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sammy4657
05-05-2005, 09:39 AM
Does anyone know any really good world war one flight sims?? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

sammy4657
05-05-2005, 09:39 AM
Does anyone know any really good world war one flight sims?? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

harryklein66
05-05-2005, 09:41 AM
Red Baron II...but it's old now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

Iwatapt
05-05-2005, 10:53 AM
Also, "Flying Corps", or the VERY old "Dawn Patrol".

ytareh
05-05-2005, 10:56 AM
Have to say(admit!?) I really like Wings of War.Its quite arcadish(even missile power-ups option in weapons )The graphics are great(best WW1?)and theres a lively enough online community.Put it his way I damaged the cdrom (NB actually DVD)and had to go out and buy a new one straight away.

major_setback
05-05-2005, 11:12 AM
Knights Over Europe was scheduled for release this year but unfortunately it's been shelved!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

SHAME. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

http://www.aspectsimulations.com/Prod_KOE.htm

See the two page preview in issue 25 of PC Pilot. This WAS to have been a SIM.
ALSO try CFS2, you can add WWI aircraft!!!

Wings Of War is a lot arcadey, but its good fun with HIGHLY detailed maps/scenery (though somewhat small).

Knights Over Europe pics:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Image10.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Image08.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Image07.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Image06.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Image05.jpg


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/bImage05.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/bImage04.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/bImage03.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/bImage02.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/bImage01.jpg

Waldo.Pepper
05-05-2005, 11:55 AM
OLEG!! Save us!!

moq1
05-05-2005, 11:57 AM
Makes me want to cry whenever I see those those screenies. Still hope some one picks it up.

Moq

reisen52
05-05-2005, 12:13 PM
http://www.off.oldbrowndog.net

http://www.off.oldbrowndog.net/images/0205/SE5Cam.jpg

http://www.off.oldbrowndog.net/images/0205/infantry%20medic.jpg

http://www.off.oldbrowndog.net/images/0205/infantry07.JPG

Zeke

LEBillfish
05-05-2005, 12:28 PM
Red Baron II, has some features that are incredible...Like 1,000 men per side coming out of the trenches and attacking the other side...

However, the next version RB3d improved on the graphics dramatically. If you can find "either", as there are patches available to make RB2, RB3d, you then need to look into 2 additional items all generated by the "online" community. It also has a Campaign generator that personally I don't think has ever been beaten....What happens throughout having signifficant effect on each subsequent mission.

The first being Full Canvas Jacket, a PromisedLand add on that dramatically upgrades all the visuals. Next you need to go to JG1's site and locate the various Flanders in Flames patches, they contain planes of the likes you can only imagine. However, were all real planes, and the FM's for all planes have been altered to make them fly as real as possible.

RB3d has FMs and damage models as elaborate as here.....The final item you will need is to either find a Voodoo card or a program called "glidos"....Glidos simulates glide best it can, though really there is no substitute for a Glide/Voodoo card.

By far, RB3d is the best WWI flight sim out there....and yes it is a pity 1c is not making one to replace the now almost 10 year old sim which is no longer produced.

Look in bargain bins.

http://www.plgrafix.com/_images/plpic24.jpg

http://www.plgrafix.com/_images/plpic20.jpg

http://www.plgrafix.com/_images/ss5.jpg

http://www.plgrafix.com/_images/plpic15.jpg

Doug_Thompson
05-05-2005, 12:44 PM
Red Baron 3D has some problems running on Windows XP, but there are simple workarounds, elaborate patches and everything in between. There's a very lively on-line community, too.

I'm intrigued by the "Over Flanders Fields" possible mod to CFS3. We'll see if it pans out.

lkemling
05-05-2005, 01:50 PM
I have RB3d on the shelf at home,may have to take another gander at it,whats the problem with XP? And where would one find the work around mentioned?

EAF51_Ookami
05-05-2005, 01:52 PM
Give a look at www.swwisa.net (http://www.swwisa.net) to find some very good addons for RB3D... Starting from the Western Front Patch 6 that gives you the chance to fly even the Gothas and the HP 0/400s!

S!

Ookami

Doug_Thompson
05-05-2005, 02:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by lkemling:
I have RB3d on the shelf at home,may have to take another gander at it,whats the problem with XP? And where would one find the work around mentioned? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

First time you run it, not problem. You quit and reopen it a second time, and there's no sound.

There's a quick fix for it, but it will be much later this evening before I can get home from work and post it. Many of the patches mentioned on this thread fix the problem, too.

