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gh0stware
04-27-2008, 09:43 PM
I just started playing IL2 1946, is there a setting i am missing to increase the tracer graphic? i dont see any tracers. i have watched some videos and the tracers seem much more prominent.

ImMoreBetter
04-27-2008, 10:28 PM
I don't think so.

Your monitor settings, perhaps?

Also note that some bullets are easier to see than others.

Bearcat99
04-28-2008, 06:47 AM
In many videos the creator used video enhancement tools to do that that are independent of the sim.

Capt.LoneRanger
04-28-2008, 07:15 AM
Tracer color and number of tracers vary from plane to plane depending on the armament. If you fly planes with large cannons and slow rate of fire, you rarely see tracers, if you fly planes with many smaller caliber guns like the P47 or the early Hurricanes, you will see a lot of tracers. You should also know that different guns have different tracer colors. While the Cal50 on US-planes are red or orange, most German planes use blueish tracers.

It also depends a lot from the angle of view. The tracers are a lot better visible from the sides than from directly behind or in front of the aircraft.

Lurch1962
04-28-2008, 05:40 PM
Tracers are more easily seen from the sides than any other aspect because they're drawn as elongated streaks of not inconsiderable length. That's why they can be seen many km away where an air battle is raging, while the aircraft responsible are themselves completely invisible!

DKoor
04-29-2008, 12:16 AM
Sadly some of the weapons do not have any tracers at all.

Then there is of course transparency problem with some weapons which add to it as well.

Wildnoob
04-29-2008, 09:45 AM
the tracers on this sim are generic, isn't ?

as well as flak.

I never see many german guncam color footage, and the few ones I see the tracers where yellow.

I saw only one video where I see USAAF P-47 footage where the tracers where red, like we have on the sim. but, generally, in the rest of USAAF footage where yellow.

flak is also with somekind of orange, while in all the real footages I see it was black.

Redwulf 32 - Nis
04-29-2008, 12:52 PM
Hat tip to crucislancer here:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/1311032046/p/1

The link:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040515010703/http://free-s....hr/dvd/Weapons.html (http://web.archive.org/web/20040515010703/http://free-st.hinet.hr/dvd/Weapons.html)

cya around

Jaws2002
04-29-2008, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by Wildnoob:
the tracers on this sim are generic, isn't ?

as well as flak.

I never see many german guncam color footage, and the few ones I see the tracers where yellow.

I saw only one video where I see USAAF P-47 footage where the tracers where red, like we have on the sim. but, generally, in the rest of USAAF footage where yellow.

flak is also with somekind of orange, while in all the real footages I see it was black.


Tracer color was generated by the chemicals they contained. That's why different countries tracers had different colors. Because they contained different chemicals. Some countries even used tracers of different colors or brightness for night operations.

I read somewhere about the Finns loading the gunner stations in Ju-88's with tracers only. German bright tracers, to scare away the Russian fighters.

Tracers still come in multiple colors and brightness today. Judging the color of the tracers by what you see in 50 years old film is rather bad way of doing the research. The tracers is seen one way with the human eye and can be reproduced differently by the film, depending on many factors like exposure time, chemicals used in developing the film or depreciation over time.
The best is to look for the historical accounts or better research the exact chemicals used in any type of tracers.

Jaws2002
04-29-2008, 03:01 PM
http://www.hi-vel.com/Catalog__18/Tracer_Ammunition/tracer_ammunition.html

http://ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/product_info.php?cPath=49&products_id=165

20rds - 7.62x39 Green Tracer Ammo $29.95




"This tracer is a traditional Soviet green tip tracer and will start to trace bright green right out of the barrel and will continue to trace for 400 yards. It has a very bright green trace and can be seen day or night. This tracer is made to true Soviet military tracer specifications. It is completely safe to shoot in your weapon."


http://www.privatedata.com/byb/pyro/pfp/tracers.html

"used to love takling soviet blue and green 7,62 tracers and load them into 7,62x51 cases and mix them in a blet of M62 US tracer and watch the virtual rainbow of blue/green/red love floating and bouncing downrange."

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=46415&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

VW-IceFire
04-29-2008, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by gh0stware:
I just started playing IL2 1946, is there a setting i am missing to increase the tracer graphic? i dont see any tracers. i have watched some videos and the tracers seem much more prominent.
No way to turn off tracers so they are there. Look a bit closer perhaps? Try a few different planes...German tracers tend to be blue (or occasionally yellow or red), Russians have a mix of white/green/yellow typically, and American and British planes tend to have red tracers for machine guns and yellow tracers for the cannons.

Some planes are more spectacular tracer wise than others. Try a FW190 or a Tempest. You should see a veritable hail of tracer fire. With the US .50cal armed planes there is a serious stream of tracer fire but its unfortunately not very visible. Look closely or try it at night.

Wildnoob
04-29-2008, 04:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-7geGhY0jY

really, IL2 tracers where like the real ones. at least is wat looks for me on this BF-110 guncam footage.