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Heliopause
08-01-2010, 06:30 AM
Hello all,
I visited the museum in Linköping during my holiday and thought i'd share some pics with you. Enjoy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8337.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8343.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8340.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8348.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8351.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8357.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8366.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8394.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8386.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8376.jpg

Heliopause
08-01-2010, 06:30 AM
Hello all,
I visited the museum in Linköping during my holiday and thought i'd share some pics with you. Enjoy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8337.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8343.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8340.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8348.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8351.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8357.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8366.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8394.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8386.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8376.jpg

Choctaw111
08-01-2010, 07:13 AM
Wow!
Great photos. Thanks.
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the pusher?

Heliopause
08-01-2010, 07:25 AM
Hi Choctaw,
It's a home-grown product http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif SAAB J21 (http://www.edcoatescollection.com/ac6/SAAB%20J21A.html)

Mr_Zooly
08-01-2010, 10:23 AM
Gotta love the Tunnan http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Low_Flyer_MkIX
08-01-2010, 11:59 AM
Neat! Thanks for sharing. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

BillyTheKid_22
08-01-2010, 12:34 PM
Wow!! Coolest!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

p-11.cAce
08-02-2010, 07:08 AM
Great photos! The thing that really struck me is that you can have the aircraft in the museum without barricades and they look immaculate. If you tried that here in the US they would be covered in gum, scratches, graffiti, and torn to pieces in a month http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

erco415
08-02-2010, 10:58 AM
Not neccessarily, P11, the Naval Air Museum in Pensacola Florida is mostly free of barricades, and they don't have the troubles you describe. Naval Air, for my money, is the best aviation museum in the US, partly for this reason. Some time ago, their curator of collections was quoted as saying they'd rather have to touch up the planes now and then instead of keeping the kids away from them, but from what I've seen, that's not been much of a problem.

p-11.cAce
08-02-2010, 11:15 AM
A sad example of many:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
The Smithsonian acquired its Jenny in 1918, only days after the Armistice ending World War I. The airplane was re-covered in the 1920s, and remains completely original from that time. The Museum’s Jenny is one of the true jewels of the collection. When the opportunity to put it on display in the Mall museum presented itself with the building of the new commercial aviation exhibition, America by Air, a few years ago, I was delighted to make it available to the curator of the new gallery. When the exhibition opened in 2007, it was a great success and the Jenny looked fabulous on its perch, drawing visitors toward America by Air. A museum favorite finally was center stage for all to enjoy. Sadly, last week, our beautiful Curtiss Jenny had to be removed from America by Air. Being completely original with fabric more than 80 years old, the Jenny is one of the most fragile aircraft in the Museum’s collection. Even a gentle bump can puncture or split the fabric covering. Mounted on stands displaying it out of arm’s reach from the floor of the gallery, we thought our treasured Jenny would be safe and sound. What we didn’t anticipate was the “attack” from the air, from the second floor balcony above. It seems disrespectful souls had taken to using the Jenny for target practice with everything from coins to hard candy. As a result, the airplane now has more than a dozen holes in it from objects dropped or thrown from above. The situation had gotten bad enough that the aircraft had to be removed from display. We were facing a “death by a thousand cuts” situation. It pains me to have to take such an historic aircraft off display, and deny our visitors to America by Air the chance to see this beautiful example of this true classic. But as the old saying goes, sometimes a few ruin it for the majority. To preserve the Jenny, it had to be taken out of harm’s way. It will be relocated to the Udvar-Hazy Center and placed in a more secure setting. So visitors will still be able to see it. Just no longer in the rich context and attractive setting of the America by Air gallery. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Saving Jenny (http://blog.nasm.si.edu/2009/11/06/saving-jenny/)

erco415
08-02-2010, 03:28 PM
Great pics, Helio!

Shame about the Jenny, P11- where were the parents? I've been to more than one air museum that was barricade-free, and I've never seen anything like that.

BRASSTURTLE
08-03-2010, 03:52 PM
That Seversky is out of this world. I had never even heard of a PR version. Great pics
A true shame about the Jenny.

Why is it that most aircraft museums have such terrible lighting? For dramatic effect?

Heliopause
08-04-2010, 04:49 AM
Thanks guys. Lighting is not so good in museums most of the time (they're afraid of direct sunlight?)
I didn't bring my tripod so I had to take these pics using a steady hand.

The Swedisch Airforce Museum reopened last june and most planes where behind a rope to keep the enthousiasts at bay. Some though didn't have a rope at all. Shame about that Jenny, for some people/children it's just another airplane I guess....

Here a few extra pics to cheer us up
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8378.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8352.jpg

Ju 86K
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8377.jpg

Saab J21R with jet engine
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8400.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8396.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8388.jpg

sveper
08-08-2010, 03:21 AM
~S~ Nice pics Heli. Well done in poor light with no tripod.


Swep

PhantomKira
08-08-2010, 08:34 AM
Amazing that they were able to keep aircraft from so many different nations operating at the same time.

Is the Finnish Gladiator visiting?

Bremspropeller
08-08-2010, 09:02 AM
No pic of a Draken? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

mortoma
08-10-2010, 08:26 PM
Anyone care to identify the aircraft? I recognize a few of them, the Gladiator being one, of course. But most of them are unfamiliar to me.

Heliopause
08-11-2010, 09:34 AM
Mortoma I made a list (from top to bottom):
J-29 Tunnan
Spit
Catalina
Brequet
Phoenix (Austrian design)
Gladiator
Seversky P-35
SAAB 21
J22 (swedish but not a SAAB design)
Fiat Cr 42
Regianne 2000
Fokker C.V
Ju 86K
SAAB 21R
SAAB B 18
Caproni 313 (I believe this one is a replica)

Bremspropeller: this is the only thing close to a Draken I took a picture of: a Viggen http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/IMG_8341.jpg

PhantomKira
08-11-2010, 09:39 AM
No guarentees, mortoma, but I'll give it a shot...

Here's the Link (http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Jakt/IndexJakt.htm)

1. Perhaps the J29 (http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Jakt/118J29.htm)? I think it's a domestic model.

2. British Spitfire. With five blades, this is likely a Griffon engined Spitfire. Probably a Mk XIV. The chin scoop is correct, but the lack of cannon has me confused.

3. American PBY Catalina patrol bomber.

4. Bregeut U 1 (B 1) (http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Flygkomp/002b1/02_B1.htm) judging by the tail shape.

5. J 1 Phonix D.III (http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Jakt/101J1.htm) with the round tail and three exhaust stacks.

6. British Gloster Gladiator. 165 were exported, Sweden was one of the customers.

7. Seversky EP-1 (http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Jakt/109J9.htm). American. Essentially the Seversky P-35, precursor to the P-47 Thunderbolt.

8. Saab J-21 (http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Jakt/112j21/112J21.htm). Domestic.

9. J 22 (http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Jakt/113J22.htm). Domestic.

10. Fiat C.R. 42 (http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Jakt/110j11/110J11.htm). Italian. Recognizable due to the differing sizes of the wings and the give away wheel pants. Maneuverable as heck.

The neutrals sure flew a hodgepodge group, didn't they!