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Mysticpuma2003
12-29-2004, 01:26 AM
Thanks for taking the time to read this and I hope you can help.

My latest and possibly final film is going to be based on the amazing survival of Robert.S.Johnson's P-47 after being attacked by a Fw-190.

Now I have lots of info including this:

On 26 June 1943, the 56th was one of three groups tasked with supporting B-17's attacking targets in France.

Also I know the planes markings and take-off and landing fields, etc.

What I am missing is the time of the mission, what happened to the other P-47's in his flight of 48. Were they just fighter escort or were they also carrying bombs, were any lost and did any of them get any kills?

I have a quote of "the 56th was one of three groups tasked with supporting B-17's attacking targets in France", which I'm not sure if it means they were also carrying bombs you see.

What sort of altitude were they supporting at and what altitude was he at when he was attacked.

Finally which bomber group were they supporting, did they have any losses and did they reach their target.

I know that's a lot of information but, this is my first totally historic movie and I know how upset some guys would be if I made mistakes.

So I'm appealing to the community who have this information, could you help me out here, by either posting here or pm me.

Thanks for any help and assistance you can supply. Neil.

Eagle_361st
12-29-2004, 01:48 AM
I will have a look at some of the stuff I have to get more definitive answers for you.

But I can tell you that they started out as an escort mission, no bombs. Was a daylight mission, I believe(But could be wrong), the action began around 1300 hrs. Altititude was around 30K when the action started, and from what I can remember there were four pilots lost and six planes, including Johnsons P-47. I will see what else I can get for you and have it summarized and in detail.

Mysticpuma2003
12-29-2004, 03:04 AM
Thanks for the speedy info, look forward to more detail, thanks eagle.

Bomber info would be good too! But it's a case of get what you can, when you can, so thanks again, Neil.

RGJ
12-29-2004, 04:24 AM
I took this info from a book called "Beware the Thunderbolt The 56th Fighter Group in World War II" hope it helps:

http://www.rgj3.btinternet.co.uk/56th/June26th1943.rtf

Johnson was flying P-47(41-6235) callsign HV P "Half Pint".

Sorry for any spelling mistakes my typing ain't the greatesthttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

RGJ

Cajun76
12-29-2004, 07:56 AM
This is a bit hard to find at times, so I'll paste it. Some elements don't seem to jive with "Beware..." http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>A Chivalric Gesture From an Abbeville Kid

By: Jon Guttman
Even a crack outfit like Lieutenant Colonel Hubert A. Zemke's 56th Fighter Group had its off days--especially in its early months, when its pilots were still taking the measure of experienced German Jagdgeschwader (fighter wings) such as JG.2 "Richthofen" and JG.26 "Schlageter," the latter of which was better known to the Yanks as the "Abbeville Kids."

One of the 56th's worst setbacks occurred on June 26, 1943, when 48 P-47Cs left Horsham St. Faith to provide escort for Eighth Air Force bombers returning from a mission against Villacoublay airfield, near Paris. As the P-47s approached the rendezvous point near Forges, they were jumped from above and behind by 16 Focke-Wulf Fw-190As of III Gruppe, JG.2. The Americans scattered, and 2nd Lt. Robert S. Johnson, flying at the rear of the 61st Squadron's formation, was hit on the Germans' first pass, a 20mm shell exploding in his cockpit and rupturing his hydraulic system. Burned and blinded by hydraulic fluid, Johnson tried to bail out, but could not open his shattered canopy. As he dove for the Channel, he became one of three victories claimed that day by the Gruppenf├╝hrer of III/JG.2, Oberst Egon Mayer, who claimed to have come close enough to make out the call letters HV-P of Johnson's plane.

As Johnson tried to fly home, he caught the attention of Major Georg-Peter Eder, another Fw-190A pilot who had just recently transferred to II/JG.26. Eder's 20mm cannons were jammed, but he followed Johnson halfway across the Channel, riddling the American's plane with 7.62mm bullets until he finally ran out of ammunition. Eder then brought his Fw-190 alongside the crippled ship (close enough for Johnson to note that his adversary's eyes were brown), shook his head in disbelief that it was still in the air, then rocked his wings in salute and peeled off for home.

Thanks to the P-47's ruggedness--plus sheer luck--the wounded Johnson was able to reach England, landing safely at Manston. Picked up by squadron mate Joe H. Powers, Jr.--who was flying an unfamiliar British plane that almost crashed along the way--Johnson got back to Horsham just in time to hear Nazi radio propagandist William Joyce, aka Lord Haw Haw, interviewing Eder. The German pilot described the incident in detail--again including reference to Johnson's call letters, HV-P--and claimed to have seen his victim hit the water just short of England.

Five of Bob Johnson's group mates were less fortunate than he had been. Merle Eby, Louis Barron and Robert Weatherbee of the 61st Squadron and Roger Dyer of the 63rd were killed, while 1st Lt. Ralph A. Johnson, able to extend only one of his plane's main undercarriage legs, had to bail out over the Channel and was rescued north of Yarmouth. Five other Thunderbolts returned damaged. Although the 56th claimed two victories--by Gerald W. Johnson and Charles Harrison--II/JG.26 suffered no casualties. It had been an exceptionally good day for the Abbeville Kids--and an exceptionally bad one for Zemke's Wolfpack.

Bob Johnson, of course, went on to become one of the leading American aces with 27 victories. Mayer brought his score up to 102, but was killed over Montmedy on March 2, 1944--shot down by P-47s. Eder survived the war with 78 victories, despite having been shot down 17 times and being wounded 14 times. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I can't remember where, but there's a chapter out there with Johnson's detailed account of the events, including his disorentation, attempts to bail, and not only nursing the plane, but flying and climbing back to base. Hope this helps, I'd love to help if I can. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif I've thought about a movie like this since you guys started making them, I just have no movie making skills. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Mysticpuma2003
12-29-2004, 09:13 AM
Blimey! I can see I'm going to have to work carefully through this with so many different, but the same, versions!