The simplest fix of all replaces a file with a folder, but then you can't save your preferences. You have to fly it at the highest difficulty or reset your preferences every time, which isn't really much of a problem.

rummyrum
05-05-2005, 04:20 PM
Try Targetware for an online WWI experience.

major_setback
05-06-2005, 04:17 AM
There's an add-on for CFS2 that might still be available in some places:
COMBAT ACES. (nothing to do with Combat Ace Forums).
I've only tried out a trial version which used existing CFS2 scenery. It didn't feel right flying biplanes in the Pacific. The full version includes replacement scenery textures.

Review:

http://www.netwings.org/pages/default.asp?page=review/combataces1.htm

Review 2 with screenshots:


http://www.avsim.com/pages/0801/combat_aces/combat_aces.html

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Combatacesbox.jpg



http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/airfield.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/airfield2.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/bomber.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/dvii.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/eindekker.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/frontline.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/winter.jpg

SUPERAEREO
05-06-2005, 04:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moq1:
Makes me want to cry whenever I see those those screenies. Still hope some one picks it up.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Same here, mate, same here... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif


S!

Metallicaner
05-06-2005, 04:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by reisen52:
http://www.off.oldbrowndog.net

http://www.off.oldbrowndog.net/images/0205/SE5Cam.jpg

http://www.off.oldbrowndog.net/images/0205/infantry%20medic.jpg

http://www.off.oldbrowndog.net/images/0205/infantry07.JPG

Zeke </div></BLOCKQUOTE>if that's the case, I'm gonna buy CFS3 and then this add-on! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Feathered_IV
05-06-2005, 05:03 AM
Do not buy Combat Aces. I did back before FB and it is a very poor product. The FM is nonexistant and 80% of ai planes all flutter out of the sky as soon as a mission loads up. Very ropey all round.

EJGrOst_Caspar
05-06-2005, 05:50 AM
IEN's 'Dawn of Aces' and 'Richthoven Skies' from Targetware.

Doug_Thompson
05-06-2005, 06:52 AM
I don't remember who authored this fix. Found it on the Web by searching for "Red Baron 3D Windows XP no sound"

One option:
"Each time before running the game, delete the file rbprefs.dat in your Sierra\RedBaron3D\Data directory. This file contains your game prefs for the single player game, so you will have to reset your preferences every time you play.
For multiplayer games, delete the mpprefs.dat file in your Sierra\RedBaron3D\Data\Multi directory. Again, preferences will have to be reset each time the multiplayer game starts."

Another option:
"Delete the files as above first. Then create a folder called rbprefs.dat, so it should be a folder = Sierra\RedBaron3D\Data\rbprefs.dat\ . I believe by creating a folder the same name as the file bypasses the creation of the rbprefs.dat file except in memory when you play the game.
For multiplayer games the folder should be = Sierra\RedBaron3D\Data\Multi\mpprefs.dat\."

lkemling
05-06-2005, 08:16 AM
The major problem lies in having a joystick using a USB plug rather than a GAMEPORT another fix is to unplug your usb joystick cable each time before loading RB3D once its loaded plug your usb plug back in and your good to go.
Either way a pain in the butt.
Think I'll just wait for Over Flanders Fields.

major_setback
05-06-2005, 01:02 PM
Wings of War screenshots.

Here are some screenshots that I took of the game today! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWjpeg019.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWjpeg007.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWjpeg008.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWjpeg009.jpg



http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWjpeg010b.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWjpeg017.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWjpeg004.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWjpeg005.jpg

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http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWjpeg012.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWjpeg006.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWjpeg016.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWjpeg018.jpg

GerritJ9
05-07-2005, 06:29 AM
Wings of War is disappointing. While the graphics are quite good, the other aspects of the game are poor, such as the arcade-like features- gunsight, no cockpit view etc etc. It doesn't even come close to FB/AEP/PF. I tried it for about 30 minutes, then removed it from my computer.

sammy4657
05-07-2005, 06:56 AM
Actually Gerrit you are wrong there. Although wings of war is quite arcadey, it does have a cockpit view, just press two.
I downloaded the demo yesterday and it is very fun, although did they have rockets in ww1?

rummyrum
05-07-2005, 07:06 AM
Rockets came with gunpowder which was invented centuries ago.

There are several mods for WOW even more realistic flight models. Go to the SimHq forums and look there.

major_setback
05-07-2005, 07:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GerritJ9:
Wings of War is disappointing. While the graphics are quite good, the other aspects of the game are poor, such as the arcade-like features- gunsight, no cockpit view etc etc..... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



<span class="ev_code_PINK">PATCH!!!!</span>


There is a patch/es that vastly improves the game's playability. I'll quote here from PC Pilot:

"...The detailed environment of the game has been very well recieved, but the overly 'arcade' elements less so...(after the patches) Many of these have now been fixed. You'll no longer have to wince as you fire rockets or pick up floating bonuses. Also now available are dozens of new skins, cockpit interior mods, terrain adjustments, new sound effects and plenty more..."
PC Pilot 33.

Links for downloads:



http://www.polovski.com/WoW.htm



I agree that the game comes nowhere near FB/PF, it's not supposed to be a fully realistic sim.
It can be fun though.

I must admit that I have only played WoW on a handful of occasions. The flight models are really non existant, and this is the main drawback of the game. This is a real shame, as the visuals are so immersive.
Also I paid about as much for WoW as I did for PF!!


MORE LARGE SCREENSHOTS AND WALLPAPERS!! can be found by going to the link above. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Have fun!!!

Edit: Sorry rummyrum, I didn't read your post!

Aaron_GT
05-07-2005, 07:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">although did they have rockets in ww1? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

For attacking airships they were used sometimes. Not in the way represented in the game/sim though.

jwalk2c
05-07-2005, 08:49 AM
Another game you may want to look at is SDOE by Activision.
IMHO it still has the best damage model of all.
It is a WWII sim realesed in 1998.
Used real time physics for all crashes and damage, no cut scenes.
But from what I read at some of there sites is that they are now flying WWI planes and maps.
Hope you take a look at it.
Johnny Walker

major_setback
05-07-2005, 10:19 AM
Actually there have been some very interesting modifications to the game. One of them involves the birds that fly around in the game. The modification, it seems, enables the birds to shtt on your plane!!!

(This has been edited by me for decency's sake.)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Birdshtt.jpg

major_setback
05-07-2005, 11:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jwalk2c:
Another game you may want to look at is SDOE by Activision.
IMHO it still has the best damage model of all.
It is a WWII sim realesed in 1998.
Used real time physics for all crashes and damage, no cut scenes.
But from what I read at some of there sites is that they are now flying WWI planes and maps.
Hope you take a look at it.
Johnny Walker </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is incredible. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif My first WWII sim was 'Fighter Squadron: Screamin Demons Over Europe', I found it really captivating and still run it from time to time. I love the banks of overcast clouds that they have, you can race with a Ju88 and try to get to it before it reaches that thick cloud cover. Amazing cloud and lighting effects!


I didn't realise that you could get WWI stuff for it!!
They've got Terrain re-paints, and plane packs, and a patch for the original game!

http://argonv.tripod.com/FSWWI_Page/readme.htm

http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18277&page=1&pp=10



Quote from the Aerodrome site-

"Hi Folks,

After two years in the making, the FS-WWI community is proud to release Plane Pack 4, our latest WWI add-on to Fighter Squadron: Screamin' Demons Over Europe. We hope you enjoy this free WWI mod to SDOE, and plan on joining us in the fun that is FS-WWI!

....What you get in Plane Pack 4:

44 flyable aircraft
Hi-res aircraft skins and pilots
Revamped flight models
Improved AI routine
Flyable Seaplanes
Dozens of training and single player missions as well as campaigns
Improved aircraft 3d models and cockpits
Historic WWI aero squadrons represented
Improved in-game sounds
New GUI sounds
Entirely new GUI artwork
Ability to remove World War II items from the game for a strictly WWI look!
Hyperlobby multi-player support, and......."

(Posted by FlyXwire on The Aerodrome forum).


Beware of very long download times for the textures etc.

THIS RUNS ON XP!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Albatros_Up_Close.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Camel_At_Dawn.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/DVII_Cockpit.jpg


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Spad_Above_The_Trenches.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/The_Tables_Turned.jpg

major_setback
05-07-2005, 12:07 PM
Flying Corps will now work on XP with a bit of luck.


http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19065



Anyone interested in WWI flight sims or general infor on that era of flight should look at THE AERODROME site.



http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6

sammy4657
05-07-2005, 02:30 PM
Cheers. Just a few questions about WoW.
Can you be back gunner??
How many planes are there?
What are the Campaigns like??

Just asking because im thinking of getting it...

sammy4657
05-08-2005, 04:16 AM
somebody?

major_setback
05-08-2005, 05:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sammy4657:
Cheers. Just a few questions about WoW.
Can you be back gunner??
How many planes are there?
What are the Campaigns like??

Just asking because im thinking of getting it... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Someone who's played the game more than I have should answer this really, but from my limited experience with it:


Yes, you can fly as gunner in certain misions. (From the manual):

" TURRET VIEW. On some missions you will be required to man the guns set in various locations to help defend an objective. Gun posts can be on trains, ballons, trucks or even Allied installations. Some locations will have more than one gun post that you can use. On the flight instruments you will be able to see the number of gun posts you have at your disposal...."

Photo recon:
"When on a reconnaissance photograph mission pressing the primary fire button in this view will allow you to take a photo. "

Level Bombing:
(continued from above) "You can use this view to conduct level bombing...."

General:

I am using the <span class="ev_code_PINK">1.2 PATCHED VERSION.</span>

The game runs VERY smoothly (P4 3.06MHz, Ti4600, 512 RAM).
You have the choice of quick action or playing a campaign.
Campaigns work (with the patch that I have) on a levels basis. You have to complete a misssion in order to go to the next (EDIT: I'm unsure about this!!) . More aircraft are released for play the further up the levels you get. You start with a very limited selection!!!!

Even in Campaign mode the action starts right away. You will be constantly fighting off attacks as you try to complete your objectives. You will have a whole series of objectives to complete in every mission.

A voice tells you what the next objective is.
If you crash you can re-start from (I think) the last objective that you completed. The same goes if you exit the game (all is not lost).
EDIT: I think that you have to achieve A NUMBER of objectives before a 'save point' is created which can be returned to after exiting the game, or after you've been shot down.

It can be difficult at times to fully understand what is required to achieve a 'mission completed'. On my first campaign mission I thought that I had completed all the assigned objectives, but the mission wouldn't end. I ended up frustratingly shooting at all possible targets in an effort to get the misssion to stop. (It's still saved uncompleted). This is extremely frustrating, as getting to the higher levels releases more planes.


<span class="ev_code_PINK">AIRCRAFT AND BALLOONS</span> in the 1.2 PATCHED version: (Sorry that I cut off their tails!!)

Note that two jets are included!! The (A10?) Warthog and (F22) Raptor. I dont know how these figure into the game.


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa39.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa38.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa37.jpg

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http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa34.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa33.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa32.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa31.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa30.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa29.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa28.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa27.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa26.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa25.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa24.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa23.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa22.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa21.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa20.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa19.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa18.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa17.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa16.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa15.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa14.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa12.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa11.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa10.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa09.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa08.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa07.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa03.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa04.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa05.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa06.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa01.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/WoWa02.jpg

major_setback
05-08-2005, 06:25 AM
Here are some better pics of SOME of the planes. Taken from the unofficial WoW site:


http://wow.gamecenter.cz/eng/index.htm



http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Walfisch.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Whiff.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Spade.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Scout.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Otter.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Fighter.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Fenrisb.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Corporalb.jpg

Aaron_GT
05-08-2005, 07:06 AM
What are the flight models like?

major_setback
05-08-2005, 07:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Aaron_GT:
What are the flight models like? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


There is a Wings of War forum at SimHQ, I had a quick look and saw that there was a question on flight models.


http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum;f=116;hardset=0;start_poi nt=0;DaysPrune=0



Personally I feel that the flight models aren't anyway near what you get with FB/PF. I have yet to stall or spin a plane! These are however (I'm informed) an improvement on the ones that came with the initial release. I can't recall how the game played straight from the box. I know I was a little dissapointed, I really hope that there is a chance for further improvement.
Really it's not too bad now. Success in the game is definately dependant on piloting skills.

I don't recommend the game to anyone who is looking for a WWI version of FB/PF, you will be greatly dissapointed.

I recommend it to anyone who is interested in WWI aircraft and the history of that era. Also the scenery and object detail is of a high standard, it can be fun just exploring the maps.

I'll quote from the PC Pilot review:

""...For a start there's the ravishing scenery. This reviewer has sampled every major combat flight sim released during the past decade and can honestly say that, out of the box, none has ever re-created terrain quite so successfully...you can point out that the maps in the likes of Forgoten Battles can't be traversed in a couple of minutes (ed. unlike in WoW)) but that doesn't make WoW's factories and marshalling yards, cornfields, copses and higgeldy-piggeldy villages any less lovely....
....It's great to be surrounded by detail like moving throttles and control rods....
....Bombers are just about the only machines that seem to handle with suitable heft...The smaller warbirds have their idiosyncrasies (though these are blurred somewhat by the lack of torque, airframe stress and spins) but share a sprightliness that is not completely historical....as long as you go with the flow and embrace the fantasy it's all rather fun...the combination of lively AI and varied plane extinctions can - in contrast to the sortie structures - be very persuasive indeed."
Tom Sutton-Taylor PC Pilot Nr 31.


I have limited experience of the game, so try the link above for more detailed info from experienced players. I am merely trying to draw attention to a game from an era that has (sadly) to a great extent been overlooked in the flight sim market.

major_setback.

JaggedRaven
05-08-2005, 10:22 PM
Don't know if this helps...but I've got a copy of Wings of War and I've been playing it since it came out. First off...If you want historical acuracy...get another game. It is 100% arcade and unless you can go with the flow and enjoy playstation-esque gameplay you'll hate it. You have unlimited ammunition (although guns will overheat) standard which cannot be changed...nor would you be able to finish a single mission if you did (I'm guessing somewhere in the neighborhood of 4,000 rounds per mission required http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif). FM is non existant and the only difference in performance is between fighters and bombers. An eindecker can go toe to toe with late war fighters...what's up with that? AI respawns constantly...and the game world is too "busy"...everything is going on at the same time and it's very hard to complete special objectives without being in two places at once. In short it's unrealistic and an arcade game lover's dream.
However, that being said...VERY COOL and VERY FUN to play! The attention to detail is spectacular and you will find yourself lost in the environment and the story if you use your imagination (try barnstorming...nothing more hilarious than misgudging your wingspan and shearing off both your wings and the slpit second of panic that ensues http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. You also get a lot of flyable aircraft that other simulators don't even model in AI straight out of the box, which I thought was groovy. Secondly...I have several mods for the game that recently came out (mentioned in a previous post) that get rid of the arcade power-ups and tweak the FMs to make them more reaistic...and more historically believable. The only downside is that they affect Instant action which is nothing like the QMB in FB/PF. But, if you're a WWI nut like myself you'll still want to buy this game.

I laughed, I cried, I got a coke from the fridge and played some more.

Two Thumbs up http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

JR

HotelBushranger
05-09-2005, 04:30 AM
Thanks for the tip JaggedRaven, know any places where I can get it? Cheers

sammy4657
05-09-2005, 11:40 AM
Just a few more! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
Are there only german and british planes?
Are the patches you have official?
How many firing posts does the airship l33 have?!?

Cheers! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

major_setback
05-10-2005, 01:25 AM
The patch I have installed is the 1.2 official patch:

http://www.polovski.com/FAQ/patches.htm

I have read somewhere that there may be a 1.22 patch, I searched for a good while yesterday but couldn't find one. This may have been a missprint (I think I read about it in one of the forums). If anyone knows about such a patch then please let me know, and please send a link! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

sammy, you might try the forum link for more game info (see earlier posts in this thread). http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif or try

http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=next_topic;f=116;t=000690;go=ol der


The plane list that I posted above is the full list for patch 1.2. (posted 8 May).


Good luck with your search for further info.

By the way this might be of interest, there is a downloadable mission where you can, (according to the download site) try to destroy a couple of Dora cannons. Though I doubt if this is historically accurate!


http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/8781045813/p/3

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/8781045813

major_setback
05-10-2005, 01:51 AM
Good news about Knights Over Europe. I mentioned earlier that the project had been shelved, it now looks like the sim may be resurrected in a scaled down version. This quote is from 'The Aerodrome' website:

http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19956


BY: Xeidos2


"Here's the condensed version of what happened. And what happens next.

Even though we had met all contract obligations up to March 2004, the publisher, Destineer, broke their contract with Aspect Simulations and all work on KOE stopped. Take Two had a strong position of influence over the decisions made at Destineer. A few months later Take Two, through it's company The Gathering, released Wings of War.

Aspect Simulations is dissolved. Two of it's former members start work on "Project A" Once Project A is completed it will be sold over the internet. With the proceeds from Project A, the two will go back and take the assets developed for KOE and come out with a WW1 flight sim. It will be on a smaller scale than the original plans for KOE because of limited resources. The focus will be on quality over quantity.

Xeidos 2
former 3d/2d artist for Aspect SImulations
currently in over his head trying desparately to get Project A finished"


major_setback http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Doug_Thompson
05-10-2005, 07:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Even though we had met all contract obligations up to March 2004, the publisher, Destineer, broke their contract with Aspect Simulations and all work on KOE stopped. Take Two had a strong position of influence over the decisions made at Destineer. A few months later Take Two, through it's company The Gathering, released Wings of War. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's the view of one side, so nobody can take it as gospel, but it certainly would explain a lot.

Blutarski2004
05-10-2005, 10:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by major_setback:
Good news about Knights Over Europe. I mentioned earlier that the project had been shelved, it now looks like the sim may be resurected in a scaled down version. This quote is from 'The Aerodrome' website:

http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19956


BY: Xeidos2


"Here's the condensed version of what happened. And what happens next.

Even though we had met all contract obligations up to March 2004, the publisher, Destineer, broke their contract with Aspect Simulations and all work on KOE stopped. Take Two had a strong position of influence over the decisions made at Destineer. A few months later Take Two, through it's company The Gathering, released Wings of War.

Aspect Simulations is dissolved. Two of it's former members start work on "Project A" Once Project A is completed it will be sold over the internet. With the proceeds from Project A, the two will go back and take the assets developed for KOE and come out with a WW1 flight sim. It will be on a smaller scale than the original plans for KOE because of limited resources. The focus will be on quality over quantity.

Xeidos 2
former 3d/2d artist for Aspect SImulations
currently in over his head trying desparately to get Project A finished"


major_setback http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


...... That's very good news. Ive been itching for a good new WW1 sim ever since RB. Hopefully KOE will make it to publication after all.

I had argued long and hard that the original KOE development team should focus on completing an achievable package (say 1917) and successfully get it to market, then follow up with separate additional modules, 1918 for example, then 1916. The developers never the less chose to go for it all in one package.

major_setback
05-10-2005, 12:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by major_setback:

I have read somewhere that there may be a 1.22 patch, (ed. for WoW) I searched for a good while yesterday but couldn't find one... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



It's here( http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif ) of course:

http://rain.prohosting.com/katipo/wow_patch.htm


and other mods:

http://www.polovski.com/FAQ/mods.htm#WOWMOD

ytareh
05-10-2005, 02:12 PM
None of the gunners positions on planes or airships are "flyable"-shame but still as JRaven said an absolute blast of a game.

major_setback
05-10-2005, 02:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ytareh:
None of the gunners positions on planes or airships are "flyable"-shame but still as JRaven said an absolute blast of a game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


<span class="ev_code_PINK">"TAKE CONTROL OF ANTI-AIRCRAFT GUNS MOUNTED ON TRAINS, ZEPPELINS, BOATS.."</span>

I think you might find that as you advance in the game these options become available!! See here:

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/wings-of-war/?fromint=1


This is from the review at GameSpy:


"Wings of War puts gamers in the cockpit of over 25 Allied and German aircraft in massive air battles and bombing runs across the vast landscape of war torn Europe. Players take on hordes of enemy aircraft in detailed planes or take control of anti-aircraft guns mounted on trains, zeppelins, boats and more... "

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

heywooood
05-10-2005, 09:52 PM
KOE looked like it was done....I hope it does make it - scaled down or not.

http://www.theaerodrome.com/images/aircraft/germany/albatros_diii.jpg

major_setback
05-11-2005, 08:08 AM
These movies made using TrackIR show how good WoW can be when fully patched!!

Highly recommended. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.polovski.com/Movies/WoW%20Movies/WoW_TrackIR3-1.wmv

http://www.polovski.com/Movies/WoW%20Movies/WoW_TrackIR3-2.wmv


And try this..

http://www.polovski.com/Movies/WoW%20Movies/dawnpatrolgross.WMV



From this site:


http://www.polovski.com/Movies/WoW%20Movies/movies.htm

sammy4657
05-12-2005, 10:12 AM
Hey! I found a targetware mod for ww1! get it here (http://www.richthofens-skies.com/index.html)

sammy4657
05-12-2005, 10:25 AM
some screenies...
http://www.richthofens-skies.com/rs_gallery/images/rs_screenshots038.jpg http://www.richthofens-skies.com/rs_gallery/images/rs_screenshots039.jpg http://www.richthofens-skies.com/rs_gallery/images/rs_screenshots032.jpg http://www.richthofens-skies.com/rs_gallery/images/rs_screenshots031.jpg http://www.richthofens-skies.com/rs_gallery/images/rs_screenshots026.jpg

Looks good! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif