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Kaleun1961
06-19-2007, 05:34 PM
Saw this on another site. German frigates collide with each other.

Scheisse! (http://www.videosift.com/video/Navy-Boats-Collide-At-Full-Speed)

Kaleun1961
06-19-2007, 05:34 PM
Saw this on another site. German frigates collide with each other.

Scheisse! (http://www.videosift.com/video/Navy-Boats-Collide-At-Full-Speed)

Goose_Green
06-19-2007, 05:43 PM
Nasty! I'm sure heads rolled after they all got back to port http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Foehammer-1
06-19-2007, 08:06 PM
Oooh dear! Were they trying to do some kind on maeuver that failed meserbaly? Or was the captain and/or helmsman of the ship in the middle drunk?

bf2player2006
06-19-2007, 08:31 PM
nice http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

pretty awful but funny http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

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GoldenEagle8
06-19-2007, 09:16 PM
OH SNAP!

Starforce3
06-20-2007, 01:15 AM
well atleast they didn't capsize or sink.

Celeon999
06-20-2007, 02:08 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif

Ehhhm......this ehhhmm...was planned.... ehhhmm.....no...not really... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Luckily these are no frigates but small Minesweepers.

Thats indeed Scheisse http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

The official story is that this was an accident that happened during training but it looks more like they fooled around with that frigate.

The Minesweeper was homebound and its the traditonal way of saying goodbye to cross the wake of another ship as close as possible.

Thats why you can see that sailor on the helipad waving his hand.

Obviously, it was a result of the captain being over-confident and the other boat's captain being totally surprised about the manouver. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif

I can imagine the scenery :

Captain A : http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif "Lets go !"

Captain B : http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif "What the....?"


It has also something good : The Minesweeper that was rammed was not supposed to go home but has to now as it recieved a nice hole in its hull. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Their replacement has left Germany a week ago.

Maybe somebody will now get some completely new Minesweepers ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

And somebody will get a fully new deployment to the east front http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Here you can see the wooden hulls which Minesweepers need to not trigger magnetic mines.


http://www.rp-online.de/layout/fotos/400x316/HBxWkoCw.jpg
http://i9.tinypic.com/4t70aw9.jpg
http://i5.tinypic.com/4qqe89e.jpg
http://i2.tinypic.com/4t7kv40.jpg
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GerritJ9
06-20-2007, 02:46 AM
Could be worse, like two battleships colliding and one sinking- ask the Royal Navy about that one............http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Goose_Green
06-20-2007, 03:01 AM
And there was the one about the Royal Navy Frigate running aground somewhere near Australia..... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Celeon999
06-20-2007, 03:25 AM
Here is the collision video in a bigger screen on google-video.


Perspective of the Minesweeper (http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-1392451971362517192&hl=de)

From the frigate's Helipad (http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=6337378299240953474&hl=de)


Sounds like that familiar SH-III collision "CLONG !!!" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif


"Zhe britischers haf zabotajed oua rudda !" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Messervy
06-20-2007, 03:32 AM
Socko lives!
I'm sure the minesweeper was allready one 1st officer short when that happened. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

danurve
06-20-2007, 07:10 AM
That would have been a rude awakening below deck http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Celeon999
06-20-2007, 11:51 AM
Yes thats Socko's style. Ramming that useless boat full of nancy boys. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

There is only one way to clear mines....with a flak gun http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> That would have been a rude awakening below deck Eek </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Nothing makes you more aware than waking up with a ship's bow heading directly at your face http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

K_Freddie
06-20-2007, 12:25 PM
Our ZA navy did the honours when one of our old destroyer class boats cut across a larger supply ship and didn't make it. 16 seamen died and the destroyer sank.

I must check up on exact details
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Hoatee
06-20-2007, 01:25 PM
I remember that one Freddie - the supply ship was the SAS Tafelberg and the other maybe the SAS Steyn (I'm not sure about the name anymore) but she was an ex-RN Leander class frigate. Tragic.

GerritJ9
06-20-2007, 03:55 PM
The RN lost a battleship (the fleet flagship, no less) when exercising in the Eastern Mediterranean. The fleet was steaming in two parallel columns when the fleet's CinC ordered the two columns to reverse couse by turning INWARDS rather than outwards. Although it was clear that there was no room to safely carry out such a manoeuvre, nobody questioned the order and as a result HMS Camperdown rammed HMS Victoria, which sank with heavy loss of life, including the Admiral.

Celeon999
06-21-2007, 02:37 AM
Human failure will always be something that will cause such accidents http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Luckily nobody was hurt in this Minesweeper collision.

Except some peoples careers who will surely recieve a setback. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


It seems that these old minesweepers will just get a overhaul than a replacement.

Today is a lucky day for the german navy. The money for four new frigates of a total new class has been approved. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif (2,2 billion euros)



They will be the second biggest ship class in service with the german navy and will replace the aging Bremen class frigates.

The F125 class (no name yet) so far only exists as computer models and it was uncertain if the money for them would be approved at all. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

http://www.marine.de/02DB070000000001/CurrentBaseLink/W26MQACS733INFODE/$FILE/f125_640.jpg

Whats new on these frigates is the small amount of crew they will need. Only about 120 men while other ships of its size usally have 250 men.

Its design focuses on peacekeeping roles which means that it will feature enhanced land attack capabilities and non-lethal weapon systems.

They will also use the new NH-90 helicopters in its naval version to replace the Sea-Lynx

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/26/Aust_MRH-90.jpg



Here is the list of equipment and weapons (this is the planned layout, many things are just based on assumptions as this list does not represent the final layout of the ships that will enter service no sooner than 2013) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Celeon heard rumors about stealth cruise missiles http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif


* Length: 150m
* Beam: 18 m
* Draft: 5 m
* Displacement: around 6000t
* Propulsion: CODLAG
o 1 20MW gas turbine
o 2 4.7MW electric motors
o 4 2.9MW diesel generators
o 3 gearboxes: 2 for each shaft and one to crossconnect the gasturbines to them.
o 2 shafts, driving controllable pitch propellers
o Speed: 20kts on diesel only, 26"27kts max.
o Range: 4000nm
o 1 1MW bow thruster
* Sensors:
o 1 Phased array radar
o 2(?) navigation radars
o IFF mode S
o Sonar
o Laser warning
o FL1800S ESM suite
* Communications: Link 11, Link 16, Link 22
* Countermeasures:
o 4 Decoy launchers
o ECM
* Armament:
o 8 anti-ship missiles, either RGM-84 Harpoon or RBS 15 Mk4
o 2 RAM surface-to-air missile launcher/CIWS, 21 cells each
o 1 127 mm lightweight Otobreda naval gun
o 4 27 mm MLG 27 autocannon
o 5 12.7 mm Hitrole-NT remote-controlled machine gun turrets
o 2 12.7 mm heavy machine guns (manually controlled)
o Water cannons
* Other equipment:
o 2 search lights
o Submarine ROVs
o 4 11 m dinghies, over 40kts fast
o Space for two 6.1 m container
* Hangar facility: 2 MH-90 helicopters
* Complement: 160 (including 50 KSK/commando)


EDIT :

Now they posted a more up-to-date 3d-model http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
http://www.marine.de/02DB070000000001/CurrentBaseLink/W274DDR8280INFODE/$FILE/F125%20Standard%20Bild.640.jpg

Goose_Green
06-21-2007, 07:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GerritJ9:
The RN lost a battleship (the fleet flagship, no less) when exercising in the Eastern Mediterranean. The fleet was steaming in two parallel columns when the fleet's CinC ordered the two columns to reverse couse by turning INWARDS rather than outwards. Although it was clear that there was no room to safely carry out such a manoeuvre, nobody questioned the order and as a result HMS Camperdown rammed HMS Victoria, which sank with heavy loss of life, including the Admiral. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Here is the Wikipedia account of that collision (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Victoria_%281887%29)