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Lowenherz
07-15-2006, 11:34 AM
For those of you with kids, as they get older and more independent, it's a strange time. My lad is 12, and is always out with his friends, and it's easy not to spend any time with him on his own. But today, we went to my little local airport (Hurn), which has an exhibition of a few aircraft and lots of models and history of our area during WWII. He just loved sitting in various cockpits and playing with the switches and control columns, and near the end he took my hand and said how much he'd enjoyed being together. And I wondered how long it would be before he would not hold my hand... Here he is sitting in a Hawker Hunter. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://premium1.uploadit.org/sonofdavros//CIMG0139.JPG
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Lowenherz
07-15-2006, 11:34 AM
For those of you with kids, as they get older and more independent, it's a strange time. My lad is 12, and is always out with his friends, and it's easy not to spend any time with him on his own. But today, we went to my little local airport (Hurn), which has an exhibition of a few aircraft and lots of models and history of our area during WWII. He just loved sitting in various cockpits and playing with the switches and control columns, and near the end he took my hand and said how much he'd enjoyed being together. And I wondered how long it would be before he would not hold my hand... Here he is sitting in a Hawker Hunter. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://premium1.uploadit.org/sonofdavros//CIMG0139.JPG
http://premium1.uploadit.org/sonofdavros//CIMG0138.JPG

heywooood
07-15-2006, 11:42 AM
my own son is 19 now, Lowenherz...so I can tell you it won't be long.

He looks like a happy kid - stay close to him and keep the trust and communication going no matter what, and you'll both be fine.

I was shocked at the changes my son went through but we never stopped talking about stuff although the hardest part for me was learning to listen fully - not make assumptions or jump to my own conclusions. Just listen.

Days like that one in the photo are awesome though eh? unbeatable.

Here is me with my wife and son in Maui last month - we are all still best pals.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/heywooood/IMG004.jpg

LStarosta
07-15-2006, 12:32 PM
I'm 18 and I still hold mommy's hand.

Rood-Zwart
07-15-2006, 06:33 PM
Lowenherz, your son looks like me at that age ^_^
Im 20 now, and since my 13th, I havent really spoken to my dad anymore, even though we share interests... he fueled my facination for WW2 planes and submarines, expecially german...

Kind of a sad story http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

HotelBushranger
07-16-2006, 02:29 AM
Nice kid Lowenherz http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif whats his name?

waffen-79
07-16-2006, 04:04 AM
congrats m8, I'm not a father yet and I can only imagine those feelings.

All I can say is enjoy every moment together doing guys stuff. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Lowenherz
07-16-2006, 10:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HotelBushranger:
Nice kid Lowenherz http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif whats his name? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Louis (pronounced Loo-Eee, for you Americans! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

BrewsterPilot
07-16-2006, 11:21 AM
He looks like enjoying himself very much. You must be a very happy father!

Personally I'm 14 years old.

My parents split up (of reasons that shall remain secret) when I was barely three years old, and have almost not spoken a word with eachother since then. I used to visit my father once a week until I was about 7-8, but after that, we broke contact almost completely (AGAIN of reasons that shall remain secret). I have not seen him since about one week before last christmas, and at that point, only for ~2 hours. I meet him 2-3 times a year, and for a few hours each time. He has not called me since January. I have two half brothers and one half sister. I haven't seen anyone of them since last summer.

Now I'm sure some of you wonder, why the heck am I sharing all this with you?

The reason is simple. You just sometimes have to ease the pressure that builds thinking of these things.

Love hate, jealousy and many more.

It always makes me both happy and jealous when I see a "real" family where everyone is together and has fun with the others. Especially with their fathers. . .

heywooood
07-16-2006, 12:11 PM
ahhh - I have something for you....

My parents did the same thing as yours - almost exactly the same situation for me...and I remember feeling the same way about other, whole families.

I often wondered if my experience would make me a poor father or less likely to work at a family relationship.

In fact - I think the opposite is true. I found myself wanting to make sure that I was always there, always communicating - always engaged.

You will be fine. You won't need to be jealous of real families anymore when you have that experience with your own, when the time comes...and you will know exactly how it should be.

BrewsterPilot
07-16-2006, 01:05 PM
You know what? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

You just saved my week at a camp! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

I know, that when I really start thinking about it I can keep being quiet and isolated for weeks.

But your kind words. . .

Saved my week completely! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

I've wrote them down and put them in my wallet on a piece of paper if I'd EVER start thinking about it too much again. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif


Thank You! Thank You SO much! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

danjama
07-16-2006, 04:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lowenherz:
For those of you with kids, as they get older and more independent, it's a strange time. My lad is 12, and is always out with his friends, and it's easy not to spend any time with him on his own. But today, we went to my little local airport (Hurn), which has an exhibition of a few aircraft and lots of models and history of our area during WWII. He just loved sitting in various cockpits and playing with the switches and control columns, and near the end he took my hand and said how much he'd enjoyed being together. And I wondered how long it would be before he would not hold my hand... Here he is sitting in a Hawker Hunter. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://premium1.uploadit.org/sonofdavros//CIMG0139.JPG
http://premium1.uploadit.org/sonofdavros//CIMG0138.JPG </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

the images arent showing for me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif they sounded nice too!

Im glad you have such a great relationship with your son mate. I havnt met my Dad, he left when i was one, and my mother died when i was 15 too. Been on my own pretty much since, no idea how i did it. Now i am 18 nearly 19, its almost every day i debate contacting my Dad somehow. I just dont have the courage yet. It doesnt seem possible that he would want to hear from me. A wierd feeling.

slipBall
07-16-2006, 04:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lowenherz:
For those of you with kids, as they get older and more independent, it's a strange time. My lad is 12, and is always out with his friends, and it's easy not to spend any time with him on his own. But today, we went to my little local airport (Hurn), which has an exhibition of a few aircraft and lots of models and history of our area during WWII. He just loved sitting in various cockpits and playing with the switches and control columns, and near the end he took my hand and said how much he'd enjoyed being together. And I wondered how long it would be before he would not hold my hand... Here he is sitting in a Hawker Hunter. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://premium1.uploadit.org/sonofdavros//CIMG0139.JPG
http://premium1.uploadit.org/sonofdavros//CIMG0138.JPG </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

the images arent showing for me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif they sounded nice too!

Im glad you have such a great relationship with your son mate. I havnt met my Dad, he left when i was one, and my mother died when i was 15 too. Been on my own pretty much since, no idea how i did it. Now i am 18 nearly 19, its almost every day i debate contacting my Dad somehow. I just dont have the courage yet. It doesnt seem possible that he would want to hear from me. A wierd feeling. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


As a father I can tell you that he would love to see you again. You really don't have anything to loose by it, give it a shot. He probable finds himself at times, wishing, and dreaming to see you again. Don't wait too long, you guys have alot of catching up to do http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

FoolTrottel
07-16-2006, 05:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Now i am 18 nearly 19, its almost every day i debate contacting my Dad somehow. I just dont have the courage yet. It doesnt seem possible that he would want to hear from me. A wierd feeling. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Go for it...

Lack of courage? What if you ask a friend to contact him, have him/her ask what his thoughts are?
That way, in case of a negative response, it might be less painfull, less akward...

Just an idea... I dunno...

LStarosta
07-16-2006, 05:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:

the images arent showing for me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif they sounded nice too!

Im glad you have such a great relationship with your son mate. I havnt met my Dad, he left when i was one, and my mother died when i was 15 too. Been on my own pretty much since, no idea how i did it. Now i am 18 nearly 19, its almost every day i debate contacting my Dad somehow. I just dont have the courage yet. It doesnt seem possible that he would want to hear from me. A wierd feeling. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey, props to you buddy. I admire you for that.

It'd be easy for me to say "give it a shot" but I know things are easier said than done. Maybe some day you'll feel the time is right. Good luck.

AVG_WarHawk
07-16-2006, 09:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
the images arent showing for me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif they sounded nice too!

Im glad you have such a great relationship with your son mate. I havnt met my Dad, he left when i was one, and my mother died when i was 15 too. Been on my own pretty much since, no idea how i did it. Now i am 18 nearly 19, its almost every day i debate contacting my Dad somehow. I just dont have the courage yet. It doesnt seem possible that he would want to hear from me. A wierd feeling. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This forum appreciates your presents. Can't see why your father wouldn't, unless he feels inadequate. I remember before my son was born how I worried, what kind of father I would make. I love my son and he loves me, that's all that matters now.

skycaptain_1
07-17-2006, 05:42 AM
Hey Danjama

My dad left home when I was twelve! He went abroad and I had no contact with him, I always wondered why he never contacted us kids I felt like he didn't care...I spoke to him again for the first time in 25yrs last year it was the best thing I ever did!! We caught up on everything and i was able to ask all the questions I wanted - for my dad also - it was a good healing time in my life..I would recommend it for you..you don't want to be left thinking what if....

S!

Lowenherz
07-17-2006, 12:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
I just dont have the courage yet. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I can understand that. In situations where I have been very emotionally tender, there are only so many times one can have hopes dashed.

But I would be very surprised if your dad doesn't wonder how you're getting along in life.

MO_JOJO
07-18-2006, 03:36 AM
Believe it or not, there are some real selfish ones out there that don't care, but they are the minority in a large group of fathers.

You young fellas are getting some good advice here, pay attention, think about what's been said, and follow your heart. You have nothing to lose in calling your papa, but if you're not ready, find someone to talk to about it until you are. The years go by quickly and there's no guarantee that your dad will always be around. The sooner you reconcile, the more years you have to enjoy each other, and I'm betting that your dads are wishing they knew how to approach you.

I lost my dad to a drunk driver when I was 7, and I'll never forget the site of him there beside our car as we wept. I grew up without a good male role model, and swore that if I ever had kids, I'd be a good dad. Well here I am with 2 kids, and I gotta tell you that it's easier said than done. My wife drives me crazy, to the point that I want to find someone else, but those 2 kids have concreted me into this marriage. I don't always like my situation, in fact it seems that most of the time I don't, but I ain't gonna put my kids through the kind of agony that I went through. I won't. It's one of the biggest contributions I can make to society...to raise good kids into good adults, who then raise good kids, etc.

And on a final word of advice, don't rush into marriage. It's a life sentence, so choose slowly, carefully, soberly, and with great discrimination. She'll thank you, and you'll all be happier for a lifetime. Peace.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

danjama
07-18-2006, 05:25 AM
Thanks for your words guys, it is alot to think about.

96th_Nightshifter
07-18-2006, 05:59 AM
Hope it works out for you Danjama - My parents split when I was 5 (long story in between this) and I never saw my old man till I was about 15, getting back in touch was a long process and was difficult to bond at first but these days (another 10 or so years on) we are best mates - we seriously talk to each other near enough every day and he has the pleasure of seeing his grandkids http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Also MO_JOJO gives good advice about not rushing into things - well I didn't quite do it like that lol but have been with my lady for over 10 years now (since High School) and I know I chose wisely http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Best of luck

WWMaxGunz
07-18-2006, 06:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lowenherz:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HotelBushranger:
Nice kid Lowenherz http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif whats his name? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Louis (pronounced Loo-Eee, for you Americans! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I guess the 60's are a bit before your time.

From 1963, find a copy of 'The Kingsmans' Louie-Louie which is a quitessential rock song.
Even into the 80's, WMMR the premium Philadelphia rock station staged an annual Louie-Louie
parade where everyone in the parade played the song on kazoos because it was so neat and easy.

Ah Louie, Louie, oh baby, me gotta now... Ai-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi!

It's even more classic than Woolie Bully.

Good name, BTW.

Lowenherz
07-18-2006, 12:00 PM
Yes, but as soon as it's spelled with an 's' like the original French, Americans would undoubtedly pronounce it "LOO-ISS". Like St Louis! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif