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dbillo
04-26-2006, 07:41 AM
Watching AI fly around, I've noticed copious use of rudder. Sometimes they appear to make turns using ONLY rudder; certainly way more than should be necessary.

I won't even get into some of the other wacky maneouvres they do sometimes, but what's up with the rudder? Should I be flying that way?

dbillo
04-26-2006, 07:41 AM
Watching AI fly around, I've noticed copious use of rudder. Sometimes they appear to make turns using ONLY rudder; certainly way more than should be necessary.

I won't even get into some of the other wacky maneouvres they do sometimes, but what's up with the rudder? Should I be flying that way?

Tully__
04-26-2006, 02:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Should I be flying that way? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No. Try it and see why not. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

RCAF_Irish_403
04-26-2006, 03:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tully__:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Should I be flying that way? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No. Try it and see why not. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Had to land a Betty this morning with just ruddder b/c my other controls were shot out by flak....it didn't work http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

blakduk
04-26-2006, 09:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dbillo:
Watching AI fly around, I've noticed copious use of rudder. Sometimes they appear to make turns using ONLY rudder; certainly way more than should be necessary. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've noticed the same thing. I reviewed tracks of the AI and tried to use them as guides to how i should be flying. The results were not pretty http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

WTE_Galway
04-26-2006, 11:21 PM
a generous kick of rudder is good to make a nice crisp start to a turn

but once in the turn you should only need enough rudder to centre the ball and counter torque .. and in a WWII fighter there may well enugh torque to mean slight opposite rudder to co-ordinate the turn

that said .. a co-ordinated turn in combat is not always a good thing it can make you easier to hit with a deflection shot .. skidding thru a turn can be a good ruse to throw off the aim of anyone behind you