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LStarosta
02-07-2005, 01:28 PM
http://home.comcast.net/~l.starosta/fat.jpg

Interesting. I bet there are some of us who wish they knew that when they were a child, albeit an illiterate one who couldn't possibly decipher this report. Then again, isn't that why we have parents? C'mon guys! Keep your kids from growing into walking wreckingballs! Good habits such as a healthy diet and plenty of activity start at an early age!

We, as Americans, have the patriotic duty to pass the title of the "Fattest Country in the World" to Australia or something. LETS GET A MOVE ON!!!

LStarosta
02-07-2005, 01:28 PM
http://home.comcast.net/~l.starosta/fat.jpg

Interesting. I bet there are some of us who wish they knew that when they were a child, albeit an illiterate one who couldn't possibly decipher this report. Then again, isn't that why we have parents? C'mon guys! Keep your kids from growing into walking wreckingballs! Good habits such as a healthy diet and plenty of activity start at an early age!

We, as Americans, have the patriotic duty to pass the title of the "Fattest Country in the World" to Australia or something. LETS GET A MOVE ON!!!

steve_v
02-07-2005, 01:40 PM
bad link http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

LStarosta
02-07-2005, 01:42 PM
Works for me...

Will rehost...

BaldieJr
02-07-2005, 01:42 PM
I don't share your enthusiasm for this topic.

adlabs6
02-07-2005, 02:02 PM
I don't worry about it. I just try to live in moderation.

Friendly_flyer
02-07-2005, 02:23 PM
Some of us actually knew Coke was bad. Didn't help though.

Jasko76
02-07-2005, 02:34 PM
You just keep feeding your kids with those fatburgers... and they'll all look like those freaks on Ricky Lake Show! Wreckingballs http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

GreyBeast
02-07-2005, 02:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Friendly_flyer:
Some of us actually knew Coke was bad. Didn't help though. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Coke ain´t bad at all, mate. It´s just too **** expensive. And it ain´t fattening either, ´cause it makes you lose your appetite and wanna dance and mostly run off the mouth the whole night long. Coke is bad for your teeth, though, unless of course, if you´re chewing gum. If you´re not, you´ll be chewing your gums.

Sorry LStarosta, didn´t mean to screw up your thread. I´m in bed with a fever and I couldn´t resist... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Jasko76
02-07-2005, 02:42 PM
GreyBeast

Exactly what isthe beast in your sig? Looks darn cool!

horseback
02-07-2005, 02:51 PM
Actually, the real danger is the "electronic babysitters", TV and video games. My ex is a huge advocate of sleeping late or taking naps while the boys watch every imaginable animated/simulated dross unsupervised. She lacks the ambition to take them to a local park or stay awake to keep an eye on them while they play with friends in the neighborhood.

The unfortunate reality of child molesters and worse have made the chances of my pre-teeners being let loose to roam even in the local area the way I did at that age absolutely nil. Even though my eleven year old has his first level black belt, at 65 lbs, he is simply not safe from an adult predator.

My kids say they enjoy our weekends together more when they get to go to the local science museum/center or for a hike in the local mountains for the afternoon more than a day at Disneyland or Knott's Berry Farm, and believe me, my budget can stand the relief.

Laziness begins at home, folks, and it takes a couple of years to program a preschooler to prefer to sit on his ever growing backside and watch TV or play video games with his little brain in neutral. Get'em outside. God knows we need the exposure to fresh air and sunshine almost as much as our kids do.

cheers

horseback

Weather_Man
02-07-2005, 03:22 PM
These scare tactics don't bother me. I've got the metabolism of a hummingbird on crack. I'm sure my spawn would be able to handle fructose injections without worry as well.

MEGILE
02-07-2005, 03:33 PM
Fat people should eat less.
Parents should not feed their kids junk.. bad parenting, be sure.

SpartanHoplite
02-07-2005, 03:52 PM
Man, when I was a kid, I must have consumed a full pitcher of Kool Aide every day. I wasn't fat, because I actually played sports in the winter and my parents had to practically force my sister and me to come home at night, I didn't have ADD and was a good student.

Now, my sister's kids have to be forced outside, away from their video games. I agree with a previous poster that parents are at the centre of the blame - they don't encourage their kids to participate enough, and what's worse, they are turning their kids into sissies. My nephew is almost 10, and he still needs permission from my sister to cross the street and go to the park to play - my sister is worried about something bad happening to him, or something, and excuses it with "it's not the same as when we were kids"... RIGHT! Statistically, its safer now in North America than in the 80s, when I was growing up - and when my parents only had the vaguest idea (if that) of where I was for hours at a time. Yet parents have convinced themselves that their kids are in danger.... And my sister lives in about the safest little suburban area in the world. man... Let your kids run around and play - they are going to be the fattest, parent-dependent adult generation in 15 years...

SH

Jagdgeschwader2
02-07-2005, 03:53 PM
I wish I had the luxury to sit around and eat all bloody day. If all those people had my schedule they would not be fat. Inactivity is the real killer. There really is a world outside your door.


http://home.earthlink.net/~jagdgeschwader26/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/jagdgeschwader2s.jpg

LStarosta
02-07-2005, 04:11 PM
Right and wrong, Megile.

If you simply eat less, your body will actually store whatever energy you do consume, whether in the form of fat or carbohydrates as body fat. The trick is to eat bad things sparingly, and to eat good things in abundance so you don't feel hungry during the day. Last thing you wanna do is starve yourself.


I think the point of this study was to be a big eye opener for parents who thought that things such as 100% fruit juice must be good for their kids since it's 100% natural. In fact if a kid sits at home in front of a T.V. or the computer (and I know that both can be addicting) while slurping on NOT ONLY soda, but fruit juice or other sugary beverages, then he/she is really wasting him or herself away.

The full report stated that children who live in low to middle income families where parents are at work a lot of the time or otherwise unable to supervise their children, have a significantly higher chance of becoming overweight or obese. This is due to several things stemming from the fact that parents must work: parents cannot urge their kids to exercise, parents often stock up on things such as soda, juice, snacks etc for kids to eat while they're not home, parents often leave money for pizza etc when they can't cook a meal.

While we know that parents MUST work to support their families, taking simple steps can significantly help keep their kids healthy:

Enroll your kids in an after school program. They will be able to have fun, stay out of trouble, and stay active under supervision, even when you are at work.

Prepare healthful snacks for your children. Include fruits and vegetables on a platter, saran wrapped for freshness, and leave it at the very edge of the fridge so it's the first thing your child sees.

Refrain from buying chips, cookies, or other snacks. They are addictive, full of transfat, and offer no nutritional benefits. If your kid wants something to snack on, microwave popcorn is a much better choice than Doritos or Lays.

Encourage your kids to drink water and milk instead of soda or juice. It may be difficult, especially with younger kids, but if they want something sweet, that's what the fruit your prepared for them earlier is for. The fruit in 100% fruit juice is of an inferior quality than whole fruit.

And I think the most important thing of all is explaining to your kids that they can eat anything they want, as long as they do so with moderation. If you just simply cut pizza, burgers, chips etc out of their diet completely, they will be longing for these foods forever, and when they do finally get them, they'll have an eating binge. Not good. A few slices of pizza once in a while never killed anyone.


I know that many parents probably already know this, but there may be some people who didn't know something. I really hope we start shaping our future by shaping our kids to be healthy individuals both mentally and physically. The present obesity rates are astounding!

adlabs6
02-07-2005, 04:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LStarosta:

Refrain from buying chips, cookies, or other snacks. They are addictive, full of transfat, and offer no nutritional benefits. If your kid wants something to snack on, microwave popcorn is a much better choice than Doritos or Lays.

Encourage your kids to drink water and milk instead of soda or juice. It may be difficult, especially with younger kids, but if they want something sweet, that's what the fruit your prepared for them earlier is for. The fruit in 100% fruit juice is of an inferior quality than whole fruit.

And I think the most important thing of all is explaining to your kids that they can eat anything they want, as long as they do so with moderation. If you just simply cut pizza, burgers, chips etc out of their diet completely, they will be longing for these foods forever, and when they do finally get them, they'll have an eating binge. Not good. A few slices of pizza once in a while never killed anyone.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My sentiments exactly. Banning bad foods with an iron fist only makes them more desirable. I've been snickered at for just eating a single slice of pizza with a soda for lunch, when my brother and dad would each eat half a large pizza for lunch. I luv pizza, but I don't have to eat half a PizzaHut large to be happy. Consider a kid I knew growing up, he measured his "getting bigger" by whether he could finish a BigMac at lunch. Later in high school he was proud of being able to finish two BigMacs during his lunch. He was overweight by that time.

I know both adults and children who think drinking a glass of water is stupid unless you are running a marathon or something. I once served a glass of fresh drinking water to a guest and watched him nearly gag and ask for soda instead.

I really think some part of it comes down to the mind, and what we are in a habit of doing.

ytareh
02-07-2005, 05:05 PM
Surely (while I respect anybodies right to discuss whatever they like here!) this is hardly a fitness forum!Like, this has got to be one of the unhealthiest (legal!)pastimes.I got into it about 6 months ago and have already suffered with numb fingers(cant imagine what 'force feedback' would be like!),serious back ache,hypertension at Post PF Crashes(!) not to mention the pretty weird issue of feeling fairly "spaced out"(fellow road users as 'bogeys'etc) -on the rare occassions Id leave the house-after marathon IL2 sessions in the first couple of weeks after I got into the game.Needless to say hours sleep and bedtime are somewhat changed (!) too...Have given up competitive cycling and running now once a week at most.But heck didnt a guy say the game was cited in his divorce case here!

Tully__
02-07-2005, 05:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SpartanHoplite:
...they are going to be the fattest, parent-dependent adult generation in 15 years...

SH <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

In 1500 years more likely.

Lucius_Esox
02-07-2005, 06:19 PM
I have just read this thread and freaked out!! Like reading one of these things saying signs of depression etc in a mag. I'm reading going yeah, yeah, yeah, OMG it's me!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Not trying to hijack this thread but THE very worst thing for me about IL2 is MY physical condition vis a vis since I started playing it way back when it first came out. I've got carporal tract, knackered back, sure my eyes have sufferd big time, and hate to think about my cardo vascular.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif I think I will have to try and lead by example http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SpartanHoplite
02-07-2005, 09:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tully__:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SpartanHoplite:
...they are going to be the fattest, parent-dependent adult generation in 15 years...

SH <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

In 1500 years more likely. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Allow me to reword that - 15 years from now, they will be the fattest, parent-dependent adult generation (ever).

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

WTE_Galway
02-07-2005, 09:23 PM
get teh kids a pilots licence and aerobatic rating

then they will HAVE to be fit

altstiff
02-08-2005, 12:48 AM
Two words of advice for all of you.

Pizza, Beer.

Nough said.........

WTE_Ibis
02-08-2005, 04:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
get teh kids a pilots licence and aerobatic rating

then they will HAVE to be fit <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Beer and pizza rainbowed all over the cockpit http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif .

Freycinet
02-08-2005, 05:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by horseback:
The unfortunate reality of child molesters and worse have made the chances of my pre-teeners being let loose to roam even in the local area the way I did at that age absolutely nil. Even though my eleven year old has his first level black belt, at 65 lbs, he is simply not safe from an adult predator. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't know if what you say has anything to do with reality, but if it does, then it is truly a sad place/country you live in.

Here in Denmark there's no need to worry about that at all so kids play out unsupervised all the time, ride the bike to school, etc., etc. It would be intolerable otherwise, you have my sympathy if it not possible where you live, that must be terrible.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
02-08-2005, 06:23 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/tHeBaLrOgRoCkS/3aacad123b8b5.jpg

I dare anyone to try and grow an extra ar$e around this guy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

altstiff
02-08-2005, 09:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tHeBaLrOgRoCkS:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/tHeBaLrOgRoCkS/3aacad123b8b5.jpg

I dare anyone to try and grow an extra ar$e around this guy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ARE YOU ALLOWED TO HAVE JELLY DONUTS PRIVATE PYLE?

