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shahram177
09-10-2007, 02:41 PM
Ok so you log on to a server and start your flight your in mid flight and see XXXXX at your low 12 heading towards you. You flip inverted and go after him. On average what is that juiciest target? And most importantly why?
For me it has to be the P-38!
Big wings slow as hell and is so easy to kill.
It takes a skilled jockey to fly one of those things well and thus far I've only seen a few people who could fly one well. But on average every one is awed by it's looks and decide to give it a shot!
Which I don't minde because....well it's an easy kill!

shahram177
09-10-2007, 02:41 PM
Ok so you log on to a server and start your flight your in mid flight and see XXXXX at your low 12 heading towards you. You flip inverted and go after him. On average what is that juiciest target? And most importantly why?
For me it has to be the P-38!
Big wings slow as hell and is so easy to kill.
It takes a skilled jockey to fly one of those things well and thus far I've only seen a few people who could fly one well. But on average every one is awed by it's looks and decide to give it a shot!
Which I don't minde because....well it's an easy kill!

stathem
09-10-2007, 02:50 PM
My favourite would be the one piloted by someone with not many hours on the game, and no TrackIR.

Why? They're less likely to see me, less likely to react to my first wildly inaccurate shots, more likely to pull up after me as I zoom back up to a perch.

Plane wise - probably a 109, they're easier to kill with one burst than a 190.

JG52Karaya-X
09-10-2007, 03:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by shahram177:
For me it has to be the P-38!
Big wings slow as hell and is so easy to kill.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Slow? Compared to what? The ETO is a dangerous place because the Lightning does not enjoy such a decisive speed advantage but in the PTO the P38 could and can outrun any opposition until the introduction of the J2M and Ki84 in mid-late 44. It eats Zeros, Hiens, Oscars and Goshikisens for breakfast, lunch and dinner...

My favourite targets

ETO: I16s, P40s, LaGG3s, Hurricanes, P47s

PTO: Zeros, Oscars, Hellcats, P40s (yea I switch sides a lot here)

rafaellorena
09-10-2007, 04:00 PM
4sure! ... zekes! quick 2 shots of cannon from my spit and some importants parts fly away.. (like wing or tail) hehe.. papel plane... always my choice to bz

FritzGryphon
09-10-2007, 05:47 PM
P-47. It's like a ballpark frank.

TheCrux
09-10-2007, 06:52 PM
Out of the planes I've run into online:

Zero: Slow, fragile.

Any bomber, light or heavy: I might get damaged, and ultimately shot down from gunner return fire, but I'll press my attack and rake the bomber till it goes down, or I die.

VW-IceFire
09-10-2007, 07:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by shahram177:
Ok so you log on to a server and start your flight your in mid flight and see XXXXX at your low 12 heading towards you. You flip inverted and go after him. On average what is that juiciest target? And most importantly why?
For me it has to be the P-38!
Big wings slow as hell and is so easy to kill.
It takes a skilled jockey to fly one of those things well and thus far I've only seen a few people who could fly one well. But on average every one is awed by it's looks and decide to give it a shot!
Which I don't minde because....well it's an easy kill! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
P-38's are anything but slow...

My favourite target is any of the A6M Zero models. Nice big wings make great aim points and the fuel tank fires are great.

DKoor
09-10-2007, 11:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
My favourite target is any of the A6M Zero models. Nice big wings make great aim points and the fuel tank fires are great. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>+1

Anywhere I hit 'em I do good damage http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

FluffyDucks2
09-11-2007, 02:40 AM
I fly the 110 a lot and my favourite targets are Spits and Tempests. When I hit Spits with my twin 108s nothing gives me more pleasure than seeing them fold up like a wet Taco as their wing folds up around them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif or they simply go BOOOOM http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Tempests tend to break in half and flutter to their doom http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

BSS_CUDA
09-11-2007, 03:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by shahram177:
For me it has to be the P-38!
Big wings slow as hell and is so easy to kill.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>and what sim are you flying????
the 38 is one of the fastest planes in the game, especially the L-Late. it is faster than a KI84 on the deck. Good Lord when I fly on Zeke's and I can get my hands on a 38 I need to wipe the drool off my chin, flown correctly your almost untouchable. you should probably get off the wonder woman servers and fly against the more experienced pilots that have more stick time. too many people jump into the 38 and use it for bomb runs only. it is MORE than an ample dogfighter.there are very few planes I fear while in a 38. LA-7, spit 25 are 2 because that are great at everything, they out turn every thing and out run everything, true noob planes. KI's are beatable depending on the pilot. just know your plane and know your opponent. in level flight or shallow climb or dive the 38 is faster than a KI, especially at Altitude.

