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Andrew_H
09-07-2009, 06:23 AM
Just though I'd say hello, I'm fairly new to IL2 and I'm starting to get into online play although I'm getting blown to pieces most of the time. Hopefully I'll get the hang of it with more practice, but it's difficult even on the beginner servers. I've settled on the Spit Mk VIII as my favourite plane although I'm enjoying trying a variety of others, especially some of the bombers. Pity there isn't a Lancaster in the game though. I'd like to get to grips with the energy fighters but I keep getting drawn into turning fights (if I survive the first pass, lol!).

Andrew_H
09-07-2009, 06:23 AM
Just though I'd say hello, I'm fairly new to IL2 and I'm starting to get into online play although I'm getting blown to pieces most of the time. Hopefully I'll get the hang of it with more practice, but it's difficult even on the beginner servers. I've settled on the Spit Mk VIII as my favourite plane although I'm enjoying trying a variety of others, especially some of the bombers. Pity there isn't a Lancaster in the game though. I'd like to get to grips with the energy fighters but I keep getting drawn into turning fights (if I survive the first pass, lol!).

The_Stealth_Owl
09-07-2009, 06:58 AM
Hello! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



The spit VIII is probably teh best in the game besides the XIV.


I think you can get a lancester at this one site, its forbiden to talk abouit though becaus it promotes game mods.


am glad you figured out how to play online, more power to you.



Have a good time here. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



Owl

AndyJWest
09-07-2009, 06:59 AM
I think I've seen you online in the same server as me in the last day or so (unless someone else is using the same name). I was in the same position as you six weeks or so ago, with no online experience, and it does take some getting used to. I find the thing that helped me most in the initial stages was a sense of humour, as I kept doing daft things, and actually getting to land was a rarity. I think I'm getting better, slowly, and at least now I'm not colliding with my target quite as often: I still tend to lose tactical awareness in a dogfight and not realise I'm a sitting duck for other enemy aircraft - this is something I need to work on.

I'd recommend not always flying on the same server, especially if you only use one with easy settings, like 'spins and stalls off'. Though this does make the initial learning curve a bit easier, you can get into bad habits, especially if you are aiming to move up to harder servers later.

As for the energy fighters, well firstly as someone wrote in a topic recently 'all fighters are energy fighters' and even in a Spit or a Ki-84, you need to be aware of your energy state. Zoom and Boom tactics on a server with easy settings can be a bit frustrating too, as your target is much more likely to see you coming. Still, if you can spot me in a dogfight, Zoom and Boom will usually fill me full of holes...

Mostly, it comes down to practice, and to thinking afterwards about where you went wrong - that and not letting frustration get to you. See you online...

Xiolablu3
09-07-2009, 08:21 AM
Talking about mods is fine, posting pics of them is fine, but asking for support for them is not. Nor requesting mods, or posting direct links.

I think there is some confusion right now about what is OK and what is not.

Basically we dont mind mod talk, but this is not a 'mod site'. Therefore we do not 'help' people to find nor make mods. That is for AAA.

Xiolablu3
09-07-2009, 08:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Andrew_H:
Just though I'd say hello, I'm fairly new to IL2 and I'm starting to get into online play although I'm getting blown to pieces most of the time. Hopefully I'll get the hang of it with more practice, but it's difficult even on the beginner servers. I've settled on the Spit Mk VIII as my favourite plane although I'm enjoying trying a variety of others, especially some of the bombers. Pity there isn't a Lancaster in the game though. I'd like to get to grips with the energy fighters but I keep getting drawn into turning fights (if I survive the first pass, lol!). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Spitfire VIII had a nice increased fuel load and was almost entirely sent overseas to Malta, Africa and the Pacific, where this increased load was more crucial.

If you like the SPitfire VIII, then the SPitfire 25lbs is one better. But its really a 1945 plane.

Spitfire IXc (in game, its a IXc LF really) - 1943

Spitfire VIII mid 1943 onwards.

Spit IXe - 1944

Spit IX 25lb - 1945

The_Stealth_Owl
09-07-2009, 09:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">If you like the SPitfire VIII, then the SPitfire 25lbs is one better. But its really a 1945 plane </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I disagree, they are really the same plane, only the spitVIII has more horsepower. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I'd go with the VIII if I were you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Andrew_H
09-07-2009, 09:47 AM
I tried the Spit IX but it stalls a lot more than the VIII, in fact it nearly put me off the Spitfire all together until I found the Mk8. The Me109 is easy to fly too, it seems to climb a bit better than the Spit but I can't get it to turn quite as well.

I quite like flying the Beaufighter and torpedoing ships too, but it's a bit of a chore plodding back to base after a single shot. I noticed the He111 can carry two but it drops them both at the same time, doh! The P38 is a cool aeroplane, but I'm mincemeat in it unless I find another twin to have a scrap with.

The main problem I'm having is my gunnery, people blast me out of the sky with a single shot whereas I have to chase someone for 1-2 mins to get a kill and by then someone else is usually hot on my tail. That should improve with practice I guess, I've noticed I'm now using a lot less ammo to get a kill.

Andy - yes indeed we're using the same server, the message "Andrew_H was blown out of the sky by Andy" appears on my screen all too often, lol!

Anyhow I'm enjoying the learning curve so I don't mind struggling for a while, I dunno how any new pilots survived their first missions in real life if it was like this!

AndyJWest
09-07-2009, 10:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Andy - yes indeed we're using the same server, the message "Andrew_H was blown out of the sky by Andy" appears on my screen all too often, lol! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think I've only got you a couple of times at most, there were three Andys flying at the same time, which got confusing. If you fly bombers on that server, without an escort, you will be a sitting duck for anyone who knows how to climb above 1000m (some seem to prefer not to). I'd try a Spit, an La-7, or a Ki-84 - so-called 'uber-planes' but all the noobs fly them, and you can at least dodge the oncoming gunfire occasionally.

I hadn't noticed the difference in stalling characteristics between the two Spits, I'll try them both myself and see if I can see it. One thing to remember is to set fuel to 50%, it makes a lot of difference to manouvrability.

Erkki_M
09-07-2009, 10:08 AM
Andy_H, not quite I think. All WW2 pilots had at least a hunred(or so) of flying hours; and of this some dozen hours at least in their combat aircraft. Also in real war pilots cared about their survival, and G forces restricted maneuvering more or less more than they do in IL-2. Also cold had its effects. Air battles between squads took long and usually took fairly little casualties on both sides, at least compared to what one might think after playing flight sims such as il2, ah, wb etc.

Xiolablu3
09-07-2009, 02:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by The_Stealth_Owl:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">If you like the SPitfire VIII, then the SPitfire 25lbs is one better. But its really a 1945 plane </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I disagree, they are really the same plane, only the spitVIII has more horsepower. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I'd go with the VIII if I were you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd check the performance of each again if I were you.

The 25lbs IX SPit has a better climb and is faster below the full throttle height.

Andrew_H
09-08-2009, 02:15 AM
Thanks for the responses, I'll certainly keep practising. Point taken re 'all fighters are energy fighters' which makes good sense. I've been reading up on tactics from the various posts on here a lot of which is fascinating, but putting it into practice is quite a challenge. As long as I'm gradually improving I'll be happy. Anyhow I'll be back online at the weekend, cu then.

MD_Titus
09-08-2009, 01:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by The_Stealth_Owl:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">If you like the SPitfire VIII, then the SPitfire 25lbs is one better. But its really a 1945 plane </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I disagree, they are really the same plane, only the spitVIII has more horsepower. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I'd go with the VIII if I were you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

no they really are different. i've a lot of time in all marks of spits, and well... yeah they fly a lot differently. a squadmate tuned his stick settings so they worked for him in a mark VIII, as he felt it was the twitchiest of the spit marks. i'm inclined to agree, certainly one of the best, but it has it's quirks. a propensity to snap into a stall from tight turns,seems less prone to blackouts when compared to the 25lber. both are fast as hell, but i'd say that the 25lber is faster across most altitudes.

i'll take a moment to suggest the uk dedicated 1,2 and 3 servers. if you are uk based and want historically based missions, sensible planes sets and server admins who are friendly and have a sense of humour. settings vary from open pit and externals (1) closed pit with externals (2) and full switch (3). motto is gaming for grownups, so asshattery is kept to a minimum and swiftly dealt with.

Sillius_Sodus
09-08-2009, 07:50 PM
You might also find it helpful to join an online squadron. Check out the IL2 Squadrons forum. Fellow squad members will be able to help you progress a lot faster, and cover you in the servers.