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danjama
12-01-2005, 03:06 PM

Airmail109
12-01-2005, 03:10 PM
err no not really, they are poor aircraft at high speeds....THE best dogfight i ever had was with a very good la7 pilot whilst i was in a MKIII Stang....I was using energy tactics and tried to draw him up/bleed loadsa e so then i could make high speed slashing attacks on him......in turn he tried to make me bleed e so he could turn fight with me.....both of us flew well and neither of us could quite get into a firing position on each other...after 10 mins of manuvering and counter-manuvering we called it a draw and departed with a salute.

JG52Uther
12-01-2005, 03:14 PM
I am more concerned about planes such as the LAGG 3 and their 'interesting' damage model

tigertalon
12-01-2005, 03:31 PM
La5/7 were the most feared opponents of Luftwaffe on eastern front (until the arrival of "Russische Mustang" Yak9U), and calling:"Achtung! La Funf!" always ment immediate danger in the sky. However, at high-medium altitudes they were/are as breathless as Luciano Pararotti after going to 50th floor of Petronas building on foot because of elevator breakdown.

ONLY thing where I am skeptical about accuracy in FM is SLOW speed handling. Bf109 pilots reported they had no problems turning inside this plane at speeds below 400kph, and could not above. Slats can mean a lot here...



Originally posted by JG52Uther:
I am more concerned about planes such as the LAGG 3 and their 'interesting' damage model

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif

Also FM is interesting, especially its E-bleed (E-bleed? What E bleed???), particulary when we compare it to La5 with WAY stronger engine.

MEGILE
12-01-2005, 03:36 PM
Maybe when Russian pilots referred to the laGG as a flying coffin, they meant a 10mm thick Titanium/delta-wood polymer (TDw2) armoured uber-coffin

danjama
12-01-2005, 05:32 PM
and how come u can hold the stick back and keep it there in a Lagg turn? I mean all the way back too...

NorrisMcWhirter
12-01-2005, 05:40 PM
^ because it's VVS.

Accuracy is paramount providing that it doesn't infringe on the uber Russian core aircraft contingent of Lagg3 and La5 it would appear. And always has done.

Ta,
Norris

LeadSpitter_
12-01-2005, 07:00 PM
mods ban the idiot above ^^^^^^

Falcar
12-01-2005, 08:27 PM
Ban the idiot above me while you're at it. In fact, ban me too!

p1ngu666
12-01-2005, 08:42 PM
the yaks are hard to fly, only the slatted lagg/la and i185 are uber anymore
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

incidently, ingame the la7 trounces yak9u in all areas

MLudner
12-01-2005, 08:48 PM
I've not had a hard time against either Lavochkin design yet; either on or off line (Except that the 7 is really, really fast). On-line one got me, but I was sandwiched between him and another red player. The other two were saved by the bell.

Pirschjaeger
12-01-2005, 09:19 PM
I have a hard time against any plane now. I just installed the 4.02 and now it feels like anything I fly is balanced on a needle. I really doubt those planes, in real, were that sensitive. As WomenFly pointed out in another thread, if the real planes were even close to our virtual planes, most pilot deaths would have been noncombat related.

BTW, Danjama, if you wonder to far, you'll get lost. Bread crumbs, never forget the bread crumps. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Fritz

Falcar
12-02-2005, 08:33 AM
I find it easier to fly in 4.02, so I'm not quite sure what you're going on about with this needle business.

Pirschjaeger
12-02-2005, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by Falcar:
I find it easier to fly in 4.02, so I'm not quite sure what you're going on about with this needle business.

The slightest movement with the j-stick is like full movements of the plane. Moving the top of the handle 1cm will put me in an instant roll. Imagine flying using only the keys.

I posted this same problem back when 4.01 was released but I got little help. My j-stick is extremely sensitive. It works fine with all versions of the game up to patch 4.01, then it's my plane balanced on a flexible needle.

Is it possible something needs to be changed in the config file? None of the stick settings offered helped.

BTW Falcar, it seems you are new here, 3 posts, welcome to the family. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Fritz

berg417448
12-02-2005, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
I have a hard time against any plane now. I just installed the 4.02 and now it feels like anything I fly is balanced on a needle. I really doubt those planes, in real, were that sensitive. As WomenFly pointed out in another thread, if the real planes were even close to our virtual planes, most pilot deaths would have been noncombat related.


Fritz

I know what you mean. I've had to adjust my stick settings quite a bit with this latest patch. Most planes are ok now but I still get the "wobbles" with a few (Corsair for one).

SeaFireLIV
12-02-2005, 09:16 AM
It was very good a long time ago, but no more. It will kill you if you don`t treat it right.

neural_dream
12-02-2005, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
The slightest movement with the j-stick is like full movements of the plane. Moving the top of the handle 1cm will put me in an instant roll. Imagine flying using only the keys.

I posted this same problem back when 4.01 was released but I got little help. My j-stick is extremely sensitive. It works fine with all versions of the game up to patch 4.01, then it's my plane balanced on a flexible needle.

Is it possible something needs to be changed in the config file? None of the stick settings offered helped.

BTW Falcar, it seems you are new here, 3 posts, welcome to the family. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Fritz
Where were you when we had those endless debates about the wobbles? Search for wobbles in the forum and I guess you'll find something.

MLudner
12-02-2005, 09:40 AM
Wobbles? You know, I still have not experienced this mysterious wobble thing yet in any aircraft. It must be your vastly inferior joysticks.

Think Saitek.
Think X52.
Think default settings.
Then learn to fly!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
(Kidding....except about the wobble bit.)

Pirschjaeger
12-02-2005, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by neural_dream:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
The slightest movement with the j-stick is like full movements of the plane. Moving the top of the handle 1cm will put me in an instant roll. Imagine flying using only the keys.

I posted this same problem back when 4.01 was released but I got little help. My j-stick is extremely sensitive. It works fine with all versions of the game up to patch 4.01, then it's my plane balanced on a flexible needle.

Is it possible something needs to be changed in the config file? None of the stick settings offered helped.

BTW Falcar, it seems you are new here, 3 posts, welcome to the family. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Fritz
Where were you when we had those endless debates about the wobbles? Search for wobbles in the forum and I guess you'll find something. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey N-Dream, 9th post down:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m...73/showpollresults/Y (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/4251071473/showpollresults/Y)

Now that some time has passed, was this the right solution for you?

We are running the same gear.

Fritz

Freelancer-1
12-02-2005, 09:47 AM
That is a good looking plane. Looks like a nice skin project.

Could I get a link, please?

Pirschjaeger
12-02-2005, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by MLudner:
Wobbles? You know, I still have not experienced this mysterious wobble thing yet in any aircraft. It must be your vastly inferior joysticks.

Think Saitek.
Think X52.
Think default settings.
Then learn to fly!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
(Kidding....except about the wobble bit.)

I tried the 3D Gold and it was much better, but you know the old rule:"objects in motion tend to stay in motion, until they hit something hard." My new rule: "Don't trip over the cord for the j-stick".

It seems the Evo is extra sensitive to the wobble thing. It's like a breathalizer. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Fritz

MLudner
12-02-2005, 11:13 AM
The 3D Gold was my original stick back in my Jane's WWII Fighters, CFS I & II days. It's a good stick, but I think the X52 is better. In large part because of all those buttons; I can do so much without ever reaching for the keyboard now-a-days.
Saitak sticks are also very reliable and long lived.

danjama
12-02-2005, 01:55 PM
"BTW, Danjama, if you wonder to far, you'll get lost. Bread crumbs, never forget the bread crumbs."

Thanks for the tip! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Now where did i put my loaf?! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

danjama
12-02-2005, 01:56 PM
Checkin the results 47% say yes, 47% say no! Keep the votes coming i need a conclusion.

MLudner
12-02-2005, 05:05 PM
You are a young man, so you might not know this yet, but:

Opinions are like asssss-uhm, noses!, yeah: NOSES!: everybody has one.

Pirschjaeger
12-02-2005, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by MLudner:
The 3D Gold was my original stick back in my Jane's WWII Fighters, CFS I & II days. It's a good stick, but I think the X52 is better. In large part because of all those buttons; I can do so much without ever reaching for the keyboard now-a-days.
Saitak sticks are also very reliable and long lived.

I used to have the x45 + 3D Gold. I used the x45 throttle. If the x52 is anything like the x45, I'll never buy it. The handle on the x45 stick was too small. The z-axis was impossible to use since there wasn't enough rom for 4 fingers. I did however, appreciate the buttons.

Fritz

Pirschjaeger
12-02-2005, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by danjama:
Checkin the results 47% say yes, 47% say no! Keep the votes coming i need a conclusion.

Something not mentioned in that poll are the sticks. Important variable.

Fritz

Pirschjaeger
12-03-2005, 01:20 AM
Problem solved. I repaired the 3D Gold and the wobble is gone. It's no coincidence that the "Evo" sounds like "evil".

Back to the original question, no it's not "├╝ber", it's only better than you Danjama. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Fritz

Tully__
12-03-2005, 05:26 AM
Originally posted by MLudner:
You are a young man, so you might not know this yet, but:

Opinions are like asssss-uhm, noses!, yeah: NOSES!: everybody has one. And they all smell... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif