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bogusheadbox
08-01-2005, 07:26 AM
As it says in the title.

Is the X 52 overkill or for the reduced price, would a cyborg evo be the better buy ?

bogusheadbox
08-01-2005, 07:26 AM
As it says in the title.

Is the X 52 overkill or for the reduced price, would a cyborg evo be the better buy ?

3.JG51_BigBear
08-01-2005, 08:10 AM
I switched from the evo to the X-52 a couple weeks ago and I never looked back. The EVO is a great value stick with a lot of buttons (especially with the shift feature). The X-52 can handle infinitely more functions and also has sliders for trim and prop pitch management. The X-52 is more precise in both the joystick and throttle. I think both sticks are excellent values and it really depends on your budget and how much you play the sim.

Tully__
08-01-2005, 08:11 AM
It depends on your budget and how dedicated you are to having the best flying experience. For the casual PC pilot, the evo is fine. For the more dedicated among us something with the feature level of the X-52 is imperative. The really dedicated go even further, buying the full suite of CH Products controllers (FlightStick, Pro Throttle & Pro Pedals).

I have the X-52 and would like to add the CH Pro Pedals, but can also have fun flying with just my girlfriend's Evo.

Platypus_1.JaVA
08-01-2005, 09:34 AM
I see the X52 like the Cyborg Evo but, with extra sliders wich is great for the various trim surfaces, flaps and prop pitch. I had the Cyborg Evo myself for some time and I was able to sell it. I wanted the X52 for some time but, I felt that I should get rid of the Cyborg Evo first. But, if you are happy with an EVO stick, that is just fine. Many good pilots fly with this stick. A more expensive joystick won't make you a better pilot.

bogusheadbox
08-01-2005, 10:02 AM
thanks for the replies.

At moment i am using a logitech wingman extreme. The stick's twist action started spiking and going nuts shorly after i purchased it.

I gave up playing IL2 for some time because it was so hard to line up a shot with your rudder shooting left and right. I purchased PF because of my new computer and i really enjoy flight sims. I prefer bombers or strike craft but don't mind fighters now and then.

But last night i could not take the tail shake any more so i twisted it in frustration until a very load snap was heard. I have lost all spring action when twisting to the left but the rudder spiking is not so bad now.

I don't mind paying more for a better joystick. If the x52 will add more immersion then that may be for me. If the X52 is just WOW factor with its pretty lights and more buttons, then i will go for the cyborg evo.

But i will never buy a logitech stick ever again.

Tully__
08-01-2005, 10:11 AM
What the X-52 will do for you is allow you to spend less time looking at the keyboard because the controls can be assigned to the stick/throttle. Using the Saitek profiling software, there is enough flexibility that you should be able to fly a complete mission without ever using the keyboard if you wish.

Oilburner_TAW
08-01-2005, 06:48 PM
The BIG advantage I've found from watching other's in game with a "higher end" setup is the ability to control the throttle. One of the things I did to try and improve my skill was go into warclouds (i think it was WC..i know I was able to watch externally on the track and jump from plane to plane) and sit on the tarmac and record a track for about 30 min. I then went and watched the track and skipped around to follow the skilled players and see how they flew. One thing that immediately stood out was the constant manipulation of the throttle. Currently I use the keyboard to control the throttle because I can tap for plus/minus 5% changes..but a real throttle is the way to go.

JG7_Rall
08-01-2005, 10:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tully__:
It depends on your budget and how dedicated you are to having the best flying experience. For the casual PC pilot, the evo is fine. For the more dedicated among us something with the feature level of the X-52 is imperative. The really dedicated go even further, buying the full suite of CH Products controllers (FlightStick, Pro Throttle & Pro Pedals).

I have the X-52 and would like to add the CH Pro Pedals, but can also have fun flying with just my girlfriend's Evo. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Your girlfriend has a joystick!?!?! She's either really awesome or really ugly


just kidding tully!!

3.JG51_BigBear
08-01-2005, 11:21 PM
She needs something to keep here satisfied http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

LEXX_Luthor
08-02-2005, 12:26 AM
Looking at, or feeling around, the keyboard is why the 20$ WalMarts Saitek Cyborg Graphite -- the all black WalMarts stick, not the gold stick with base buttons -- with three (3) stick-top buttons is the most realistic WW2 joystick made, although X-52 may be the most realistic LOMAC, F4, and Space Combat joystick. There are no base buttons even though the Graphite has the most massive base made of any joystick, has 6 inch top travel forward/back and side to side (measure yours), and the most massive throttle made, as well as the most smooth working buttons of any joystick -- with only three buttons they are nicely oversize. Best, the Graphite comes with no software, and naturally, never wears out. Its also the best stick for 1950-1960s jet simming, before the HOTAS era of the 1970s jets. Anyway, using mouse view for looking around frees up the hat switches for use as additional buttons. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Pic http://www.simlog.com/saitek-cyborg-graphite.html

Its giant, and all black with no gold, as it should be.

HotelBushranger
08-02-2005, 04:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">She needs something to keep here satisfied http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oooooooooooooooooooooooo! I wouldn't take that Tully!

&lt;Forum chants&gt; Fight! Fight! Fight!

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

bogusheadbox
08-02-2005, 07:32 AM
Well i have chosen to go for the x52. So hopefully i can see you guys online and not be wavering all over the place.

Anyway. If joysticks are needed to keep tully's missus satisfied...... then i better buy the biggest one ;-)

neural_dream
08-02-2005, 11:28 AM
Coincidentally i am also thinking to buy the X52 and give my old Evo to my girlfriend. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif. But the more i think of it i'll probably end up with a TrackIR3Pro instead of a new joystick.

CRSutton
08-02-2005, 11:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bogusheadbox:
thanks for the replies.

But i will never buy a logitech stick ever again. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thought I was the worst dang pilot in the world until I bought an evo to replace my logitech. Turns out that I just had the worst dang joystick in the world.

I have now graduated to the level of mediocre pilot, but I can't blame that on my stick. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

knightflyte
08-02-2005, 09:15 PM
Tully,
Does your girlfriend have a sister who like flight sims too? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sounds like yours is a keeper. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Tully__
08-02-2005, 09:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by knightflyte:
Tully,
Does your girlfriend have a sister who like flight sims too? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sounds like yours is a keeper. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
She has a sister, but I don't think that she likes fligh sims.

And mine is definitely a keeper http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif