2005, 07:06 AM
Good to see you posting here O..... Cant wait for the update. This is a good Tuesday morning.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Dtools4fools
08-23-2005, 07:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Posted Tue August 23 2005 05:50
Oh boy !, Oh Boy !
The real George ! N1K2-Ja
Low wing, 4 internal wing 20mm.
Excellent B&Z and T&B plane.
My favorite of all time (before the F-86). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

hhhmm,

in the list under cockpits I only saw mentioned J2M3, isn't that the Raiden/Jack?
George only as AI as it looks?

And the Ki-27 only for Russaina add-on http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
but he said "at the beginning", so maybe one day I will be able to fly this wonderful cr@p-plane... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

****

JG54_Arnie
08-23-2005, 07:11 AM
Thanks for taking the time Oleg. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

And good luck with BoB!

carguy_
08-23-2005, 07:11 AM
Heheheh I hope you know Oleg,that this 4.01 patch was easily the best ever released.Ask yourself why http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Very impressive list for a game that is so old.Lets hope all will make it.I`m not afraid to pay for a plane addon if it motivates you and your team to sacrifice some more time for IL2 series.

I understand you possibly can`t just rename this new fantasy P47 into a P47M?As you know the P47M didn`t serve in all theaters as the P47D.

Maybe the 109 and 190 need few fixes here and there but plz keep the MG151/20 modelled as it is now.

No457_Squog
08-23-2005, 07:14 AM
Dr. Maddox

I don't know how you do it m8 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Keeping one team stretched between BoB & PF(m) !

I was just wondering about the "life of the whole Il-2 series":

After BoB is released, do you plan to continue support for PF(m)?

Would it be very complicated to release the cockpits of the 'older' aircraft in the Il-2 series so they could be redone by 3rd-party modellers and sent back to you with the new technologies implemented?

Thankyou for the updates - you have already surpassed any other developer in regards to customer support.

I count every patch as a GIFT, not a RIGHT. And 1C:Maddox Games shouldn't be made to pay for other peoples' mistakes.

S! - Good luck Dr. Maddox http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Oleg_Maddox
08-23-2005, 07:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by No457_Squog:
Dr. Maddox

I don't know how you do it m8 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Keeping one team stretched between BoB & PF(m) !

I was just wondering about the "life of the whole Il-2 series":

After BoB is released, do you plan to continue support for PF(m)?

Would it be very complicated to release the cockpits of the 'older' aircraft in the Il-2 series so they could be redone by 3rd-party modellers and sent back to you with the new technologies implemented?

Thankyou for the updates - you have already surpassed any other developer in regards to customer support.

I count every patch as a GIFT, not a RIGHT. And 1C:Maddox Games shouldn't be made to pay for other peoples' mistakes.

S! - Good luck Dr. Maddox http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't know that we can support two sims simultaniosly after the release of BoB. BoB is a new level of details and quality.... So we prefer to continue with new one and increase the features and amount there, but not in our old sim.
Also as a sample just look how long time take the implementation of user made things....

We try to form some team that could do somethings with the Il-2 series and engine...
Say there is a team now that plan to make new sim.... probably compatible with the Il-2 but with other era of the planes... Another team also plan to make the sim which wil cover also other era...
And third team would make the maps... by agreement with us - these maps should not be the same as we are doing for the next our own series.

So probably the life if this Il-2 series will be at least two years more. Of course we will help these teams in some questions.

hotspace
08-23-2005, 07:25 AM
Yes, thank you for taking the time out here, plus a big thank you for signing that Guest Book m8 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Can't wait for the new planes etc...

Hot Space

Viikate_
08-23-2005, 07:29 AM
Sweet! Lots of planes used by FAF. Ju-88, Pe-2, Fokkers and Letov can be skinned to look like Fokker C.V. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Thanks Oleg! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Albertmarcel
08-23-2005, 07:32 AM
Mr Maddox, in France we want the patch or add-on with russians planes like Pe2 or Il 10 !

Blottogg
08-23-2005, 07:35 AM
"We try to form some team that could do somethings with the Il-2 series and engine...
Say there is a team now that plan to make new sim.... probably compatible with the Il-2 but with other era of the planes... Another team also plan to make the sim which wil cover also other era...
And third team would make the maps... by agreement with us - these maps should not be the same as we are doing for the next our own series."

Oleg, you big tease. You know mentioning these teams is only going to get us all spun up speculating. Now sit back and watch all us squirrels spin.

Thanks for the update. We're all looking forward to continued enjoyment from FB/PF. While you're in the house, could I request for the BoB FM that the control riggers remove the bungie cords from the rudder rigging? With the new torque/P-factor modelling, the damping on the rudder is starting to become a problem. I don't know if your test pilots have commented on this yet.

Glad to hear you're doing better after the crashes, and thanks again for the continued updates, and gifts.

Tater-SW-
08-23-2005, 07:37 AM
Nice to hear the news. When my Honda got broadsided I switched cars to a full sized jeep wagoneer. That truck didn;t get miles or kilometers per gallon, it simply burned gallons PER HOUR, speed made milage increase, lol. I burned around 4.1 gallons per hour (~17 liters per hour). I feel your pain.

Regarding the planes, I guess the Sally (Ki-21) model we saw the screenshot of didn't make the cut. How sad, woulda been nice to see a single IJA bomber.

Have any of the issues regarding bomber AI been fixed, they have been doing really wierd things like rolling over on their backs.

tater

Kuna15
08-23-2005, 07:38 AM
I use this opportunity to express my gratitude to your work mr.Maddox.
I can say that IL-2 game series is very special in many regards from other games outhere... I don't know anyone who is so good to it's customers like you. There is no big need to even mention that sim itself is among few top games (all genres, overall) ever produced.

Thank you.

Nitrous_DM
08-23-2005, 07:42 AM
Thanks oleg for the Mosquito, I have loved this plane from when i was a young boy, but I have one question, and please, please, please can you answer me.

Here we go,

With you bringing out an addon for the russian community with a different plane set to the rest of the world addon, will we all still be able to fly together on hyperlobby, or will they be incompatible versions of the game???

triggerhappyfin
08-23-2005, 07:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:
I don't know that we can support two sims simultaniosly after the release of BoB. BoB is a new level of details and quality.... So we prefer to continue with new one and increase the features and amount there, but not in our old sim.
Also as a sample just look how long time take the implementation of user made things....

We try to form some team that could do somethings with the Il-2 series and engine...
Say there is a team now that plan to make new sim.... probably compatible with the Il-2 but with other era of the planes... Another team also plan to make the sim which wil cover also other era...
And third team would make the maps... by agreement with us - these maps should not be the same as we are doing for the next our own series.

So probably the life if this Il-2 series will be at least two years more. Of course we will help these teams in some questions. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now this was the best news ever http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Great thing to leave a door open for future development and longer lifespan of IL-2 series.

One thing is for sure..I´ll buy what ever addon to the game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Oleg_Maddox
08-23-2005, 07:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nitrous_DM:
Thanks oleg for the Mosquito, I have loved this plane from when i was a young boy, but I have one question, and please, please, please can you answer me.

Here we go,

With you bringing out an addon for the russian community with a different plane set to the rest of the world addon, will we all still be able to fly together on hyperlobby, or will they be incompatible versions of the game??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It will be incompatible versions. Untill the time when these * planes (maps and objects) will be released for the western language versions that to make all versions compatible.
Biut it may happens not too soon. 1C should sell enough that to cover the expences for these things created.

Nitrous_DM
08-23-2005, 07:58 AM
Thanks ever so much for replying to me and the other guys in this topic. You don't know how much we miss just chatting to you, like the old days, but of course we understand how busy you are.

Thanks ever so much again,

Andy

polak5
08-23-2005, 08:09 AM
S~ oleg.
Great job!!
Ju-88
Mosquito http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
regards, polak

JG52Uther
08-23-2005, 08:31 AM
Fantastic news thanks Oleg for your continued support! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SeaFireLIV
08-23-2005, 08:32 AM
Can`t believe I missed this entire thread! Well, good news anyway. Please see some of my other querys/ suggestions in ORR if you have time.

TPN_Cephas
08-23-2005, 08:36 AM
Awesome, Thanks again Oleg! I must admit I am curious though why the Ki-27 is for the Russian only version. Is there a historical reason? I am not familiar with any Japanese Russian air combat between the Ki-27 and Russian planes, but then again I knew very little about Russian WWII aviation before IL2 came out.

Once again, thanks so much, this is the only game worth playing for me.

p1ngu666
08-23-2005, 08:38 AM
good news and nice to see you oleg http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

just a couple of questions, i153 was used in the ramjet experients? i have a article on the soviet stovepipes (as the article calls them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ) was pre war experiements http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. think that would be a fun ride http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

and what about u2vs/po2 as someone was making cockpits for them, and XIV status if you know?

big thankyou to you and team for new planes, last question
how was your holiday? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Capt._Tenneal
08-23-2005, 08:40 AM
I hope you had a great vacation, Oleg ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thanks for the post and news. We now have some sense of the future direction of the IL-2 series, and you gave us some screenshots too ! Of course, I, like the others, hope that the Russian addon gets released for the rest of the world.

p1ngu666
08-23-2005, 08:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TPN_Cephas:
Awesome, Thanks again Oleg! I must admit I am curious though why the Ki-27 is for the Russian only version. Is there a historical reason? I am not familiar with any Japanese Russian air combat between the Ki-27 and Russian planes, but then again I knew very little about Russian WWII aviation before IL2 came out.

Once again, thanks so much, this is the only game worth playing for me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

there was a conflict before ww2 in manchura? i16 and i15x types used by russians along with others, cant remmber what the japanease used http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

JG53Frankyboy
08-23-2005, 08:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TPN_Cephas:
Awesome, Thanks again Oleg! I must admit I am curious though why the Ki-27 is for the Russian only version. Is there a historical reason? I am not familiar with any Japanese Russian air combat between the Ki-27 and Russian planes, but then again I knew very little about Russian WWII aviation before IL2 came out.

Once again, thanks so much, this is the only game worth playing for me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

google "nomonhan conflict"

XyZspineZyX
08-23-2005, 08:45 AM
Thanks for the news Mr Maddox

Can you please confirm/deny that the NIK2Ja is A/I or flyable, I gather those planes with cockpits are flyable & those without are A/I only (or are there still suprises awaiting us avid fans)

p1ngu666
08-23-2005, 08:46 AM
i feel abliged to thank oleg for kahuna, as i imagine hes either incapacitated himself with joy over new p47, or hes running around screaming yes!!!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

phelan24h
08-23-2005, 08:47 AM
hello oleg

Just to clerify in mine own head, the russsian addon maybe avablible to the western market in the future?

Great sim keep it up

Phelan24h

Maraz_5SA
08-23-2005, 08:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by p1ngu666:
there was a conflict before ww2 in manchura? i16 and i15x types used by russians along with others, cant remmber what the japanease used http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, it was the "Nomonhan incident" and the Japanese were just using the Ki-27.



"...on 11 May 1939 a force of Mongolian cavalry crossed the Khalkhin River into Mongolia, precipitating what the Japanese would call the "Nomonhan Incident", a full scale war between the Japanese Army and the Soviet Union.

The war in the air between the Soviet Air Force and the Japanese Army Air Force was a decided victory for the Japanese. Because of superior training, superior aircraft,and certainly because of the battle experience gained during their months of combat in China, Japanese fighters shot down Russian I-16s, I-152s and I-153s by the droves. However, the war on the ground was a disaster for the Japanese Army. Soviet tanks and infantry stopped the Japanese invasion force cold, and then proceeded to roll them up.

While the Ki-27 proved itself to be far superior to Soviet aircraft a number of serious problems were brought to light. Because of its superior level speed and diving ability the Russian I-16 had been able to break off combat at will, and the heavier larger caliber weapons equipping the Russian aircraft had been very effective while the Japanese 7.7 mm machine guns had become less effective as pilot armor was introduced on Russian aircraft."

(from: http://www.squadron.com/old/ki27/ki27review.htm )


Maraz

JtD
08-23-2005, 08:53 AM
I am really looking forwars to many of those planes. Great news. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I like the planes list, no I love it.

But I really hate all those * - this is bad news.

Tater-SW-
08-23-2005, 08:55 AM
Not a whine, just sad that 3d party models require so much work for you to get in.

The A5M wasn't good enough either, huh?
http://www.pacific-fighters.com/ss/claude.jpg

Or the TBD.
http://www.pacific-fighters.com/ss/deva65.jpg

Or the J1N
http://www.pacific-fighters.com/ss/gekko.jpg

tater

73GIAP_Milan
08-23-2005, 09:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by No457_Squog:
Dr. Maddox

I don't know how you do it m8 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Keeping one team stretched between BoB & PF(m) !

I was just wondering about the "life of the whole Il-2 series":

After BoB is released, do you plan to continue support for PF(m)?

Would it be very complicated to release the cockpits of the 'older' aircraft in the Il-2 series so they could be redone by 3rd-party modellers and sent back to you with the new technologies implemented?

Thankyou for the updates - you have already surpassed any other developer in regards to customer support.

I count every patch as a GIFT, not a RIGHT. And 1C:Maddox Games shouldn't be made to pay for other peoples' mistakes.

S! - Good luck Dr. Maddox http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't know that we can support two sims simultaniosly after the release of BoB. BoB is a new level of details and quality.... So we prefer to continue with new one and increase the features and amount there, but not in our old sim.
Also as a sample just look how long time take the implementation of user made things....

We try to form some team that could do somethings with the Il-2 series and engine...
Say there is a team now that plan to make new sim.... probably compatible with the Il-2 but with other era of the planes... Another team also plan to make the sim which wil cover also other era...
And third team would make the maps... by agreement with us - these maps should not be the same as we are doing for the next our own series.

So probably the life if this Il-2 series will be at least two years more. Of course we will help these teams in some questions. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif THAT is absolutely by far the best news i have heard about a game ever!! And that from the mouth (or fingers) of the big Kahuna Oleg Maddox himself http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

I sure hope this becomes truth, but in whatever way it turns out, i won't EVER regret having bought IL2, FB, AEP and PF.
WAY TO GO OLEG ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

A.K.Davis
08-23-2005, 09:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tater-SW-:
Not a whine, just sad that 3d party models require so much work for you to get in. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>That is a whine, because obviously they would be on the list if they were complete and up to spec. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif The J1N, at least, was dropped by team working on it. Probably same for others.

Anyways, congratulations to Oleg on his recovery and on such a great update to the community. Just let us know if there is anything we can do to help get the Russian add-on into the Western Market beyond making our Russians friends purchase it so you can break even. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

KRISTORF
08-23-2005, 09:06 AM
Cheers Oleg,

Just one question, do we have a date/timeframe for this please.

(All the 'two week' specialists need not answer)

LeLv30_RedWing
08-23-2005, 09:07 AM
Mr Maddox, you mention; "- Changes and tunes in new FM."

Can you say what to expect, or atleast are changes something what will make certain planes totally different to fly?

Oh, and thank you for free add-ons http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

p1ngu666
08-23-2005, 09:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by A.K.Davis:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tater-SW-:
Not a whine, just sad that 3d party models require so much work for you to get in. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>That is a whine, because obviously they would be on the list if they were complete and up to spec. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif The J1N, at least, was dropped by team working on it. Probably same for others.

Anyways, congratulations to Oleg on his recovery and on such a great update to the community. Just let us know if there is anything we can do to help get the Russian add-on into the Western Market beyond making our Russians friends purchase it so you can break even. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

a5m is saqsons (spelling?) baby, and saqson is one of the best modelers, but he has been busy..

Kwiatos
08-23-2005, 09:19 AM
Hi O. Maddox

I think I and many other PF users are most interesting in correct FM and DM in game and new planes etc are on second place.

I wonder how kind of fixes was done in FM/DM part in 4.02????

4.01 patch bring many new bugs and still have many old bugs which need check and correction.

From my experience the most important bugs are:

- no acceleration stall in planes with slots ( Bf109, Laggs, La, Migs)

- wrong stall speed of some planes excpecially Bf 109 series:
- 109 E too high
- 109 G-2 to K-4 - too low stall speed

- prop pitch cheat in Bf 109 series which allow impossilble in RL RPM of enginge

- trim cheat which allow some planes (109 for example) to make very hard turn at high speed

- very strange torque effect in different planes ( some have too big some too small)

- DM of some planes: Fw190 and Bf 109 now are too strong on 20mm and 0,50 cal fire

- weak 37 mm cannon - now is not possible to destroy tanks in P-39 from cannon and is needed many 37 mm hit to shot down bombers

- small FM problems in some planes:
- too slow roll rate and acceleration in Fw190
- too weak high speed handling in Mig3
- too much shake nose in some planes when
firing weapons ( P-51, Spitfire)


At now i dont remeber others bug but i think i put most important things.

I hope 1C and Oleg still care FM/DM of these game which for many hardcore players are the most imoprtant things in these game.

F_vonIzabelin
08-23-2005, 09:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kwiatos:
Hi O. Maddox

I think I and many other PF users are most interesting in correct FM and DM in game and new planes etc are on second place.

I hope 1C and Oleg still care FM/DM of these game which for many hardcore players are the most imoprtant things in these game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Be sure, you has wrong logic, we all fly for graphics!!

Schmouddle-WT
08-23-2005, 09:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:
It will be incompatible versions. Untill the time when these * planes (maps and objects) will be released for the western language versions that to make all versions compatible.
Biut it may happens not too soon. 1C should sell enough that to cover the expences for these things created. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hallo Oleg,

Keep up the good work!

I know my post will be considered controversial, but here we go:

As a loyal customer of yours, I want Russian Addon. I want to buy it and thus support you and your company in your struggle for the ultimate combat flight simulator. Because of a (supposed) deal between you and your publisher I am refused to do so in my territory.

The world has changed and many publishers (DVDs, Music etc...) did not realised how easy is to obtain a certain thing from whatever place on our ole Earth if one really wants it. Ubi has its own way of product placement and as we have seen they have put products on a global market completely ignoring common sense. As we have seen with previous 1:C games, putting it to American market first means all the Europeans had D/L latest the second day after it has been put on the market (and vice-versa). The game arrives to certain markets (CZ,PL for instance) months after initial release...how many players having it D/L because of inability of publisher will actually buy it? Optimistic 20%??
The publishers continue moaning about software piracy. Screw them, it their fault serving software pirates the deal on a silver plate.

I talk openly - if a Russian Addon is sold only in Russian territory, I will find out a way how to get it. Actually I have promised other czech folks the very first day "Russian Addon" is available for sale in Kiev, (Ukraine is considered to be a russian market, since I found Pearl Harbor aka PF to be sold in Kiev) one guy from our offspring company will buy a bunch of CDs and ship it to Czech Republic. Here I will pass them to my fellows against the expenses. If this fails, I will try to download it. I REALLY want to buy it. Depends on a publisher if he serves me.

So Oleg, you want to sell it, we want to buy it. The link between two sides of the deal will appear sooner or later. However the most probable scenario will be most westeners will just D/L from somewhere instead of buying it. (screwed PF sales anyone?)

We love the work and hopefully willing to pay for the fun - but we do not love you THAT much just to let pass the opportunity to get it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I hope guys from Ubi will wake up and allow the distribution of Russion Adddon in the west.

The message to Ubi (and unfortunately to 1:C too) is simple.

We gonna get it no matter what, you decide how we do it.

F_vonIzabelin
08-23-2005, 09:35 AM
Now let's be frank with each other, do you think any of these planes on the list will make into the game?? I think not... it's just a list, and we see how much we can trust our Sun, looking at the ju88 "problem". How many patches ago was it supposed to be??:P

Zoom1985
08-23-2005, 09:45 AM
Will there be F14D Tomcat, MiG29A, F16C? Maybe something from Roswell?

A.K.Davis
08-23-2005, 09:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Schmouddle-WT:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:
It will be incompatible versions. Untill the time when these * planes (maps and objects) will be released for the western language versions that to make all versions compatible.
Biut it may happens not too soon. 1C should sell enough that to cover the expences for these things created. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hallo Oleg,

Keep up the good work!

I know my post will be considered controversial, but here we go:

As a loyal customer of yours, I want Russian Addon. I want to buy it and thus support you and your company in your struggle for the ultimate combat flight simulator. Because of a (supposed) deal between you and your publisher I am refused to do so in my territory.

The world has changed and many publishers (DVDs, Music etc...) did not realised how easy is to obtain a certain thing from whatever place on our ole Earth if one really wants it. Ubi has its own way of product placement and as we have seen they have put products on a global market completely ignoring common sense. As we have seen with previous 1:C games, putting it to American market first means all the Europeans had D/L latest the second day after it has been put on the market (and vice-versa). The game arrives to certain markets (CZ,PL for instance) months after initial release...how many players having it D/L because of inability of publisher will actually buy it? Optimistic 20%??
The publishers continue moaning about software piracy. Screw them, it their fault serving software pirates the deal on a silver plate.

I talk openly - if a Russian Addon is sold only in Russian territory, I will find out a way how to get it. Actually I have promised other czech folks the very first day "Russian Addon" is available for sale in Kiev, (Ukraine is considered to be a russian market, since I found Pearl Harbor aka PF to be sold in Kiev) one guy from our offspring company will buy a bunch of CDs and ship it to Czech Republic. Here I will pass them to my fellows against the expenses. If this fails, I will try to download it. I REALLY want to buy it. Depends on a publisher if he serves me.

So Oleg, you want to sell it, we want to buy it. The link between two sides of the deal will appear sooner or later. However the most probable scenario will be most westeners will just D/L from somewhere instead of buying it. (screwed PF sales anyone?)

We love the work and hopefully willing to pay for the fun - but we do not love you THAT much just to let pass the opportunity to get it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I hope guys from Ubi will wake up and allow the distribution of Russion Adddon in the west.

The message to Ubi (and unfortunately to 1:C too) is simple.

We gonna get it no matter what, you decide how we do it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Seriously, threatening to steal something because you can't have it right away is about as low as you can go. I hope you feel utterly ashamed that you posted this in a public forum.

potver
08-23-2005, 09:47 AM
Hi Oleg,

Thanks for the impressive list, I hope the majority will reach us.

When I read something about N-Vidia drivers I also have a question about flickering skies when bombs or other ordnance fall. When I fire a 30mm(bf-109) into the ground the sky is flickering.
This started with 4.01 beta so not a driver thing?
I did a clean install afterwards but it,s still there.
Is this a known bug and is it possible to get rid of it in the 4.02 patch?

F_vonIzabelin
08-23-2005, 09:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zoom1985:
Will there be F14D Tomcat, MiG29A, F16C? Maybe something from Roswell? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes there will be, Oleg feels the dirty breath of Eagle Dynamics on his neck, and goes supersonic...

Tater-SW-
08-23-2005, 09:52 AM
Anyone who is near enough to buy copies in Russia could buy a lot, mark them up, and sell them on ebay. I will buy one, take that as my preorder for whoever whats to start a side business. I will only buy a legitimate copy, but will pay whatever markup the seller deems appropriate (and shipping to the US).

tater

SaQSoN
08-23-2005, 09:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">a5m is saqson's baby </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, it is not. It was built by someone (I suspect, Dani Santos) for Luthier, to be included into one of the the PF patches.

The model is complete, but needs to be inserted into the engine and further processed. Will it be done or not - I don't know and it is not me to decide this.

F_vonIzabelin
08-23-2005, 09:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tater-SW-:
Anyone who is near enough to buy copies in Russia could buy a lot, mark them up, and sell them on ebay. I will buy one, take that as my preorder for whoever whats to start a side business. I will only buy a legitimate copy, but will pay whatever markup the seller deems appropriate (and shipping to the US).

tater </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

and I think I will buy a Gig of RAM, and LockOn Flamming Cliffs, it will be money much better spent:P

Capt._Tenneal
08-23-2005, 10:02 AM
The A-20 is a pleasant surprise, if we do get it. I had given up all hope of seeing another American plane in the game. Not because of being "Ameri-centric", but because I thought the lawyers had effectively prevented this from happening. I hope this is a sign that things are being resolved.

LEXX_Luthor
08-23-2005, 10:04 AM
Oleg, wellcome back from summer vacation on Novaya Zemlya island (where the sun shines brighter). http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

What happened to...

MiG-9
MiG-13
Jet Lagg
La-7R

I read that Rastorguev was the only Yak-3R pilot and hated it, and was killed by rocket blowing up 1945(?) Rastorguev will be honoured in 21st Century in flight sim. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Russian CD for West Market...lend leace for West Market. Please help us.


TPN_Cephas:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
Awsum, Thanks again Oleg! I must admit I am curious though why the Ki-27 is for the Russian only version. Is there a historical reason? I am not familiar with any Japanese Russian air combat between the Ki-27 and Russian planes, but then again I knew very little about Russian WWII aviation before IL2 came out.

Once again, thanks so much, this is the only game worth playing for me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Russian CD also has Mongolia map, possibly made for 1945 (IL-10) or 1939, I don't know. Russians and Flying Tigers were the major opponents of Army Ki-27. Read Saburo's book--he writes about engaging Russian fighter and bomber in his NAVY A5M.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
By concentrating on the second and third Chinese flights (with one shotai each), only left one Ki-27 taking on the most
experienced of the Chinese pilots (Ma and Teng). Although the Japanese, First Lieutenant Yoshio Sotomura (47th Class),
also was a senior pilot, he made the critical error fighting to the strengths of the Chinese (probably as a result
under-estimating the Chinese pilots and their inferior planes). Instead of fighting in the vertical plane where the
Ki-27 had the advantage, Sotomura got into a turning fight with Teng. While Teng kept Sotomura occupied, Ma climbed
above the two and bounced the Japanese from behind, hitting the Ki-27 in the fuel tanks. Smoke poured from the Ki-27
as Sotomura tried to escape. Evidently damaged, the Ki-27 could not pull away from the normally slower I-15bis. Ma was
able to close to 50m and appeared to hit the Japanese pilot with gunfire as, all of a sudden, the Ki-27 stopped evasive
action and flew straight with level wings. At this critical juncture, all four of Ma's ShKAS machine guns jammed.
Nevertheless, the Ki-27 was done for and it crashed shortly afterwards. The Japanese pilot died of his injuries.
Although, he did not hit the Japanese, Teng contributed to the kill through fine teamwork with his element leader.
The Japanese fighters returned claiming 11 shot down against a reported 20 plus I-15bis for the loss of two fighters
(Harada and Sotomura).

Under "1939" ~ http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/sino-japanese.htm
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bearcat99
08-23-2005, 10:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by F_vonIzabelin:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zoom1985:
Will there be F14D Tomcat, MiG29A, F16C? Maybe something from Roswell? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes there will be, Oleg feels the dirty breath of Eagle Dynamics on his neck, and goes supersonic... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you have nothing positive to contribute to this thread or a legitimate question then stay out of it. I wont be warning either of you again. Be sure. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

F_vonIzabelin
08-23-2005, 10:08 AM
Will we see the Sojuz???, and Mir??

SaQSoN
08-23-2005, 10:09 AM
F_vonIzabelin, ?Ñ"Ñ"?Ñ€, убµ' сµбя. "µ³Ñ"µ сÑ"?нµÑ". http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bearcat99
08-23-2005, 10:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tater-SW-:
Anyone who is near enough to buy copies in Russia could buy a lot, mark them up, and sell them on ebay. I will buy one, take that as my preorder for whoever whats to start a side business. I will only buy a legitimate copy, but will pay whatever markup the seller deems appropriate (and shipping to the US).

tater </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nitrous_DM:
Thanks oleg for the Mosquito, I have loved this plane from when i was a young boy, but I have one question, and please, please, please can you answer me.

Here we go,

With you bringing out an addon for the russian community with a different plane set to the rest of the world addon, will we all still be able to fly together on hyperlobby, or will they be incompatible versions of the game??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It will be <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">incompatible versions</span>. Untill the time when these * planes (maps and objects) will be released for the western language versions that to make all versions compatible.
Biut it may happens not too soon. 1C should sell enough that to cover the expences for these things created. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

269GA-Veltro
08-23-2005, 10:14 AM
http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb....topic;f=127;t=004472 (http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=127;t=004472)

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Tempest cockpit....

http://members.cox.net/covingtonswoodworking/Files/Final_01.jpg

http://members.cox.net/covingtonswoodworking/Files/Final_02.jpg

http://members.cox.net/covingtonswoodworking/Files/Final_03.jpg

http://members.cox.net/covingtonswoodworking/Files/Final_04.jpg

http://members.cox.net/covingtonswoodworking/Files/Final_05.jpg

Bearcat99
08-23-2005, 10:15 AM
I meant it.

T_O_A_D
08-23-2005, 10:15 AM
Thanks for the work and update Oleg. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

PE_Tigar
08-23-2005, 10:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nitrous_DM:
Thanks oleg for the Mosquito, I have loved this plane from when i was a young boy, but I have one question, and please, please, please can you answer me.

Here we go,

With you bringing out an addon for the russian community with a different plane set to the rest of the world addon, will we all still be able to fly together on hyperlobby, or will they be incompatible versions of the game??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It will be incompatible versions. Untill the time when these * planes (maps and objects) will be released for the western language versions that to make all versions compatible.
Biut it may happens not too soon. 1C should sell enough that to cover the expences for these things created. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Could we possibily get 1C to sell us a Western version of the add-on online? Somehow?

KosiMazaki
08-23-2005, 10:20 AM
Oleg when will be aveliable flyable Fokker Dr.I and Soyuz rocket? in 4.09?

And be sure evan Nissan with jet engine will not help when u be hit by a Kamaz truck. And u know i have sold my dog and a jar full of cucumber's just to by such Truck and u know i has a big engine with a steal chassis and it burns 100/100 in the city and in crossroad's no mater. Recommend by Soviet army. And the next will by a T55 tank...

jurinko
08-23-2005, 10:23 AM
yeah IL-10!


http://www.scitech.sk/~donmartinello/Dukla/Dukla-Images/79.jpg

http://www.scitech.sk/~donmartinello/Dukla/Dukla-Images/89.jpg

Tater-SW-
08-23-2005, 10:24 AM
bearcat, I'm not sure about your reply to my post. I said I'd pay someone to buy a copy in russia, and ship it to me. A real copy of whatever it is, no different than buying it while on a trip there, 'cept I save the trip. I have zero interest in owning a pirated copy, and in fact I'd prefer to buy western versions simply to demonstrate there is support for more add ons--something I would likely do even if I had someone overseas buy me some russian add ons.

As for "incompatible" it has already been posted that the difference is easy to deal with by people who know. You needn't run russian windows or anytyhing, apparently the only downside would be the in game text would be cyrillic.

tater

tigertalon
08-23-2005, 10:25 AM
Thank you Oleg and the rest of developer team for all the effort that is still put into FB_AEP_PF.

rickster3459
08-23-2005, 10:25 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifI hope you had a wonderful vacation and I'm looking forward to the new planes,as always.I'm glad to see you're feeling better.

tigertalon
08-23-2005, 10:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 269GA-Veltro:
http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb....topic;f=127;t=004472 (http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=127;t=004472)

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Tempest cockpit....

http://members.cox.net/covingtonswoodworking/Files/Final_01.jpg

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So, tempest uses windscreen itself as a mirror for gunsight light? Didn't some F4U versions do the same?

CMHQ_Izzy
08-23-2005, 10:29 AM
Do you think you will live to see a flyable tempest or ju88??

HARRIER_401
08-23-2005, 10:31 AM
Come on man! Where is the Mk XIV ??? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/SparkyGT/IL2/401bannermay-01.gif

Bearcat99
08-23-2005, 10:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tater-SW-:
bearcat, I'm not sure about your reply to my post. I said I'd pay someone to buy a copy in russia, and ship it to me. A real copy of whatever it is, no different than buying it while on a trip there, 'cept I save the trip. I have zero interest in owning a pirated copy, and in fact I'd prefer to buy western versions simply to demonstrate there is support for more add ons--something I would likely do even if I had someone overseas buy me some russian add ons.

As for "incompatible" it has already been posted that the difference is easy to deal with by people who know. You needn't run russian windows or anytyhing, apparently the only downside would be the in game text would be cyrillic.

tater </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

rgr that.. Im felling you too... I was just pointing out that issue.... I was uinder the impression that it was more than just text.... but hey... no prob. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

JG7_Rall
08-23-2005, 10:35 AM
BoB screenies plz!!!

Thanks for the update Oleg!

PBNA-Boosher
08-23-2005, 10:35 AM
I'm very happy, thank you Oleg!

The only thing I'm disappointed about is the possibility of another add-on. how long ago was it that we bought Pacific Fighters? A year and a bit? that's a bit short, I would say.

JFC_Raven
08-23-2005, 10:43 AM
Great news... glad to see there will be more planes for PF... Thx guys... S!

Flumps
08-23-2005, 10:46 AM
YEY! at last some news about a update for pf, hopefully there will be some fixes too other than more planes but more planes is a good thing!

Monty_Thrud
08-23-2005, 10:49 AM
Oleg...what has happened to the Mk XIV Spitfire?

Is there ever likely to be a 25Lbs boost Mk IX Spitfire?

Great list of aircraft, looking forward to the addon

LeOs.K_Walstein
08-23-2005, 10:51 AM
Oleg! Thank you for information. I`m ever so happy.

I have two new friends practising with your IL-2 -Stormovik at the moment. They will buy also the whole series and they are going to be happy to hear about this possible add-on.

I wish all the best for you, your family and your team!

Walstein

Fish6891
08-23-2005, 10:53 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Schmouddle-WT
08-23-2005, 10:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by A.K.Davis:
Seriously, threatening to steal something because you can't have it right away is about as low as you can go. I hope you feel utterly ashamed that you posted this in a public forum. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The point of my post is somewhere else. I stress here, that if "Russian Addon" is not sold freely around the world (online store, whatever) guys from West will have it anyway.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Schmouddle-WT:
I talk openly - if a Russian Addon is sold only in Russian territory, I will find out a way how to get it. Actually I have promised other czech folks the very first day "Russian Addon" is available for sale in Kiev, (Ukraine is considered to be a russian market, since I found Pearl Harbor aka PF to be sold in Kiev) one guy from our offspring company will buy a bunch of CDs and ship it to Czech Republic. Here I will pass them to my fellows against the expenses. If this fails, I will try to download it. I REALLY want to buy it. Depends on a publisher if he serves me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, this is threatning. I threaten Oleg I will send a guy from our company to Kiev gamestore and let him buy copies (ORIGINALS, if you want) for my czech buddies, because we are not allowed to buy it here.

Read it once again, AKD and tell me if I do lie in any point I mention. This is a description of current state of things and people here - no more, no less.

And BTW I am not ashamed. I have bought the stuff. Not all here did, so whats the point in your rampage against me? My conscience in this case is bright like sunshine.

And imagine you live in well-developed country, member of EU, but you cannot join paypal, several major online store do not ship to your country, producents neglect the nichy market of it? What would you do? What seems to be piece of cake in your chair, might be a problem for somebody else just 300 km from you.

I hope you feel bad about judging people before knowing the background.

tankbuster1973
08-23-2005, 10:57 AM
Wonderful news, but don't understand reason why western market won't get all aircarft. This is upsetting that we are left out.

jamesdietz
08-23-2005, 11:06 AM
The Ju-88...Finally...Oh Momma!

KosiMazaki
08-23-2005, 11:22 AM
Fresh one from HL:
IP banned your pals. u next?

csThor
08-23-2005, 11:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tankbuster1973:
Wonderful news, but don't understand reason why western market won't get all aircarft. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Because Ubisoft can't think further than a bull can pi**. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

I am most displeased with the inability of Ubisoft - or at least the sorry joke they call marketing - to do their job properly. If potential sales do not match their expectations or even the costs for publishing it on a CD there's always the possibility of a download. Even though I only have a 56k Modem would buy it this way (at work we have a T1 line http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif ).

What's the problem Ubisoft? Lack of common sense? Lack of entrepreneurial spirit?

Tater-SW-
08-23-2005, 12:19 PM
Yeah, they could SELL it as a download. No marketing costs whatsoever since the only people that could use it are people who have already bought it. No packaging costs, just bandwidth.

tater

JS312RAF
08-23-2005, 12:37 PM
Good news Oleg and team!
but u forgot to mention Spitfire IIa http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
http://jura.wz.cz/pic/Il2-SpitMkIIa.jpg
http://jura.wz.cz/pic/Il2-SpitMkIIa-menu.jpg
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif i know.. bad joke

NerdConnected
08-23-2005, 12:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Van Alien:
Hi Oleg, good news indeed, please get this nvidia driver problem with missing textures solved too with the "small" patch, this is really a problem for many of us
thanks anyway </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is the bug of NVIDIA. They know it.
However, becasue the next version release time of their direver is unknown we probably will go around and fix it by our methods (not the best way I would say) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oleg,

Looking forward to the N1K2-J and Mossie ;-)

But....

Will the shader 3 problem also be fixed? I know it's a Nvidia bug, but maybe there's a way to get around it just like the missing texture problem. Or did Nvidia promise to fix this in their next driver release?

Mark

Labienus
08-23-2005, 12:48 PM
As allways, we get brand new patch with new planes when the planes from old IL2 Sturmovik still flyes like UFO. But we get nice planes and nice graphics... and offcourse there are no time to fix it. But be sure next patch will fix everything and it is most realistic.

For exemple cockpit of F4U was wrong from the beginning. But it is universal for all... and that's why F4U-1 (Corsair Mk.I) has switches for bombs, rockets and drop tanks wich Corsair had from F4U-1D version. And that's why the visibility from F4U-1 (Corsair Mk.I) is the same as in next versions wich also wrong. But in the next patch we get brand new planes rofl

Great... and u Oleg want us to buy your next sim when u can't make your first one for good? Give me a break...

4.02 rofl
BTW I wonder what next will be easier then before in FM... cuz flying is easy LOL http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
FB v. 1,2...4.02 - a history of making flying easy... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Danschnell
08-23-2005, 12:54 PM
Noooooo. NO JU-88C-6!!!

(And no, I don't mean 'Oleg you forgot to mention Ju-88C-6' or 'Oleg where is my Ju-88C-6')

Just dissappointed thats all. I've been waiting years now for a replacement for my Bf-110

asgeirr73
08-23-2005, 12:56 PM
Great News!! and almost all the planes I have missed to (Mosqito, JU-88, Tempest)
good work Oleg http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

klemlao
08-23-2005, 01:07 PM
Great news Oleg, another step forward in a 60 year old world that is impossible to recreate in full. Shame about some of the nitpicking whingers. No, wait a minute, actually I don't understand why you can't produce about 300 plane types in some 2,000 variants as an add-on for free http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I believe 'cockpit' means 'flyable'? And you will have your priorities.

&lt;cough&gt;
Tempest V

&lt;cough cough&gt;
Tempest V

&lt;COUGH COUGH&gt;
Did I mention Tempest V?

Thanks again and let me know when your on the road.... I'll get off!

klem

geetarman
08-23-2005, 01:10 PM
Thank you so much Oleg for these additional planes!!!

One question. The USAAF P-51D's were also using 150 octane fuel from mid-1944 to war's end in the ETO. Were any thoughts given towards increasing their performance similar to the P-47?

NiKuTa
08-23-2005, 01:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by asgeirr73:
Great News!! and almost all the planes I have missed to (Mosqito, JU-88, Tempest)
good work Oleg http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes Of corse very good work.http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif
Evrybody say: good work, great news, great job - buhahahahaha but
What about FM, DM ??????
When the pitch will work corectly????
When this "sim" will be a real sim but not only a shooter-geme?????

96th_Nightshifter
08-23-2005, 01:19 PM
Thanks Oleg, awesome list mate!

Tempest V!!!! Awesome!

Thanks for the continued support.
Hope the Russian add on makes its way over here asap for us to purchase, afraid that money may be lost through piracy if it doesn't and that would be a waste of all your teams effort.

Good luck with BoB, I'll be buying that game too. Be sure.

Loki-PF
08-23-2005, 01:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Badsight.:
fantastic http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


http://xs43.xs.to/pics/05342/IL10.JPG </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Congrats Badsight!! I'm happy for you! I know you've waited for that Gem for a longgggg time.

I know it's originally only going for Russian CD but heh be opto-mystic http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

A.K.Davis
08-23-2005, 01:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Schmouddle-WT:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by A.K.Davis:
Seriously, threatening to steal something because you can't have it right away is about as low as you can go. I hope you feel utterly ashamed that you posted this in a public forum. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The point of my post is somewhere else. I stress here, that if "Russian Addon" is not sold freely around the world (online store, whatever) guys from West will have it anyway.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Schmouddle-WT:
I talk openly - if a Russian Addon is sold only in Russian territory, I will find out a way how to get it. Actually I have promised other czech folks the very first day "Russian Addon" is available for sale in Kiev, (Ukraine is considered to be a russian market, since I found Pearl Harbor aka PF to be sold in Kiev) one guy from our offspring company will buy a bunch of CDs and ship it to Czech Republic. Here I will pass them to my fellows against the expenses. If this fails, I will try to download it. I REALLY want to buy it. Depends on a publisher if he serves me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, this is threatning. I threaten Oleg I will send a guy from our company to Kiev gamestore and let him buy copies (ORIGINALS, if you want) for my czech buddies, because we are not allowed to buy it here.

Read it once again, AKD and tell me if I do lie in any point I mention. This is a description of current state of things and people here - no more, no less.

And BTW I am not ashamed. I have bought the stuff. Not all here did, so whats the point in your rampage against me? My conscience in this case is bright like sunshine.

And imagine you live in well-developed country, member of EU, but you cannot join paypal, several major online store do not ship to your country, producents neglect the nichy market of it? What would you do? What seems to be piece of cake in your chair, might be a problem for somebody else just 300 km from you.

I hope you feel bad about judging people before knowing the background. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Really?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Schmouddle-WT:
The publishers continue moaning about software piracy. Screw them, it their fault serving software pirates the deal on a silver plate.

...

If this fails, I will try to download it. I REALLY want to buy it. Depends on a publisher if he serves me.

...

However the most probable scenario will be most westeners will just D/L from somewhere instead of buying it. (screwed PF sales anyone?)

...

but we do not love you THAT much just to let pass the opportunity to get it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

...

The message to Ubi (and unfortunately to 1:C too) is simple.

We gonna get it no matter what, you decide how we do it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would bold your bold and wink your wink if I could. It was shameful in the first place, but now trying to deny it is just pathetic.

They really come out of the woodwork when Oleg posts, don't they?

nickdanger3
08-23-2005, 01:38 PM
Thanks Oleg !

Looking forward to the patch.

Keep up the good work.

Platypus_1.JaVA
08-23-2005, 01:38 PM
Now I don't see why people want to install a Russian add-on, with all the Cyrillic letters into their international (english) version. Won't your PC lock up? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Don't get me wrong, the first time I encountered the Pe-2/Pe-3 in Il-2 v 1.0, I wanted to fly it too but, I don't need PF locking up because the Russian add-on is conflicting with my international version of PF(m) Is that strange?

Platypus_1.JaVA
08-23-2005, 01:39 PM
I almost forgot, Thank you Oleg for informing the community with this great news! Give greetings to your wife and kids and drive safely!!

FatBoyHK
08-23-2005, 01:39 PM
Just one question: No SpitXIV ?

carguy_
08-23-2005, 01:48 PM
Heheh
SPitXIV is not ready nor it is almost ready.
heheh

heheheh http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



heheh http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

LeadSpitter_
08-23-2005, 01:49 PM
First off thanks for taking the time to write to us all, and letting us know whats going on.

Second what can we do to persuade ubi/1c that the west is very interested in the russian only addon, the pe3s, ki27s are essential missing ac from the eastern front and for the avg flying tiger scenarios.



I dont see why the russian only ac and maps cant be included in the final patch. We all paid $130 for this series, 30 sturmo 30 fb 30 aep 40 PF and we are still going to buy BOB and its addons when they come out.

I realize now its much cheaper for the games but thats what they cost when released.

Kwiatos
08-23-2005, 01:49 PM
I dont care future/russian/estern/any addon with new planes, trees, bus, V-3 etc. Only thing which is important is actually FM/DM which still have too many bugs. Rest is nothing.

Michcich_303
08-23-2005, 02:09 PM
Oleg, have you seen that Spit take off movie from Shockwave`s BoB: Wings of Victory ? It`s here: http://shockwaveproductions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1623

Nice, isn`t it ? FM sure won`t be cutting edge but still seems these guys have done very good job on a very old game engine. Now, all these changes, including engine sounds could have made into FB if not for your / Ubi`s erratic decisions on adding tons of new planes instead of bringing realism to a new level. It`ll be a shame that BoB VoW will make FB/PF look obsolete in many departments (sound for sure). What is holding IL2 series now is the online game.

Also, look at the Wings of Power by Shockwave and compare their FW 190 to FB` counterpart.

Good news is that you have competition now...be that Shockwave or Eagle Dynamics. I`ve already seen many guys from this forum on Shockwave forum and I`m sure I`ll see lots more over the next couple of days after BoB VoW release...

OberUberWurst
08-23-2005, 02:19 PM
D-XXI_DANISH http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Thanks Oleg http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Endy1
08-23-2005, 02:23 PM
Thanks for the update, the list looks real good.

Tvrdi
08-23-2005, 02:24 PM
nice Oleg..a big thanks....pitty no Spit I for pre BoB practicing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

cheers

SeaFireLIV
08-23-2005, 02:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Michcich_303:

Good news is that you have competition now...be that Shockwave or Eagle Dynamics. I`ve already seen many guys from this forum on Shockwave forum and I`m sure I`ll see lots more over the next couple of days after BoB VoW release... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, some of us are on the shockwave forum, and competition IS good, but that does not mean we`ve given up FB. FB still has the rest of the war after BOB PLUS the Eastern Front, Pacific and a magnifivient array of aircraft. Oleg doesn`t need to worry...

Try not to be so bitter, Michcich_303 and be thankful.

LeadSpitter_
08-23-2005, 02:53 PM
The poll thread, russian addon for western market.

So far 821 yes 27 no

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63110913/m/2431072382

Recon_609IAP
08-23-2005, 02:58 PM
What is Shockwave....? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif

Great new Oleg - you continue to do a fantastic job with this sim!

I look forward to flying these new aircraft!

As others said, now what can we do to get these Russian addon aircraft http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

zunzun
08-23-2005, 03:04 PM
Tempest and P47 "Late"

Big Thanks Oleg! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

JadehawkII
08-23-2005, 03:06 PM
OK My turn! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

This is good news as most already know. I for one cannot wait for the Do-335 but would have been nice for the Spitfire XIV to be included. Perhaps sometime in the future? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Thanks to Oleg and Co. for such a wonderful game! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Punkfriday
08-23-2005, 03:06 PM
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!
all is much appreciated!

Tater-SW-
08-23-2005, 03:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
The poll thread, russian addon for western market.

So far 821 yes 27 no

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63110913/m/2431072382 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

At $20 a pop that's $16,420 bucks. $41k if it were $50. Not very much scratch... OTOH, if only 1% of all players responded to that poll we'd be talking some real, money.

tater

Schmouddle-WT
08-23-2005, 03:14 PM
AKD, I tried to discuss with you and it failed becuse you are not able to discuss things in a polite manner.

Pathetic? Your quotes ripped out of text with coherent meaning are pathetic. Your one word replies aiming to put down the other are pathetic. Your ignoring of questions raised by the other is pathetic.

I am off this.

Fortunately, some guys here got the point and expressed the worry that if Russian addon will not be released for western market most of guys will have it anyway, mostly by illegal means.

It is still time for Oleg to manage to sell it to West. If not, do not blame me or anybody else.

If the Russian Addon is not distributed to the western markets, it is a failure of division of sales between Ubi and 1:C. The lost sales are however solely on 1:C account.

I dont want it. I want to buy it.

JaVA_Zeehond
08-23-2005, 03:18 PM
This support keeps to amase me! Thx a lot Oleg and crew!!

biggs222
08-23-2005, 03:23 PM
Oleg,

coudl you please tell us the status of the Spitfire mkXIV?

can we expect to see in it any other upcoming patches?

also what about giving us the +25lb boost mkIX for late '44?

joeap
08-23-2005, 03:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NiKuTa:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Michcich_303:

Good news is that you have competition now...be that Shockwave or Eagle Dynamics. I`ve already seen many guys from this forum on Shockwave forum and I`m sure I`ll see lots more over the next couple of days after BoB VoW release... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, some of us are on the shockwave forum, and competition IS good, but that does not mean we`ve given up FB. FB still has the rest of the war after BOB PLUS the Eastern Front, Pacific and a magnifivient array of aircraft. Oleg doesn`t need to worry...

Try not to be so bitter, Michcich_303 and be thankful. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Be thankfull ????? Tell me why, becouse there will be a new planes ?????? No i dont think so.
Always new patch or addon dont correct a bags http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif but make a new one. Evry new patch is worst them onther and PF is now like shooter-game not a sim http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good god go play a "sim" then.

tigertoo
08-23-2005, 03:39 PM
Never got a reply on the following,so just try it here.
It's about an possible immersive ammelioration to the game as such, giving each Section Leader the possibility to navigate using the RMI (American and German planes)
Of course this has nothing to do with my ultimate love for this fantastic game.It gave me already 2 1/2 years a real and fabulous feeling of "flying".All my support goes to Oleg and his team, today it is for this new FREE(!) addon, yesterday it was for what we have today, and tomorrow it will be for the BoB.
A BIG salute to all of you!!!
Tigertooo
http://tangmerepilots.co.uk/index.php?page=public



The following i posted some days ago:
...."This is the sutuation:FMB and a mission with 2 section of 4 American planes each,and 10 waypoints.No enemy's.
1)Off-line: i take plane N?1(lead first section) and press:Red section&gt;Navigation&gt;next waypoint.
The Direction Finder of my Radio Magnetic compass turns to the direction of the next waypoint.
2)off-line:i take plane N?5 (lead second section)and press:White section&gt;Navigation&gt;next waypoint.
The Direction Finder of my Radio Magnetic compass turns to the direction of the next waypoint

Now it's coming:if ONLINE and i Host the game:
I take N?1 plane and my friend takes N?5 plane. For me the RMI works fine when pressing my command but if my friend presses: White section&gt;navigation&gt;next waypoint: HIS Direction Finder does not move at all to the next waypoint!!
If he takes N?1 plane and i take N?5: his direction finder does not work eighter and mine still does.

Is this normal,or a bug,or ???????,............"

It seems now, thanks to a reaction of CoB_Spectre, the RMI works on-line only IF groups are made of "squadron"
This way the #1 leader sees the changes on his RMI when ordering to go to the next waypoint.

Is there knowledge that this could change in further patches or in BoB , as imho,it would be very more immersive if EACH Flight Leader IN THE SAME squadron,could guide the navigation using the RMI.
(It would be even better if each pilot could use his RMI online, but i realise this could be too much asked of course)
Thanks for your time

Tigertooo
Tangmere Pilots

Chuck_Older
08-23-2005, 03:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NiKuTa: Evry new patch is worst them onther and PF is now like shooter-game not a sim http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is 100% personal opinion presented as if it were inarguable fact

You will find that around here, particularly on this forum, statements like yours need sound, solid fact to give them any credence. "Feelings" "Megrims" "Vapors" "Guesses" and worst of all "Opinions" need to be backed up with fact and hard data, not emotion. Often real WWII pilot's notes or stories are also added to give an argument weight. Your argument is completely without any merit.

Until you can back up broad statements like those you have just made, you will never be taken seriously

What your post tells me is that you're having some kind of trouble with the sim, and now you don't like it

There are forums available to get you the help or tips you need to enjoy the sim.

Arm_slinger
08-23-2005, 03:53 PM
Oleg, could you give us any information on why the Spitfire Mk14 is not included? How far is it from completion?

Many thanks and all the best http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Grey_Mouser67
08-23-2005, 04:14 PM
Thanks Oleg...Tempest/Skeeter and now P-47Hot rod!

I doubt Oleg makes the decisions as to whether the Russian add on...in fact, i'm thinking he is in our camp on this but has to convince management and/or distribution that it will be worth their while to do so...no company will pass up a money making opportunity, but there is risk...I hope he ties in some Western Aircraft to make it all a good package and sell both!

The best news of all, as far as I'm concerned is the continued developement of FB...it has life left in it and it will take a bit for BoB to catch up to it in terms of volume of fun...just wait till BoBWOV is out...many will tire of the theatre and lack of planes, no multiplay and no Mission builder very quickly!

One last question Oleg...it is on the minds of millions and inquiring minds have to know...

How much money do we need to hand you in order to get a Spitfire Mk XIV in the game????

Might as well throw in a superboosted D Mustang, Mk IX spitfire and a B-25 gunship too!

Your fanbase is waiting...Spit Mk XIV pretty please...I know we're all spoiled but I learned you wont get what you don't ask for!

Bearcat99
08-23-2005, 04:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
First off thanks for taking the time to write to us all, and letting us know whats going on.

Second what can we do to persuade ubi/1c that the west is very interested in the russian only addon, the pe3s, ki27s are essential missing ac from the eastern front and for the avg flying tiger scenarios.



I dont see why the russian only ac and maps cant be included in the final patch. We all paid $130 for this series, 30 sturmo 30 fb 30 aep 40 PF and we are still going to buy BOB and its addons when they come out.

I realize now its much cheaper for the games but thats what they cost when released. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good points Leadspitter..... most ogf the die hards have been faithful followers of this series from the first time we set eyes on IL2 and many of us bought the followups within the first week of thier release. It seems to make no sense that we cant get the Russian add on right off unless it is an issue that is bigger than 1C... like maybe copyrights or some kind of trade issue.....

Bearcat99
08-23-2005, 04:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tater-SW-:
Yeah, they could SELL it as a download. No marketing costs whatsoever since the only people that could use it are people who have already bought it. No packaging costs, just bandwidth.

tater </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not only that by selling it as a download they could reduce the price to reflect the lack of packaging shipping distribution etc.

shinden1974
08-23-2005, 04:20 PM
thanks for everything!

Considering what's been posted the last few months about future support for FB/AEP/PF, it's nice to see you are at least considering continuing limited support from other teams. Still if you decide not to, we've already gotten more than this sim was ever really planned to be.

I'm most excited about the N1K2-J,J2M3/5 and the Italian planes which really fall under the 'forgotten' category in flight sims. Although I'm aware we probably won't recieve all these planes or really even a large number of them, it's good to see them up for consideration. This thing has been an addiction, and if anything, the screaming, insulting posts are just further proof; no one blows their top over garbage.

I'm optimistic about the russian add-ons coming to the rest of the world. I hope your making some headway in that direction. Also looking forward to BOB, and hopefully for us PacWar fans, a return to the pacific. Thanks again.

Labienus
08-23-2005, 04:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NiKuTa: Evry new patch is worst them onther and PF is now like shooter-game not a sim http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is 100% personal opinion presented as if it were inarguable fact

You will find that around here, particularly on this forum, statements like yours need sound, solid fact to give them any credence. "Feelings" "Megrims" "Vapors" "Guesses" and worst of all "Opinions" need to be backed up with fact and hard data, not emotion. Often real WWII pilot's notes or stories are also added to give an argument weight. Your argument is completely without any merit.

Until you can back up broad statements like those you have just made, you will never be taken seriously

What your post tells me is that you're having some kind of trouble with the sim, and now you don't like it

There are forums available to get you the help or tips you need to enjoy the sim. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yup... "flying is easy" - fact, hard data and no emotions. This is enough for me to believe http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

shinden1974
08-23-2005, 04:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:

Good points Leadspitter..... most ogf the die hards have been faithful followers of this series from the first time we set eyes on IL2 and many of us bought the followups within the first week of thier release. It seems to make no sense that we cant get the Russian add on right off unless it is an issue that is bigger than 1C... like maybe copyrights or some kind of trade issue..... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unfortunately I didn't see the light until I spotted PF at a wal-mart...now I'm itching to just throw money at them for nothing...

I think it's going to happen and it's only a matter of sooner or later, as in will we get it this year? or will we see it as part of a complete Il2 package much later...

Bearcat99
08-23-2005, 04:38 PM
Hey there were a LOT of folks who wouldnt be here if it werent for PF. PF may not be as all inclusive as some might like.... including me... but it does allow us to fly in the Pacific, land on carriers, fly over vast stretches of water and get close to the PTO in a way that just wasnt possible in any other sim..... and once PF brought em in it was just a matter of time till they got sucked into the whole 9. This series is the best thing to happen to WW2 flight sims since joysticks..... warts and all... and there is nothing that even comes close to it. With this series we can get decent chunks of every theater in WW2.... not whole complete slices maybe... but decent enough chunks to have fun and get a good sized dose of the flavor. Id love to see another desert map... a bigger one..... with trees on one side........ and ocean and desert on the other...... maybe an island off to the side......

carguy_
08-23-2005, 04:46 PM
Labienus,Nikuta,VonIzabelin and others.

You are making a joke of yourselves.Think what can be done effectively about this.

SeaFireLIV
08-23-2005, 05:00 PM
Some people get so uptight when you say they should be `Thankful`. This is the typical attitude of the young kids these days... and their undoing. They don`t appreciate what they`ve got until it`s gone. (Bit like my ex-wife http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif ).

Back on Topic, I am curious as well as to WHY we cannot have the Russian Add-on either?

jamesdietz
08-23-2005, 05:02 PM
"Ven ist der beeger patch mitt allen diesem toys ?"

Chuck_Older
08-23-2005, 05:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
Some people get so uptight when you say they should be `Thankful`. This is the typical attitude of the young kids these days... and their undoing. They don`t appreciate what they`ve got until it`s gone. (Bit like my ex-wife http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif ).

Back on Topic, I am curious as well as to WHY we cannot have the Russian Add-on either? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My bet is Ubisoft's marketting and distributing rules

Call_me_Kanno
08-23-2005, 05:29 PM
J2M3 flyable, good deal. This is a high altitude bomber interceptor and not a dog fighter like the earlier IJA planes. Looking forward to stopping some high flying B-29's. Thank you Mr. Maddox.

Tater-SW-
08-23-2005, 05:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Grey_Mouser67:
Might as well throw in a superboosted D Mustang, Mk IX spitfire and a B-25 gunship too! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, the best B-25 gunships to model would be:

a B-25D field mod (C external, no belly turret, sidepack guns, and 4 guns in the nose with the glass painted over (or sheet metal replacing panes).

or a B-25J. Either the field-mod version with 4 MGs added to the nose (delete the bombadier, fix the flex gun forward, and paint over the glass). The alternative would be the factory kit gun nose (8x50 cal in 2 columns).

The B-25H was a dog, and roundly hated. The 75mm was frequently removed and 2x50 pushed through the hole instead. As soon as Js became available Hs were dumped as quickly as they could be replaced (some units went back to Gs if they could get them because they were superior to the H).

As for reducing the price of a DL version, I say let them charge the same and Oleg et al can pocket the difference.

tater

DONB3397
08-23-2005, 05:53 PM
These planes give this sim presence in every theater, I think, and all the countries. combatants. I don't think any other sim offers anything like that.

Would it be ungrateful to suggest one or two MTO maps, e.g. Corsica, or western and northern Italy?

In the meantime, thanks for these.

JunkoIfurita
08-23-2005, 06:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Not only that by selling it as a download they could reduce the price to reflect the lack of packaging shipping distribution etc. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not only would it be cheaper, but it would be simple - after all, a lot of commercial mission-pack authors could already tell you about Matrix games. It's a pretty decent, secure online service for purchasing and downloading games. They can send hard copies out, too.

Maddox Games could probably strike a decent enough deal with Matrix Games - but I'm guessing here that the problem here is UbiSoft.

UbiSoft are a decent company - after all, if it weren't for their initial risk we'd never be playing any of the IL-2 Sturmovik series at all. But they're *****-footing around - they don't want to release extra content at their own expense, but they're entirely uninterested in releasing Maddox Games from their contractual obligation to use UbiSoft as sole distributor.

It's a messy business: I certainly wish that UbiRazz or someone from UbiSoft who is 'in the know' could give us some sort of idea of what the situation is over in the Ubi camp.

----

JunkoIfurita
08-23-2005, 06:17 PM
After all, if it weren't for the legal obligations for UbiSoft - I'm sure that Maddox Games could run a 'pre-order' fund (via paypal or some more official method) to test the waters. I'm pretty sure that a surprising number of people would outlay $20 against the strong chance that they'd contribute to the Russian Add-On being made available to the West.

After all, if the add-on makes it, they've already paid for half their game.

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SnailRunner
08-23-2005, 06:31 PM
D-XXI_DANISH cooool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Philipscdrw
08-23-2005, 07:02 PM
Hmmm...

I think what we need to do, is find a member of the community who is prepared to work for Ubi as our undercover spy. Let him (or her) work in Marketing and leak memos to us, brief us on the methods and deliberations of large software companies! I would volunteer, but I'm a mechanical engineering undergrad, unsuited to work in software at this present time.

[/hallucination]
[/delirium]

С¿?с¸бо žлµ³! I am starting to learn a little bit of Russian, partly so I can purchase the Russian versions of the Il-2 series and the Russian-only add-on.

It's good to see Oleg on the forums again, like the 'good old days' that I can barely remember. And it's not hard to see why he might want to stay away too...

I'd be happy if 25% of that list makes it to my computer in the next year. (And I'd be exponentially more happy with more aircraft completed!) As long as the Tempest V, Mosquito and Ju-88 make up that 25%! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

GT182
08-23-2005, 07:10 PM
Great news Oleg, and thanks. ~S!~

MAILMAN------
08-23-2005, 07:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by shinden1974:
I'm most excited about the N1K2-J,J2M3/5 and the Italian planes which really fall under the 'forgotten' category in flight sims. . </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The N1K2-J is and has been in several flight simulators so it is hardly the "forgotten" plane. It's main wing was lowered to the bottom of the fuselage and landing gear was shorter than its predecessor the N1K1-J. The N1K1-J which had a mid fuselage main wing and had longer landing gear was used in the Phillipines and later. More N1K1-J saw combat than the N1K2-J which fought exclusively in home defense over Mainland Japan. I would say that the N1K1-J is the more "forgotten" of the two. My personal "forgotten" plane in this series is the F4U-4. More F4U-4 (.50 cal) & F4U-4B (20mm)were produced and saw combat in PTO than the F4U-1C (20mm). British Corsair Ace Ronnie Hay landed at a US field and was shocked to see a field full of brand new F4U-4's and jokingly asked to trade his British Corsair for one of them. If this plane was in the game the KI-84 wouldn't seem so invincible in performance in the PF arenas IMHO.

WereSnowleopard
08-23-2005, 07:33 PM
I noticed no one said how much excite about have flyable Do-335A. Let's three cheer for Do-335 MOD.


Great to have flyable Ki-27 for be part of flying tiger fight. Again as great to have more flyable Italian planes. Last thing I wish have one to be flyable is Hs-129. I do understand how diffuclt to find cockpit for it. Thank you for that news.

Cheer
Snowleopard

shinden1974
08-23-2005, 07:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MAILMAN------:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by shinden1974:
I'm most excited about the N1K2-J,J2M3/5 and the Italian planes which really fall under the 'forgotten' category in flight sims. . </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The N1K2-J is and has been in several flight simulators so it is hardly the "forgotten" plane. It's main wing was lowered to the bottom of the fuselage and landing gear was shorter than its predecessor the N1K1-J. The N1K1-J which had a mid fuselage main wing and had longer landing gear was used in the Phillipines and later. More N1K1-J saw combat than the N1K2-J which fought exclusively in home defense over Mainland Japan. I would say that the N1K1-J is the more "forgotten" of the two. My personal "forgotten" plane in this series is the F4U-4. More F4U-4 (.50 cal) & F4U-4B (20mm)were produced and saw combat in PTO than the F4U-1C (20mm). British Corsair Ace Ronnie Hay landed at a US field and was shocked to see a field full of brand new F4U-4's and jokingly asked to trade his British Corsair for one of them. If this plane was in the game the KI-84 wouldn't seem so invincible in performance in the PF arenas IMHO. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

aware. I was referring to the italian planes only, which never even had a theater in any flight sim save 3rd party add-ons. The N1K1-J is invisible nearly everywhere. The J2M3 is forgotten, and the F4U-4 really never got the shot in flight sims it deserves.

Tater-SW-
08-23-2005, 07:57 PM
I would have liked to have seen the Sally, even as AI. A Nick would have been cool as well, and of course the Nate for the CBI. Actually, the plane I miss the most I was expecting before PF came out is the PBY.

Oh, and what would be cooler than a Pete. That is one pretty airplane.

tater

Tooz_69GIAP
08-23-2005, 08:06 PM
Excellent stuff!! Some great aircraft in that list that I will have a lot of fun with!!

shinden1974
08-23-2005, 08:21 PM
If you read olegs post, he says ready and almost ready. So this may not be a final list of the possible planes.

I'm sure they have certain priorities which would cause a massacre here if he let anyone know...but there maybe hope for the spit XIV yet...

Ironman69
08-23-2005, 08:21 PM
Mr. Maddox can you give us some info as to a possible add on of Spitfire mk. 14 flyable?

nakamura_kenji
08-23-2005, 08:22 PM
problem with n1k1-j lack of cockpit sources it very different than n1k2-j i beleive

i look very much forward j2m3, wish could get ki-44 but seem that only in dreams ohwell get an interceptor anyway ^_^

WarWolfe_1
08-23-2005, 08:35 PM
Thanks for the update Oleg.

p1ngu666
08-23-2005, 10:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JunkoIfurita:
After all, if it weren't for the legal obligations for UbiSoft - I'm sure that Maddox Games could run a 'pre-order' fund (via paypal or some more official method) to test the waters. I'm pretty sure that a surprising number of people would outlay $20 against the strong chance that they'd contribute to the Russian Add-On being made available to the West.

After all, if the add-on makes it, they've already paid for half their game.

---- </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

pre-order, with say 5dollars off launch price, priority DL (secure, unshareable dl), also option to have cd mailed to your for extra amount. btw packaging and distribution costs are fairely low per item, 5-10 dollars i expect.

bridge bulider/pontifex is a game i bought online like the above method, so for small scale stuff its fine.

the problem is with ubi i think, oleg wants everyone to fly his sim, if they want to http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

wolfeeater
08-23-2005, 10:33 PM
Hello

Wolfiedog

Oleg_Maddox
08-23-2005, 10:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LEXX_Luthor:
Oleg, wellcome back from summer vacation on Novaya Zemlya island (where the sun shines brighter). http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

What happened to...

MiG-9
MiG-13
Jet Lagg
La-7R

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>[/QUOTE]

Nothing happened.
They all are in development and on the way.
Also La-7R listed in a list that I posted.
I posted just these that are finised completely in 3D and inserted in 3D engine or very close to that stage. Some already flying, some are waiting for programming.

Badsight.
08-23-2005, 11:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Monty_Thrud:
Is there ever likely to be a 25Lbs boost Mk IX Spitfire? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>as long as it doesnt get in the way of me getting that IL-10 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

seriously tho , a 1944 "25lbs" Spitfire Mk9 would be an option worth considering wouldnt it Maddox Games ?

http://xs43.xs.to/pics/05342/IL10.JPG

if the worst comes to the worst & that add-on is released only in the CIS states , im still going to get it

Oleg_Maddox
08-23-2005, 11:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kwiatos:
Hi O. Maddox

I think I and many other PF users are most interesting in correct FM and DM in game and new planes etc are on second place.

I wonder how kind of fixes was done in FM/DM part in 4.02????

4.01 patch bring many new bugs and still have many old bugs which need check and correction.

From my experience the most important bugs are:

- no acceleration stall in planes with slots ( Bf109, Laggs, La, Migs)

1. - wrong stall speed of some planes excpecially Bf 109 series:
- 109 E too high
- 109 G-2 to K-4 - too low stall speed

2. - prop pitch cheat in Bf 109 series which allow impossilble in RL RPM of enginge

3. - trim cheat which allow some planes (109 for example) to make very hard turn at high speed

4. - very strange torque effect in different planes ( some have too big some too small)

5. - DM of some planes: Fw190 and Bf 109 now are too strong on 20mm and 0,50 cal fire

6. - weak 37 mm cannon - now is not possible to destroy tanks in P-39 from cannon and is needed many 37 mm hit to shot down bombers

7. - small FM problems in some planes:
- too slow roll rate and acceleration in Fw190
- too weak high speed handling in Mig3
- too much shake nose in some planes when
firing weapons ( P-51, Spitfire)


At now i dont remeber others bug but i think i put most important things.

I hope 1C and Oleg still care FM/DM of these game which for many hardcore players are the most imoprtant things in these game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

1. It is currently impossible to tune each aircraft for 100% precise. So some differences (+/-) will be present comparing to real. I think it is not only in our sim, but in all.

2. we are thinking about it. The best way simply to remove manual pitch control http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

3. No. Not a cheat.

4. corrected

5. DM in 4.01 had not changes. So the destruction is the same as in the past. Simply programmer forgot to uncheck in code visual effects (fire, etc) during tunings. It is come back in 4.02. But I will repeat DM as it is had not changes - you may kill the plane absolutely the same as in in the past.

6. Was removed AP shells for the air combat. Antill we'll have in the next sim the adjustable belts. I was against of such change, but communtiy was pressed us too much to change the belts to only explosive shells (against fighters).

7. With some of your list I agreee and it was corected.

Tater-SW-
08-23-2005, 11:36 PM
Also, there are problems with level bombers (and medium "strafer" bombers A-20/B-25) not dropping properly when a gattack is placed with no target set.

Parafrag bomb loads will result in bomber dropping parafrags while making a roll. A flight of planes doing this makes many crashes.

tater

SeaFireLIV
08-23-2005, 11:38 PM
Thanx for that news, Oleg! Can we have the AI commands if AI leader is killed and the remaining AI Squad joins up to Human player? Any estimation on release of 4.02? No pressure... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Badsight.
08-23-2005, 11:43 PM
oh WOW http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:
IL-10
Nothing more to show today.

http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/grab0010.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>that is just so awesome

is KEENLY anticipated by many http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Kocur_
08-23-2005, 11:47 PM
Thanks for the update Mr. Oleg.

I have a question too: will MiG-3U still be labelled as "1942" and La-7 3xB-20 as "1944"? I am 100% sure in both cases those planes were produced a year later, that is 1943 for MiG-3U and 1945 for La-7 3xB-20.

Seems to me that more than one person was responsible for preparing historic background for different planes, that is also visible in object viewer (different way of typing numbers for example). Seems to me also, that each of those person used different criteria for labelling planes.

Oleg_Maddox
08-23-2005, 11:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KRISTORF:
Cheers Oleg,

Just one question, do we have a date/timeframe for this please.

(All the 'two week' specialists need not answer) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Date: When ready

Oleg_Maddox
08-23-2005, 11:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LeLv30_RedWing:
Mr Maddox, you mention; "- Changes and tunes in new FM."

Can you say what to expect, or atleast are changes something what will make certain planes totally different to fly?

Oh, and thank you for free add-ons http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nothing totally different. Just some tunes to match more precisely specs.

Oleg_Maddox
08-24-2005, 12:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Schmouddle-WT:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:
It will be incompatible versions. Untill the time when these * planes (maps and objects) will be released for the western language versions that to make all versions compatible.
Biut it may happens not too soon. 1C should sell enough that to cover the expences for these things created. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hallo Oleg,

Keep up the good work!

I know my post will be considered controversial, but here we go:

As a loyal customer of yours, I want Russian Addon. I want to buy it and thus support you and your company in your struggle for the ultimate combat flight simulator. Because of a (supposed) deal between you and your publisher I am refused to do so in my territory.

The world has changed and many publishers (DVDs, Music etc...) did not realised how easy is to obtain a certain thing from whatever place on our ole Earth if one really wants it. Ubi has its own way of product placement and as we have seen they have put products on a global market completely ignoring common sense. As we have seen with previous 1:C games, putting it to American market first means all the Europeans had D/L latest the second day after it has been put on the market (and vice-versa). The game arrives to certain markets (CZ,PL for instance) months after initial release...how many players having it D/L because of inability of publisher will actually buy it? Optimistic 20%??
The publishers continue moaning about software piracy. Screw them, it their fault serving software pirates the deal on a silver plate.

I talk openly - if a Russian Addon is sold only in Russian territory, I will find out a way how to get it. Actually I have promised other czech folks the very first day "Russian Addon" is available for sale in Kiev, (Ukraine is considered to be a russian market, since I found Pearl Harbor aka PF to be sold in Kiev) one guy from our offspring company will buy a bunch of CDs and ship it to Czech Republic. Here I will pass them to my fellows against the expenses. If this fails, I will try to download it. I REALLY want to buy it. Depends on a publisher if he serves me.

So Oleg, you want to sell it, we want to buy it. The link between two sides of the deal will appear sooner or later. However the most probable scenario will be most westeners will just D/L from somewhere instead of buying it. (screwed PF sales anyone?)

We love the work and hopefully willing to pay for the fun - but we do not love you THAT much just to let pass the opportunity to get it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I hope guys from Ubi will wake up and allow the distribution of Russion Adddon in the west.

The message to Ubi (and unfortunately to 1:C too) is simple.

We gonna get it no matter what, you decide how we do it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Our western publisher dislike the idea to publish ordered by 1C to my team add-ons because they afraid that making them we will miss the BoB release. This is partially correct if to look for the history how was produced PF - we was need to remake a lot of things ore completely rework all that was received from third party. We missed time.
However here is another case. These planes(or just cockpits) make "Luthier's" guys, missions makes third party guy that did already two superb own add-ons for russian market (Roads of the War and Road to Okinava) which got highest rating in the magazines and was sold very well in Russia due to really low cost CDs.
As I understand such good but small sales is out of interest for the western market for a big publisher .... Maybe I'm wrong, but I think so...

For us such picture, like 1C do on russian market is good. Becasue in this case the third party get not only just morale satisfaction that they are doing very good things for all users of the sim, but also some commersial satisfaction for them as a prize for their good work.

Ironman69
08-24-2005, 12:06 AM
MR. Maddox..can you give info on possible add on of Spitfire mk 14 flyable please?

Schmouddle-WT
08-24-2005, 12:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:
Our western publisher dislike the idea to publish ordered by 1C to my team add-ons because they afraid that making them we will miss the BoB release. This is partially correct if to look for the history how was produced PF - we was need to remake a lot of things ore completely rework all that was received from third party. We missed time.
However here is another case. These planes(or just cockpits) make "Luthier's" guys, missions makes third party guy that did already two superb own add-ons for russian market (Roads of the War and Road to Okinava) which got highest rating in the magazines and was sold very well in Russia due to really low cost CDs.
As I understand such good but small sales is out of interest for the western market for a big publisher .... Maybe I'm wrong, but I think so...

For us such picture, like 1C do on russian market is good. Becasue in this case the third party get not only just morale satisfaction that they are doing very good things for all users of the sim, but also some commersial satisfaction for them as a prize for their good work. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dear Oleg,

thank you for insight to this case.

I am going to buy "Russian Addon", that is for sure and the poll taken here in ORR suggest that I will not be alone.

Keep up the good work!

Oleg_Maddox
08-24-2005, 12:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Michcich_303:
Oleg, have you seen that Spit take off movie from Shockwave`s BoB: Wings of Victory ? It`s here: http://shockwaveproductions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1623

Nice, isn`t it ? FM sure won`t be cutting edge but still seems these guys have done very good job on a very old game engine. Now, all these changes, including engine sounds could have made into FB if not for your / Ubi`s erratic decisions on adding tons of new planes instead of bringing realism to a new level. It`ll be a shame that BoB VoW will make FB/PF look obsolete in many departments (sound for sure). What is holding IL2 series now is the online game.

Also, look at the Wings of Power by Shockwave and compare their FW 190 to FB` counterpart.

Good news is that you have competition now...be that Shockwave or Eagle Dynamics. I`ve already seen many guys from this forum on Shockwave forum and I`m sure I`ll see lots more over the next couple of days after BoB VoW release... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My opinion: Mouse clicking isn't the main in the sim. FM of FW there in Wings of Power or FM of Ta-183? Sorry...
I don't count them as competitors. Especially for the next sim http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Making greater size textures doesn't means adding more precise into 3D models of original planes and cockpits. You may compare yourself with the blueprints and photos. Our old models of the same type is still more precise even with less amount of polygons and smaller textures...

Making add-ons for MS or using alien 3D and campaign engines, even modified, isn't the same as making own engine and the full other staff. Just think about it. And without online gameplay now the sim would be dead kid in terms of popularity.


I hope you got my point

SeaFireLIV
08-24-2005, 12:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:
. And without online gameplay now the sim would be dead kid in terms of popularity.


I hope you got my point </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Er, don`t quite agree with that, my friend.

Michcich_303
08-24-2005, 12:50 AM
Oleg, just out of business curiosity: aren`t you afraid that releasing the Add-on only in the Russian market while West won`t get it, will split up the online community and eventually frustrate some of your players ?

I`m fairly sure that after the release of BoB VoW from Shockwave, FB will be a dead duck in terms of offline play (campaign never was a strength of your series). What is holding FB community together is online game. Aren`t you then shooting yourself in the foot seriously, releasing add-on in the East only ?

On a separate note - wouldn`t it be worthwile to spend some time on improving things, which would let FB to hold its own after BoB VoW release ? Sounds and clouds seeem to be most urgent issues.

And, last but not least in terms of FM - will anything ever get done to that stoo slow energy loss between best climb and stall speeds ?

And on being "thankful" - I certainly am as IL@ series was my main game for the last 3 years or so but also I`m less and less impressed by tons of new ac in every patch while many crucial things like FM remian unsolved. You recently said you would be releasing new patches to FB in order to keep "customer base" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif loyal and shift it painlessly to BoB when it`s released. I guess if that is to be the case, the "patch strategy" needs to be really rethought.

filiperafaeli
08-24-2005, 12:54 AM
Hello, Oleg,

I would like to congratulate you for the continue and better flight model every time. Congratulations.

About the flight model i just would like to give my opinion in one thing that didnt evolute from the 3.04 to the 4.01.

At low speeds. Pull up and neutralise stick fast. The airplane still go in the way of the fist pull. And the nose dont come back.

You will understand what im saying when doing it in 3.04 and 4.01.

In the airplanes i fly the 3.04 is more accurate, the are light compared with warbirds. But i flew the NA-T6 too and on T-6, on this thing, the 3.04 is more real.

I know its hard to explain with words and my bad english. But i can send some tracks of what im saying if you want.

Thanks
Filipe Rafaeli
filipe@rafaeli.com.br

Michcich_303
08-24-2005, 01:01 AM
Thanks for a reply to my post, Oleg. I am really having high hopes for your BoB, especially as you mentioned "adjustable ammo belts". Anyway, until we get your BoB, I really think something needs to be done to IL2 series that goes beyond adding new ac and cockpits. Perhpas it`s better to invest some more money now to keep your sim`s fans with the series than to regain them from competitive titles later on.

toc03
08-24-2005, 01:02 AM
Thanks Oleg for this update!
please can re-lay has this question:
could you patch devicelink with some
missing command ( like mixture... ) or debug
some other ( like canopy or wing fold ?? )
or it's definitively locked for devicelink ?
again thanks for all!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

FatBoyHK
08-24-2005, 01:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:

5. DM in 4.01 had not changes. So the destruction is the same as in the past. Simply programmer forgot to uncheck in code visual effects (fire, etc) during tunings. It is come back in 4.02. But I will repeat DM as it is had not changes - you may kill the plane absolutely the same as in in the past. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

With all respect, I hope you can check it once again. The community had done some entensive tests on this issue and found various problems in the DM, for example 190 is too strong and P-47 is too weak. There is a high possiblity that it is not just a visual effect issue. I hope you can spend some time on that. People in this community is more than willing to provide testing methods and results.

TheGozr
08-24-2005, 01:05 AM
Why not include the 3.04 clouds with the 4.01 as choices instead of one or the other.
clouds 1 to 9 or 10 why not?


Why LA7R and Yak3R Boosted prototypes? Would better to give us some

Yak-9R Was a tactical or photoreconnaissance version with specialized equipment.

Yak-9MPVO was a night fighter variant equipped with a searchlight and a radio compass.

Or even the

Yak-9PD
A high altitude Yak9 with the M-105PD engine incorporating a two-stage gear driven supercharger and armed with a single 20 mm cannon. Its believed small numbers of this type, did see action against high flying German reconnaissance aircraft late in the war.

Oleg_Maddox
08-24-2005, 01:20 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Michcich_303:
Oleg, just out of business curiosity: aren`t you afraid that releasing the Add-on only in the Russian market while West won`t get it, will split up the online community and eventually frustrate some of your players ?

I`m fairly sure that after the release of BoB VoW from Shockwave, FB will be a dead duck in terms of offline play (campaign never was a strength of your series). What is holding FB community together is online game. Aren`t you then shooting yourself in the foot seriously, releasing add-on in the East only ?

On a separate note - wouldn`t it be worthwile to spend some time on improving things, which would let FB to hold its own after BoB VoW release ? Sounds and clouds seeem to be most urgent issues.

And, last but not least in terms of FM - will anything ever get done to that stoo slow energy loss between best climb and stall speeds ?

And on being "thankful" - I certainly am as IL@ series was my main game for the last 3 years or so but also I`m less and less impressed by tons of new ac in every patch while many crucial things like FM remian unsolved. You recently said you would be releasing new patches to FB in order to keep "customer base" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif loyal and shift it painlessly to BoB when it`s released. I guess if that is to be the case, the "patch strategy" needs to be really rethought. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


First of all I never told that Russian add-on planes and objects/maps we don't plan to release for the west, isn't it. I told that the way for the release isn't clear. But we'll find the way. So I think it is clear once again (I posted it in the past as well)

Rowan's campaign and their BoB itslef: Yes campaing was good as well as in MiG Alley.
But other things was not so good...

Rowan's BoB was released almost the same time as Il-2 Sturmovik. Enough to compare worldwide sales and decision of Impire to close this direction of development...

You are thinking other than my categories.
We try to put in the sim all the best things that we only can, however with some limitations.
The balance of precise, gameplay and other features is a must... Rapidly upgradable construction of the sim engine (from GUI to the graphics and all other modules)

I see many good things in BoB II on Rowan's engine, but I also see very weak things for the market.

Be sure all things that you didn't meet in Il-2 series (IL-2, FB, AEP, PF - ~4,5 years of one sim success on the sim market) you'll meet in BoB series... which also will be upgradable to other theaters, etc...
The model will be like with PF... after BoB you may buy our new next sim, but which also would be possible to install over BoB, etc...
Such a model shows us right way in future and long life of the sim, probably more longer than IL-2 series....

Did you play already BoBII?

Then compare with:

http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/bf109e3_co1.jpg

http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/bf109e3_co2.jpg


http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/bf109e3_co1.jpg

http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/bf109e3_co2.jpg

Rataslaw
08-24-2005, 01:25 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif got it

Oleg_Maddox
08-24-2005, 01:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Michcich_303:
You recently said you would be releasing new patches to FB in order to keep "customer base" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif loyal and shift it painlessly to BoB when it`s released. I guess if that is to be the case, the "patch strategy" needs to be really rethought. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Where I told such things?

Really I would like to escape for a year or more... and only work over new sim...

Most of these things that you see in a list was just promise to third party developers! I really wouldn't make it if it wasn't a promise.

FM and other features... I would like to hold it before we introduced the new one... But beta testers was asking to make it like open world test. You got it...

Strategy in patches and add-ons will be not changes for Il-2 series. Strategy will be changes with the next sim.

csThor
08-24-2005, 01:33 AM
Those 109 cockpits .... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif *BONK ... GNNNNN ... GNNNNN ... GNNNN*

Ironman69
08-24-2005, 01:34 AM
Oleg..those two pics of the 109E for BoB are truly amazing! Any more??!?!?! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Skyraider3D
08-24-2005, 01:36 AM
The "Russian only" stuff is a bit disappointing (we want them toooooo) but I am very happy with the D.XXI being flyable and the Do 335. Let's hope it doesn't get banned straight away like the Zwilling http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif


Just noticed the BOB 109 cockpit shots... *drool* http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Slater_51st
08-24-2005, 01:39 AM
Oh my, those cockpit pics....

There are not enough words in all the languages in the world to describe that! I would pay $50 just to have that cockpit much less the rest of the sim.

This smiley is well deserved:
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von_lundenburg
08-24-2005, 01:53 AM
Truly amazing 109E pit. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif But why in wrong RLM66 color and not in RLM02?

WUAF_Toad
08-24-2005, 01:53 AM
Quick question Oleg.

Can you guys tweak in real time or you have to go through the dreaded tweak -&gt; recompile -&gt; test cycle?

RiesenSchnauzer
08-24-2005, 01:53 AM
I am still not clear on this Oleg. Will the Mosquito and Tempest flyables be released in a pay add on or a free one in the future?

lowfighter
08-24-2005, 02:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tater-SW-:
Also, there are problems with level bombers (and medium "strafer" bombers A-20/B-25) not dropping properly when a gattack is placed with no target set.


tater </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bump to this. It's a 'feature' as old as the game though, very strange it was not cured long time ago http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

csThor
08-24-2005, 02:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">But why in wrong RLM66 color and not in RLM02? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

RLM 66 was the standard cockpit interior colour. RLM 02 was used on the outside. I can look up exact details tonight, but I'm 100% sure that RLM02 was not used as interior colour at all.

Oleg_Maddox
08-24-2005, 02:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by von_lundenburg:
Truly amazing 109E pit. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif But why in wrong RLM66 color and not in RLM02? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think we have right colors... Simply in tools without lighting and selfshading it looks not so good like will be in final in the sim itself. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Michcich_303
08-24-2005, 02:06 AM
Oleg,

Thanks a lot for the "unintended" development update on your BoB http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. Cockpits look just fabulous !!! Keeping my fingers crossed that all other things in BoB, like FM, DM etc. will match this level of realism.

I got your point on IL2 series - there`s no time for IL2 now and you and team are fully devoted to BoB now. I`m ok with that and appreciate the fact that you made it clear to all of us. We now know what to expect as well as we can come to terms with the fact that no dramatic change will happen to FB, especially in terms of FM.

Thanks again for screenshots and Good Luck ! Can`t wait for your BoB release.

LeadSpitter_
08-24-2005, 02:19 AM
I would like to ask you a million questions oleg but I won't.

Just please next time you see Ilya punch him as hard as possible for taking this picture. Thank you

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/leadspitter/Luthier100_0619.jpg

Oleg_Maddox
08-24-2005, 02:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ironman69:
Oleg..those two pics of the 109E for BoB are truly amazing! Any more??!?!?! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Someone like to post videos. I ususally don't make it.

However here is our Spitfire MK I cockpit in mpg format (Note: 41Mb)

Note. It is in Engine, but animation not programmed. It just shows the possible animation of details and how it is done from the precise point of view (such things we try to do for each flyable aircaft cockpit). So when you see pedals working "wrong" this doesn't measn that in real sim they will work the same way. Here just to show movement of separate details which in program will moves as it should http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/SpitfireMKI.mpg

Ironman69
08-24-2005, 02:35 AM
wow oleg ..video is great!