Brain32
09-11-2007, 10:28 AM
Favorite target, there is a few:
ETO_WF: <span class="ev_code_RED">Spitfire</span> - need I explain? I didn't think so http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
<span class="ev_code_BLUE">ME109</span> - because it's just insanely easy, like picking coins in SuperMario

ETO_EF: any kind of <span class="ev_code_RED">Lavochkin</span> and I'll happily kill Gorbonov and Godkov if they are with him http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

PTO: hmmm hard to decide, P40 and A6M5 probably...

triad773
09-11-2007, 12:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FluffyDucks2:
...Tempests tend to break in half and flutter to their doom http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah I had found (to me anyway) that Tempests seemed to have a bit of a glass jaw.

I like that motorized giant German glider (forget the model no.) So dramatic when it falls out of the sky http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Mercwolf2
09-11-2007, 12:14 PM
I like shooting up corsairs. I find them easier to take down. P-38's are also good targets but can take alot of dammage.

shahram177
09-11-2007, 01:10 PM
I tend to stay away from the full realism no external view servers. My life is real enough I don't need to spend 15 hours searching for some one only to be deep sixed from the high six!
Lately I've been hanging in the 4.08 server due to it's speed and fun factor, small maps external view and large plane selection.
But for me....on a P-38 down low is like playing keep away with a fat chick! Boy it's fun! Go inverted and just dive on that fatty mc fatty! And I don't care how fast you can accelerate bullets still will be faster. So give them a bit of an arc and just count the hits!
The mustang is another fun target to go after!
And any one who is willing to fly these two planes on line really has some big nuts! Between the flat spins and being a big target.....big nuts!

TgD Thunderbolt56
09-11-2007, 01:34 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

DKoor
09-11-2007, 02:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TgD Thunderbolt56:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

shahram177
09-11-2007, 02:53 PM
I can't see it what? Who? Where?

BSS_CUDA
09-12-2007, 07:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by shahram177:
I tend to stay away from the full realism no external view servers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

get on comms find a FR server and after a month you'll probably not want to go back to the arcade servers

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by shahram177:
The mustang is another fun target to go after!
And any one who is willing to fly these two planes on line really has some big nuts! Between the flat spins and being a big target.....big nuts! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

then I must have some pretty big ones then, I fly the 38 almost exclusive, very seldom do I bomb run with it either. I like to dogfight with it, and I do very well. I usually fly Warclouds, but have been playing with the Skies of fire arcade server some recently just for a change of pace, and I more than hold my own against all the +25 and LA-7 in there.

FluffyDucks2
09-12-2007, 07:17 AM
Anyone that says the P38 is slow is talking out their butt http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

The problem for the P38 is that very few actually know how to fly them properly, flown correctly it is almost untouchable http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

shahram177
09-12-2007, 09:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FluffyDucks2:
Anyone that says the P38 is slow is talking out their butt http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

The problem for the P38 is that very few actually know how to fly them properly, flown correctly it is almost untouchable http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't care how fast you are! If i'm at your high six my bullets will hit you. And on a target as big and as fat as the 38 it's a sure hit.

RAF_OldBuzzard
09-12-2007, 10:08 AM
Sounds like the only 38's that you have seen have been flown by noobs that have them loaded up with bombs and/or rockets.

You won't ever be on the high 6 of a 'low and slow P-38' if it's being flown properly. For me, 'slow' in a P-38 is 250 MPH, at the top of a loop or Immleman(sp?).

The P-38 is a very good plane and more than capable of holding it's own against just about everything in the game. It's only drawback, if you can call it that, is that it's not 'noob friendly'. It takes a lot of time to learn how to use it's strengths, and fly it correctly.

FluffyDucks2
09-12-2007, 10:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by shahram177:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FluffyDucks2:
Anyone that says the P38 is slow is talking out their butt http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

The problem for the P38 is that very few actually know how to fly them properly, flown correctly it is almost untouchable http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't care how fast you are! If i'm at your high six my bullets will hit you. And on a target as big and as fat as the 38 it's a sure hit. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You really haven't a clue have you ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Try doing that in a FR server or the likes of WarClouds....wonderwoman view servers don't count, they're for the kiddies http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Fighterduck
09-13-2007, 03:16 AM
uhm..best target?

must be the Ju-52!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
beside of this i think p-40.Why? i dont know..im just good to shoot at them ^^
As for the p-38..yeah if the pilot isnt a p-38 expert, the plane is really easy to shoot down. But if the pilot know what he is doing, p-38 is pretty hard to hit.

DKoor
09-13-2007, 05:26 AM
I don't know.....it's not that it takes some super skill to be good, like some newbie may interpret.

Good P-38 flying is not much different to good flying of any other plane.

First step forward to being a good fighter sim pilot is to learn that it's not the plane chars that will save you, it's the tactical position that makes difference between losing and winning. Another words....you may take the best plane in the sim in your opinion (Spitfire 25lbs, LA-7 I don't care whatever you choose).....and you'll get owned most of the times by fighters such are 190, P-47, P-51 etc. in superior tactical position.

For instance.........when I was flying 190 I've been flying it on few arcade server for a few times.
After my kill rate was 10-15 E/A shot down for no losses, half of the server flew 190 in hard turn deck fight thinking that this must be wonder winning plane.
I can see their logic behind...if I do a good job in some plane that must be - "the plane...it's really good and better than mine".
They never considered that I always engaged them from superior position and that 90% of my wins were done in less than 10 seconds passes.

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AFJ_rsm
09-13-2007, 05:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stathem:

Why? They're less likely to see me, less likely to react to my first wildly inaccurate shots, </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Just a thought here... you might wanna give team killing a try, it's a blast!

AFJ_rsm
09-13-2007, 05:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FluffyDucks2:

You really haven't a clue have you ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Try doing that in a FR server or the likes of WarClouds....wonderwoman view servers don't count, they're for the kiddies http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I love your use of the rolling eye smily! O and calling out the wonderwoman view servers kiddy servers. It makes you sound so.... like good at this game and manly and stuff.


Seriously, lets try not to discourage new players on their new found addiction. The guy said he flies on cockpit off servers and enjoys it.

FluffyDucks2
09-13-2007, 07:40 AM
yes daddy, sorry daddy, no, I promise I won't do it again...honest http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

It must be great to be so...superior http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Numpty http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

DKoor
09-13-2007, 08:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AFJ_rsm:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stathem:

Why? They're less likely to see me, less likely to react to my first wildly inaccurate shots, </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Just a thought here... you might wanna give team killing a try, it's a blast! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Last time I checked, I still held teh record; -11,000+pts achieved on Trollville 2.04 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
And yes rsm is right http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

AFJ_rsm
09-13-2007, 10:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FluffyDucks2:
It must be great to be so...superior
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's not all its hiped up to be. But most definitely yes, I'd much rather be me than you.

shahram177
09-17-2007, 10:37 AM
Oh you winers! Does every thing you guys talk about fall appart in to a ***** session!
I mean really!
God!
Thank god I didn't say P-51D!
Still another easy target to take out due to it's difficulty of mastery!
Zeros are alot of fun to but catching those guys is a bit hard since they can turn to darn tight!

Waldo.Pepper
09-17-2007, 12:17 PM
Back on topic.

Favourite target?

Bombers - preferably lots of them in formation. I like setting up the perfect pass - blasting through a bunch of them at fuselage shaking speed. Feeling just a little bit lucky if I down one, and loving the satisfaction of getting away without a scratch.

Like this -

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/favourite%20mission%20blast/grab0002.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/favourite%20mission%20blast/grab0001.gif
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Dtools4fools
09-18-2007, 07:46 AM
Preferred?

Anything that doesn shoot back and can't outfly me.

Mossie is lovely as long as I'm in a plane faster.

DC-3 is great too. Love that for practicing passes in my Ki-43 (2x7.7mm versions) with arcade hit arrows switched on...
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