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Tallyho1961
06-29-2005, 02:48 PM
I really enjoy the immersion of seeing animated controls in the cockpit. Also, since I fly without hudlog or external views, the animation has a real purpose in keeping track of things that aren't always apparent from the cockpit, like degree of radiator flap opening, for one.

I only fly allied aircraft, so I can't comment on German or Japanese aircraft, but I think the animation award goes to the Wildcat. Every control we use is animated (with the exception of the supercharger switcher which I haven't seen on any a/c). It's also one of the a/c with a retractable canopy and I even noticed that as you raise or lower your landing gear a little triangular indicator slides along a horizontal path just above the winch http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The Hawk 81A-2 is also great in this respect and makes me wish its later P-40 descendants had retractable canopies and an animated cowl flap lever.

Do any of the Axis aircraft feature this level of animation/immersion? And is control animation important to others?

Tallyho1961
06-29-2005, 02:48 PM
I really enjoy the immersion of seeing animated controls in the cockpit. Also, since I fly without hudlog or external views, the animation has a real purpose in keeping track of things that aren't always apparent from the cockpit, like degree of radiator flap opening, for one.

I only fly allied aircraft, so I can't comment on German or Japanese aircraft, but I think the animation award goes to the Wildcat. Every control we use is animated (with the exception of the supercharger switcher which I haven't seen on any a/c). It's also one of the a/c with a retractable canopy and I even noticed that as you raise or lower your landing gear a little triangular indicator slides along a horizontal path just above the winch http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The Hawk 81A-2 is also great in this respect and makes me wish its later P-40 descendants had retractable canopies and an animated cowl flap lever.

Do any of the Axis aircraft feature this level of animation/immersion? And is control animation important to others?

DxyFlyr
06-29-2005, 03:56 PM
I'll second you on that Wildcat. I was noticing the trim wheel turning just the other day and wondered how many other pits has animations like that. I'd seen (and heard) the manual gear crank in the I-16 before, but that Wildcat takes the prize, I think.

Klatu2003
06-29-2005, 04:31 PM
The Me-163 also has the Trim wheel. I always use it to crank-in a lot of nose-down trim (6-turns) prior to lighting that rocket engine!!!

klatu - out

Achilles_NZ
06-29-2005, 04:37 PM
In the FW-190, I have seen the throttle control slide back and forth with power adjustments, The rudder pedals on the floor of the cockpit move, as do the firing buttons on the control column when using primary / secondary guns, As well as the column itself with control inputs.

I Cant recall if the Bf-109's do the same though. Strange that, as I spend more time in the 109 pit than anything else... doh! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
Guess I€m too busy looking forwards than down http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I have hardly flown the Wildcat, but will definitely keep an eye out for the animations.

Cheers for the headsup http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

SeaFireLIV
06-29-2005, 04:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tallyho1961:
I really enjoy the immersion of seeing animated controls in the cockpit. Also, since I fly without hudlog or external views, the animation has a real purpose in keeping track of things that aren't always apparent from the cockpit, like degree of radiator flap opening, for one.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Me too. I love flying without the HUD. It doesn`t bother me if a plane I shoot vanishes out of view streaming smoke and I never find out if I killed it or not.

Like you say, it is frustrating with some controls like the radiater, I have to use a `5-stop` memory for it.

I`m flying the Brit Corsair at the moment and it has quite a few switches - is that the wildcat?

AirborneCoyote
06-29-2005, 04:55 PM
Seafire, both the F4F's are Wildcats.

JG7_Rall
06-29-2005, 07:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Achilles_NZ:
In the FW-190, I have seen the throttle control slide back and forth with power adjustments, The rudder pedals on the floor of the cockpit move, as do the firing buttons on the control column when using primary / secondary guns, As well as the column itself with control inputs.

I Cant recall if the Bf-109's do the same though. Strange that, as I spend more time in the 109 pit than anything else... doh! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
Guess I€m too busy looking forwards than down http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I have hardly flown the Wildcat, but will definitely keep an eye out for the animations.

Cheers for the headsup http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's because the 190's pit is just so sexy...you can't help but just stare at it!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I like your sig btw, the Emil is my favorite 109 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Tallyho1961
06-29-2005, 07:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Achilles_NZ:
In the FW-190, I have seen the throttle control slide back and forth with power adjustments, The rudder pedals on the floor of the cockpit move, as do the firing buttons on the control column when using primary / secondary guns, As well as the column itself with control inputs.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm going to jump into an FW-190 just to see those firing buttons depress - that's one animation I've never seen/noticed on any of our a/c!

I would love to see a patch that brought all the cockpit animations up to par. I realize this is completely unrealistic, but if I dould be granted one IL2 wish, that would be it.

PS - The FM-2 is also a Wildcat, contract-built by General Electric I believe.

hobnail
06-29-2005, 07:37 PM
The IL2 model has alot of bells and whistles including a moving brake lever and the gear indicator tabs on the wings which are visible from the cockpit.

LEXX_Luthor
06-29-2005, 08:12 PM
1961:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I only fly allied aircraft, so I can't comment on German or Japanese aircraft, </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The top <span class="ev_code_yellow">best</span> USAAF and US NAVY combat pilots competed for the chance to fly captured German or Japanese aircraft.

The best Japanese WW2 aces flew F~86 Sabres. The greatest of Germany's WW2 aces flew NATO F~104 StarFighters.

You are missing alot from this sim. Simulate the experience of the *best* USA/UK combat pilots.

Achilles_NZ
06-29-2005, 08:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG7_Rall:

That's because the 190's pit is just so sexy...you can't help but just stare at it!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I like your sig btw, the Emil is my favorite 109 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I totally agree mate, The Emil is awesome!
The instruments are well laid out and easy to read as well.
Definitely one of my all time faves, especially after the last patch. Pulling hammerheads on I-16's is just too cool, and something that was hard to pull off effectively before.


BTW, the skin in my sig is of Von Werra's Bf-109E4 (Stab II./JG3) by CanonUK.
You can download it here (http://www.canons-skins.com//battle_of_britain_109.htm) (6th one down)

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Tallyho1961
06-29-2005, 08:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">You are missing alot from this sim. Simulate the experience of the *best* USA/UK combat pilots. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I know you're right. I've been in all the cockpits, but haven't spent any real time flying them. It's probably gettin' close to that time.

Oilburner_TAW
06-29-2005, 08:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tallyho1961:
I really enjoy the immersion of seeing animated controls in the cockpit. Also, since I fly without hudlog or external views, the animation has a real purpose in keeping track of things that aren't always apparent from the cockpit, like degree of radiator flap opening, for one.

I only fly allied aircraft, so I can't comment on German or Japanese aircraft, but I think the animation award goes to the Wildcat. Every control we use is animated (with the exception of the supercharger switcher which I haven't seen on any a/c). It's also one of the a/c with a retractable canopy and I even noticed that as you raise or lower your landing gear a little triangular indicator slides along a horizontal path just above the winch http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The Hawk 81A-2 is also great in this respect and makes me wish its later P-40 descendants had retractable canopies and an animated cowl flap lever.

Do any of the Axis aircraft feature this level of animation/immersion? And is control animation important to others? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I believe it's the I153 that has the animated supercharger level..one of the "cr@planes" has it..

NonWonderDog
06-29-2005, 09:14 PM
A lot of planes have animated supercharger levers. Nearly every Russian and US Navy plane has it animated, at least. The Wildcat's supercharger lever should be near your left thigh; it's animated.

I few Russian planes have animated fire buttons, too. The big fire buttons on the IL-2 are animated, and several others have something similar.

DxyFlyr
06-29-2005, 09:17 PM
Another plane with a really cool effect is the new Buffalo. Watch the mechanism under the floorboard at the base of the stick when you throw it around.

It also has a nice landing gear and flap position indicator animation. Not to mention the ammo counter. I believe these are in the Buffalo models we had previously as well.

Tallyho1961
06-29-2005, 09:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DxyFlyr:
Another plane with a really cool effect is the new Buffalo. Watch the mechanism under the floorboard at the base of the stick when you throw it around.

It also has a nice landing gear and flap position indicator animation. Not to mention the ammo counter. I believe these are in the Buffalo models we had previously as well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I just checked it out in the QMB and I agree - it's a beautiful cockpit all around. And those control column linkages are very neat.

This is really minor, but I noticed that the reflector gunsight has a slight, but very realistic-feeling yellowish discolouration to it. It looks very 1940's. I don't think the other RAF a/c with this gunsight have this effect.

TheStriker_p51d
06-29-2005, 09:46 PM
the p47 (all models) drawn with non other than a crayola crayon. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DxyFlyr
06-29-2005, 10:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">the reflector gunsight has a slight, but very realistic-feeling yellowish discolouration to it. It looks very 1940's. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Not too loud, Tallyho, you'll start a whole gaggle of folks screaming about windex again.