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XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 09:04 AM
Yesterday, I was in a FB Soviet fighter campaign flying an I-16. When long flying to a target, I use to switch on the autopilot, just to keep my plane in formation without much effort.

But, mid way to a waypoint, all the planes in my flight, including mine, began to roll and turn with no apparent reason. There were no enemies here, and we were all in perfect formation. One of my mates made a half roll and crashed into me. We were both killed.

I started over, and it happened exactly the same, as if it was programmed. So the third time I waited till we got that critical point and, when my comrades begun to dance, I just deactivated the autopilot to avoid collision.

Has someone experienced something similar? It should be researched. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 09:04 AM
Yesterday, I was in a FB Soviet fighter campaign flying an I-16. When long flying to a target, I use to switch on the autopilot, just to keep my plane in formation without much effort.

But, mid way to a waypoint, all the planes in my flight, including mine, began to roll and turn with no apparent reason. There were no enemies here, and we were all in perfect formation. One of my mates made a half roll and crashed into me. We were both killed.

I started over, and it happened exactly the same, as if it was programmed. So the third time I waited till we got that critical point and, when my comrades begun to dance, I just deactivated the autopilot to avoid collision.

Has someone experienced something similar? It should be researched. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 09:59 AM
Nobody interested? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

bump

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XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 10:52 AM
I also have observed that AI pilots tend to act like a swarm.. Someone pointed out (I don't remember if it was here or at simhq) that the current formation spacing is too little.

It simply isn't practical for mutual cover purpose (probably the biggest purpose of flying in formation) and creates problems like the one you observed.

Another issue that rarely gets mentioned, and that could be fixed very quickly, is that you sometimes can't discern what commands are given to you, since all radio messages are played with no cue to which one is for you. A simple fix would be to print the command with a slight different shade of color (like a lighter blue if you're flying axis, or a lighter red if you're vvs).

And while we're here, let me add that it would be nice if you could request a vector to your flight so that you wouldn't need to kick in AP to find your mates.

And finally, one thing that really went unnoticed (sometimes I wonder how many people have been playing the offline stuff..) is that if you are, say, number 2, and number 1 dies, everybody gets in formation with you, but you CANNOT give them commands.

Basically you are moving followed by a swarm of planes that can crash on you and you can't tell them anything.

I think that this last one is a bug and I have already forwarded to Oleg.

Someone should really keep a list of these small, and easy-to-implement things, because they should really get fixed at least in the addon. The offline experience would change dramatically (expecially when you don't play as a leader).

XyZspineZyX
08-21-2003, 10:56 AM
Note that I said they should be fixed in add-on: I meant the one that will be for sale. I would gladly pay to see those issues fixed.