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ARCHIE_CALVERT
07-22-2006, 12:35 PM
It brings home just how tricky it is/was to fly the Sopwith... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Credit is due to the pilots for this film.

Enjoy... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtprTL66-FY

ARCHIE_CALVERT
07-22-2006, 12:35 PM
It brings home just how tricky it is/was to fly the Sopwith... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Credit is due to the pilots for this film.

Enjoy... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtprTL66-FY

berg417448
07-22-2006, 02:08 PM
Good Stuff!

The overhead view was interesting. I can see why they eliminated the red color from the center of the roundel in the Pacific...that red really stands out and could be mistaken for Japanese markings at a quick glance.

ploughman
07-22-2006, 03:40 PM
Not to mention the elliptical wings, there were some blue on blues undoubtably as a result of mis-identifications of Seafires based on their wing geometry.

Hilariously enough, standing orders in the BTO and PTO were, if it's got red it's dead. FM Slim recounts how he had his stomach in his mouth when he saw the plane transporting his new boss, Mountbatten, had red centres to its roundels when it arrived in the BTO meaning would've been legitimately shot down by any roving fighter in-theatre, Allied or otherwise!

But. Thanks Archie, that was fascinating. I had no idea Camels were so tricky to operate, 'the throttle's part of the ignition system?' Eh?! It doesn't recycle oil! Looks like Wanaka's got a great airshow going, I've never seen a Camel in the sky and I've been to some good ones!

ARCHIE_CALVERT
07-22-2006, 04:39 PM
Well by all accounts it was the same for all who flew the early radials, the gyroscopic forces were the same for friends or foe alike. Apparently it was a common way for New pilots to die... Nasty http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

The-Pizza-Man
07-22-2006, 06:17 PM
you mean rotaries?

Spinnetti
07-22-2006, 07:30 PM
Cool Thanks!

That design killed as many pilots as the Germans. Amazing folks still fly them....

Cajun76
07-22-2006, 08:47 PM
As you can see, it was impossible to recover the oil.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v30/Cajun76/gnome.gif

Treetop64
07-22-2006, 08:57 PM
How fascinating!

Camels didn't have a throttle, but a selectable mag instead! Those guys flew some contraptions in those days.

p1ngu666
07-22-2006, 09:01 PM
amazing some guys went to war in those things with 11hours, or less. total flying time..

amazing how much oil it chucks out too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Treetop64
07-22-2006, 09:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by p1ngu666:
amazing some guys went to war in those things with 11hours, or less. total flying time..

amazing how much oil it chucks out too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, you can see the exaust and oil literally pouring out of it as the Camel flies. What a mess...

Ishmael932
07-22-2006, 09:57 PM
I remember reading about WWI pilots and the diarrhetic effects of breathing castor oil fumes. Apparently, one enterprising French pilot had a zipper sewed into the seat of his pants and cut a hole in his seat and the bottom of the plane. Whenever the urge came over him, he would fly over the German trenches and literally drop stink bombs on the enemy. This was usually greeted by a flurry of small arms fire from the affected trenches.

x6BL_Brando
07-23-2006, 03:30 AM
The beautifully-restored Clerget rotary in the museum at RNAS Yeovilton.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/brando6BL/Clerget-small.jpg

Imagine the whole of that mass spinning at several thousand rpm on the front of this teeny beast http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/brando6BL/Camel_4.jpg

These guys were heroes just by climbing in, imo, let alone the combat aspect.

B