That's great! Hehe, too funny.

GreyBeast
02-08-2005, 01:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jasko76:
GreyBeast

Exactly what isthe beast in your sig? Looks darn cool! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey Jasko!

That "beast" is the Sukhoi T-4. I don´t really know much about it so I won´t even tell you the few things I THINK I know, in case they aren´t 100% correct http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Fact is, though, that I think it's either a copy of the U.S.'s XB-70 Valkyrie or the latter was actually a "copy" of the T-4. If I recall correctly, it flew above Mach 3 and the eeriest part of it all was that in supersonic flight the nose tilted up (like Concorde) and left the pilots in absolute darkness. Here's a pretty cool link, you might find more in-depth information on the aircraft.

http://www.moninoaviation.com/24a.html

LStarosta
02-08-2005, 01:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
get teh kids a pilots licence and aerobatic rating

then they will HAVE to be fit <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Most pilots I know have an extra keg hanging off their abdominals...

womenfly
02-08-2005, 02:05 PM
gives a completely new meaning to the term .... "Gross Weight" ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

PBNA-Boosher
02-08-2005, 03:58 PM
I weigh just about 195-200 pounds now. Now, I know that different things work for different people, but I've found that if I eat when I feel hungry (and I mean stomach growling) that I can keep my weight the same, or if I take in a little less when I eat, I can lose a few pounds quite easily. I'm a pretty active person. I dance every day for the play, I work out and exercise 4 days a week, (one day devoted to cardio) and I also eat whatever I want, in moderation.

We as a nation shouldn't just want to lose weight, we should be wanting to replace some of that fat with muscle too.

Dammerung
02-08-2005, 05:17 PM
I'm a skinny bastard. Always have been. I'm 5'3", 16 yrs, and 105lbs on a good day. If people want to, they can loose weight, I need to gain it, however. Isnt working out great for me though.

ganondorf29
02-08-2005, 05:37 PM
Im actually pretty light. 5'11" and 145lbs. It probably has something to do with playing school basketball and eating Flavor Blasted Goldfish

altstiff
02-08-2005, 09:53 PM
I'm 5'2" and 365.

AlGroover
02-10-2005, 05:31 AM
Headline in our local newspaper on a page facing reports on international conflicts. "Government declares war on obesity".
Now that worries me......

HotelBushranger
02-10-2005, 05:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>We, as Americans, have the patriotic duty to pass the title of the "Fattest Country in the World" to Australia or something. LETS GET A MOVE ON!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bugger off! We're not having it! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

As to bad parenting, for me there is quite a contrast. My father is about 130 kgs, at 46 I think, and couldn't exercise if his life depended on it. My mother, on the other hand, never buys any soft drinks, no chips, the occasional Tim Tam for cuppas, most of the time makes lunches, dinners, etc. Haven't been to a fast food restaraunt for dinner, in about 3/4 years. I've only been a couple times last year, because it was Air Rec/Drill Squad practise and we went out for lunch, and only once this year because it was my mates birthday.

I exercise by doing laps at the pool for an hour, maybe 5 times a week, but it's gone down because I'm back in school, (and broke my finger http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif), but I've got 3 sport subjects, so that'll keep me fit http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif got back from rockclimbing today, awesome fun.

14 yrs, 50 kgs, 159 cms.

Cheers

Heavy_Weather
02-10-2005, 06:49 AM
ever since i saw that movie "Super Sized" i havent ate at McDonalds since, and never will again. it definitely gives you a different outlook on fast foods.

CWH1089
02-10-2005, 08:58 AM
this topic somewhat scary to me, though i shouldn't be too worried with me being 5'6 115 lbs and sports being a big part of my life. like what everyone else has said, limit the junk food, eat lots of fruit and veggies, and get up and get outside. starving yourself is probably the worst thing you could do if you're looking to lose weight; you'll be feeling like crud and could lose muscle mass.
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