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Maverick3721
08-13-2005, 09:52 PM
I just watched the movie: Memphis Belle. It's about a b-17 and her crew during WWII. Anyone ever seen it?

It's pretty good, i think it's a book too.

Anyways just thot i tell u guys i liked it. I'd say it's worth picking up at ur local video store if they've got it.

Maverick3721
08-13-2005, 09:52 PM
I just watched the movie: Memphis Belle. It's about a b-17 and her crew during WWII. Anyone ever seen it?

It's pretty good, i think it's a book too.

Anyways just thot i tell u guys i liked it. I'd say it's worth picking up at ur local video store if they've got it.

J_Weaver
08-13-2005, 10:06 PM
Yup, I've seen it. If your talking about the one made in 1990, with Matt Modine and Billy Zane. Its a pretty good movie, although it doesn't stitck to the true story of the Memphis Belle.

3.JG51_BigBear
08-13-2005, 10:43 PM
The movie was alright. I went to see the actual plane on Mud Island a few years ago and the condition it was in was a real shame. People had written **** on it and brocken a whole bunch of her windows. Luckily it was removed not too long ago for restoration.

Mud Island smells like **** by the way.

AirborneCoyote
08-13-2005, 11:22 PM
One 'o my favorite movies. Gotta love it, gotta love it.

Xiolablu3
08-14-2005, 12:23 AM
I htought it was pretty good when I saw it years ago, then I watched it again and thought it wasnt too good.

How about a film about a Heinkel or Stuka crew during the BOB or Battle of Russia>>??

Or a German Fighter pilot who goes through the Me109 , FW190, Me262 and the **** he had to go through in the war.

That would make a fantastic film.

Would be really interesting. You could even have Tom Cruise as the lead to keep the girls happy (like top gun? )

ElAurens
08-14-2005, 12:51 AM
The Memphis Belle was moved to be restored under threat of removal by it's owners, the National Museum Of the United States Air Force. If the "Belle" is not properly taken care of and protected, the USAF Museum will exercise it's right of ownership and move the aircraft to Wright Field. The folks at Dayton are very upset about the ill treatment that their most famous, and valuable, aircraft has gotten.

WTE_Ibis
08-14-2005, 01:12 AM
I think there was a black and white movie made for military recruiting or propagander or to raise war bonds, which featured the original in actual combat.Not sure, someone will know.

Enforcer572005
08-14-2005, 01:28 AM
I read in 2 aviation magazines where the USAF has repoed the Belle and its going to Dayton. Im surprised at the condition, as it was in great shape when I saw it, but that was back in 87. It took yrs to be restored in Tenn., so I cant understand how they could let some morons get to it. It will sure be taken care of now.

I wonder if they will put it near "SHoo, shoo baby.

The war time movie is the John Ford documentary whre he flew wiht them on thier 25th and last misn. Its not just propadanda, but is the actual raid, complete wiht the gunners blasting a fighter

I enjoyed the flying scenes in the movie, but it really was a disapointment to me. A french B17 being used in filming was destroyed in a take off accident, wiht no injuries.

danjama
08-14-2005, 01:49 PM
Memphis Belle was THE film that got me into warbirds at the tender age of 7(11 yrs ago now)i love it as much now as i did then. Have it sittin proudly on my shelves in my room. Great story, although age has taught me of its inaccuracys.

Tooz_69GIAP
08-14-2005, 02:06 PM
The air force made a big hooha about the Belle in WWII as the crew were the first to complete a tour of 25 missions.

They made a documentary in 1944 which showed the Belle flying a mission, and then landing and receiving medals from a general, and from King George I think. It's in colour and is around 45 minutes long.

I have it on me hard drive.

9th_Spitin
08-14-2005, 02:14 PM
My 6 yr old loves that movie, he has watched it about 20 times since he was 3.

Xiolablu3
08-14-2005, 04:51 PM
The problem with Memphis Belle is that for us Warbird freaks , Battle Of Britain (from 1960!) absolutely blows it away. (Good afternoon my ar-se, you boche baaaastard, get yer 'ands up!)

Memphis belle has only shots of B17s and some VERY far away 109's and I was primarily wanting to see more planes than bad acting http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Thank god the director made Battle Of Britian when he did. It is going to be a very long time (if ever) before we see a film with real warbirds in like that. The first time I saw it I found it truly amazing that the Director had managed to get all those warbirds in formation and fighting like he did.

All those fantastic shots of Spits,Hurris, 109s and He111's, makes me wanna cry. Memphis Belle just didnt have that effect.

Hope someone uses one of the Warbirds Me262's to make a film. It would be a missed opportunity not too.

Recon_609IAP
08-14-2005, 05:34 PM
I loved that movie.

I always think of that movie when pilots tell me I have too much flak protecting bases in my DF missions http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

wayno7777
08-14-2005, 10:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Ibis:
I think there was a black and white movie made for military recruiting or propagander or to raise war bonds, which featured the original in actual combat.Not sure, someone will know. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Yes, the color version is out on DVD. I have it by alone and on a set called WW2 in Color...

AirborneCoyote
08-14-2005, 11:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
I htought it was pretty good when I saw it years ago, then I watched it again and thought it wasnt too good.

How about a film about a Heinkel or Stuka crew during the BOB or Battle of Russia&gt;&gt;??

Or a German Fighter pilot who goes through the Me109 , FW190, Me262 and the **** he had to go through in the war.

That would make a fantastic film.

Would be really interesting. You could even have Tom Cruise as the lead to keep the girls happy (like top gun? ) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We'd think it'd be interesting.

But the general public wouldn't want to see it.

Chances of it being made are slim. Maybe in Germany.

HotelBushranger
08-15-2005, 04:32 AM
Mmmmmm, I'd say Battle of Britian is the best. Dark Blue World is also great, but I'd rather some more action scenes than love scenes http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Memphis Belle is a good, lay back and watch with a cuppa sorta movie. It's pretty good.

Tvrdi
08-15-2005, 05:31 AM
yes its an old movie..good one as Dark blue world is....I always wanted that Memphis Belle jacket for my winter promenade hehe...

Christos_swc
08-15-2005, 08:05 AM
Well , for educated public like as guys, any air war film is going to suck.
Everything is blown out of proportion and the reality we crave about is thrown out the window.
Pearl Harbour for example was a joke in that respect.
It was not a bad movie from a different angle though.

PS What happened to the crew of the Memphis Belle?

berg417448
08-15-2005, 08:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Christos_swc:


PS What happened to the crew of the Memphis Belle? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


# The pilot of the real Memphis Belle was Robert K Morgan. After reaching the rank of Lt. Col. he lead the first B-29 formation over Tokyo.

# The co-pilot of the real Memphis Belle was James Verinas. Col. Morgan always referred to him as the "other" pilot of the "Belle" since he was such an important part of the crew

# The top turret gunners of the real Memphis Belle were Leviticus "levy" Dillon, Eugene Adkins, and Harold Loch.

# The left waist turret gunner of the real Memphis Belle was Claence "Bill" Winchel. The right waist gunners of the real Memphis Belle were E. Scott Miller and Casimer Nastel.

# The tail gunner of the real Memphis Belle was John Quinlan. He was also awarded 3-kills in the pacific theater after his tour when he was assigned to B-29s

# The Radio Operator of the real Memphis Belle was Robert Hanson

# The real Memphis Belle has been restored and was displayed at Memphis, Tennessee from 1987 to the present. In 2004, it was to be sent to the Air Force Museum outside Dayton, Ohio to be part of its WWII display, but several congressmen from Tennessee put a hold on the move.

# The navigator of the real Memphis Belle was Charles Leighton. From Flint Michigan, he retired as a teacher and counselor. He saved the Belle and more B-17's after identifying false German radio beacons designed to lure unwary B-17s into harms way.

# The bombardier of the real Memphis Belle was Vince Evans. Hollywood writer for Bogart, friend of Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Stewart, June Allyson. Restaurant operator, race car driver. Completed 2nd tour of duty aboard B-29's with Morgan in the Pacific.

# The ball turret gunner of the real Memphis Belle was Cecil Scott. From Altoona, PA. "From down there I could see everything." He fired at a great many German fighters and achieved one "Damaged" credit. Retired from Ford Motor Company after 30 years.

Joe Giambrone was the crew chief of the "Belle". He kept the Belle Flying through six months of combat. Replaced nine engines, both wings, two tails, both main landing gear, and more. From Hulneville, Pennsylvania, he retired as Construction Co. Office Manager."

Grue_
08-15-2005, 09:55 AM
I watched Sally-B do a display a couple of weeks ago (UK's only flying B-17) and was told that any shots in Memphis Belle where a B17 is trailing smoke from it's engines was the Sally-B as it was the only B-17 used in the filming with smoke generators fitted to it's engines.

Monty_Thrud
08-15-2005, 10:40 AM
I have it on DVD...cracking movie http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Christos_swc
08-15-2005, 01:20 PM
Thanks berg417448 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

RichardI
08-15-2005, 04:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
The problem with Memphis Belle is that for us Warbird freaks , Battle Of Britain (from 1960!) absolutely blows it away. (Good afternoon my ar-se, you boche baaaastard, get yer 'ands up!)

Memphis belle has only shots of B17s and some VERY far away 109's and I was primarily wanting to see more planes than bad acting http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Thank god the director made Battle Of Britian when he did. It is going to be a very long time (if ever) before we see a film with real warbirds in like that. The first time I saw it I found it truly amazing that the Director had managed to get all those warbirds in formation and fighting like he did.

All those fantastic shots of Spits,Hurris, 109s and He111's, makes me wanna cry. Memphis Belle just didnt have that effect.

Hope someone uses one of the Warbirds Me262's to make a film. It would be a missed opportunity not too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep, great movie - best I've ever seen. Made in 1969 by the way, not 1960.

Rich http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Xiolablu3
08-17-2005, 12:08 PM
Sorry, Rich, 1969. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I guess I am expecting too much from Memphis belle as it is shown from the point of view of the crew, and is probably pretty realistic from that respect. Whereas Battle Of Britain Chronicles the whole battle from both sides.

However much I enjoyed Memphis Belle, I still thought of it as a bit of a missed opportunity thats all.

fluke39
08-17-2005, 03:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
It is going to be a very long time (if ever) before we see a film with real warbirds in like that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

if i recall correctly its just a shame most(if not all) of the 109s are those spanish built Buchons (Merlin engined) which marrs there appearance somewhat.

i do agree with what u say tho

Xiolablu3
08-17-2005, 04:24 PM
Hi fluke m8 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Nice to see you back on the board!

Yes I know what you mean, but a Buchon is for sure better than no 109 at all. (633 squadron with is crappy looking german planes lol!)

It really didnt bother me at all. I was so excited even when seeing those hurricanes in France at the start!

Plus the first time I saw BOB I didnt know what a buchon 109 was! (I was about 10)

-HH-Dubbo
08-17-2005, 05:10 PM
Battle of Britian had some great aircraft bits and a fantastic collection of WW2 aircraft.

But don't you guys find it kind of um...dry? I didn't really care about a single character in that film although I loved all the aircraft footage.

Hats off to the film makers for what they achieved. It was a great tribute to the people involved in the Battle of Britain, with some excellent aircraft footage. But a great movie? I don't know.....

BTW the "He-111s" were also Merlin engined CASA 2111s

Xiolablu3
08-17-2005, 05:40 PM
I dont mean that its a great movie m8, I mean the Aircraft footage in it is fantastic compared to any other war film.

Battle Of Britain would never win an oscar or anything like that I understand http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. But for aircraft footage I'm just saying that Memphis belle let me down, yet Battle Of Britian from over 20 years before had so much great footage. Memphis Belle got a 'could do better' mark from me.

For us Warbird fanatics, Battle Of Britian is a fantastic film, unless anyone knows of a better film with more ww2 aircraft film? I wish there was one cos I would love to see it.

danjama
08-17-2005, 05:50 PM
i know what idlike to see. A film purely of warbirds dogfighting, i could watch 2 hrs of 109s and spits sluggin it out anyday before id watch some crappy love film with a bit of flying. Even if it was computer generated I.E. Dark Blue etc, id still love it. It just takes me to another world when the action comes on, then its all over so quickly.

Xiolablu3
08-17-2005, 09:11 PM
I know exactly what you mean Dan!

I nearly put in my last post that I wouldnt mind if the film was CGI, as long as it was well done.

The CGI BOB scenes in Pearl Harbour were the best bits of the film by far and surely they can do much better nowadays!

Its about time we had a good Hollywood warbirds film! Soon graphics will be totally photorealistic anyway (15 years or so) and we will have Olegs latest game to watch http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif As long as people on this forum dont piss him off so much that he stops making WW2 sims http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

WTE_DuStA
08-18-2005, 02:59 AM
if you guys want realism then watch sky captain http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

WTE_Ibis
08-18-2005, 03:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_DuStA:
if you guys want realism then watch sky captain http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Wot???

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. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Cheers Dusta.

danjama
08-19-2005, 02:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The CGI BOB scenes in Pearl Harbour were the best bits </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

SOOOOOOO TRUE, i can watch the BofB bits time and time again even with Ben afflecks annoying voice squealing in the background lol