This info was from another source "landed the P-47C-2-RE, USAAF s/n 41-6235 "All Hell," coded HV-P; the aircraft was a write off."

RJG said "Johnson was flying P-47(41-6235) callsign HV P "Half Pint"."

So I'm going to have to find out which artwork he was flying at the time.

Thankyou very much for the information supplied so-far, time of day was important, could do with the weather conditions if possible.

Also I really need to know what sort of losses (if any) there were to the 100 B-17's who were attacked on the return from bombing run in France.

Thanks again, and there may indeed be a need for some American voice talent in this production to get it to work properly, so I'll remember your post Cajun.

RGJ
12-29-2004, 10:10 AM
Crossed referenced the day with JG26 War Diary Vol 2:

Opening line page 110:

"The 8th bomber command targeted Villacoublay despite continued bad weather
over the continent."

Maj Priller claimed and confirmed a B17 from 384th BG at 1852 (Dieppe-Le Treport),
and the other JG26 claims are P-47s. But it does say that I/JG2 and II/JG2
claimed 3xB17's, 2xSpitfires, 1xP-47 and the last was downed off Le Treport at
1903.

Again hope it helps.

RGJ

Diablo310th
12-29-2004, 10:27 AM
Mystic...here is a link that may help. I have Johnson's book too. I'll check it out and see what it says.
http://www.acepilots.com/usaaf_rsj.html

Mysticpuma2003
12-29-2004, 10:46 AM
RGJ, thanks, I think that's close enough for me on the bombers, so now it's down to which plane Johnson was flying, and after checking IL2skins, neither Half Pint or All Hell have been created...****! Anyway, what I need now then is a reference to either of these planes nose art and markings. Again guys any help is much appreciated and you will be getting a credit in the titles for your help, so thanks once again. Neil.

After checking the link below it looks like it was "Half Pint" but still need confirmation.

Mysticpuma2003
12-29-2004, 10:50 AM
Right guys check out this link and tell me if it looks like the plane he was flying, i'd appreciate your feedback. The account says the German pilot had Blue eyes, yet earlier posts in this thread say he had brown. You can see why I want to get as accurate as possible so what do you think.

Eye colour obviously isn't important, but it's facts that are different, and if that is different other facts could be wrong so, what do you think?

Anyway here's the link.

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.stenbergaa.com/stenberg/laurier-notmyturn.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.stenbergaa.com/stenberg/item979.html&h=323&w=416&sz=33&tbnid=1oZSQ9dn-6EJ:&tbnh=93&tbnw=121&start=25&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drobert%2Bs.%2Bjohnson%26start%3D20%26 hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN

Mysticpuma2003
12-29-2004, 10:58 AM
RGJ, from your reference on the bombers, did they claim any victories over axis planes?

RGJ
12-29-2004, 11:26 AM
In book "Republic P-47 Thunderbolt From Seversky to Victory" it says the aircraft
was called Half Pint. I have not got any pictures of the said aircraft apart from
the rear part of the fusealarge that was damaged so no idea what the artwork looked
likehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. According to the JG26 book which only covers JG26 on the 26 June they only
had one Casualtie and that was a pilot WIA flying a 109G-3 nr Dieppe by a P-47 from
the 4th FG.

You could also ask on the Aceshigh BBS http://www.hitechcreations.com/ubbframe.html
for any more information in the aircraft and vehicles section as there are some guys
hat know shed loads like Guppy35. Also the guys that fly 56th FG 63rd FS in that
game they might have some knowledge of the events?

RGJ

Cajun76
12-29-2004, 12:40 PM
Someone using code /code ? Add a couple of returns please to some of these posts...

Here's one good site that has some good detail:

http://www.acepilots.com/usaaf_rsj.html

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Mysticpuma2003
12-29-2004, 02:38 PM
well I'm waiting to post on the aces forum, so here's hoping. BTW what did you think of the above link to the painting in which the P-47 of Johnson was brown in colour? Does it add up?

RGJ
12-29-2004, 05:27 PM
This seems about right just need to change the call sign?
http://www.il2skins.com/?action=display&skinid=2635

Sent PM also.

RGJ

WTE_Dukayn
12-29-2004, 06:43 PM
that link wide enuff MysticPuma? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Mysticpuma2003
12-30-2004, 02:28 AM
Right OK guys, I seem to have hit a snag here. I think that the colour scheme of the above link by RGJ is right......however... I have talked with Air Art Northwest representative Sig Unander about the above very long link to a painting by Jim Laurier. He said, and I quote "The text was written by the artist, Jim Laurier, from data supplied by Johnson when he was alive and from archival sources. Jim is a good researcher and historian, so I assume the aircraft paint is correct."

Now the colour of Johnson's plane in that painting is Brown and the FW in the background has no blue in the paintwork but does have a yellow cowling. After reading the above text about Laurier and also the fact that Johnson signed the painting, I'm inclined to believe that the painting is accurate, but that means that all the 61st that day would have been flying in brown camo? I'd value some feedback on this if possible, thankyou.

WhiskeyBravo
12-30-2004, 04:40 AM
Hi MysticPuma,

According the 'Mighty Eighth War Diary' by R Freeman, Villacoublay A/D and Poissy A/F were attacked between 1829 and 1833hrs.

Of the 165 B17 of 1BW who attacked only 56 dropped their bombs. The majority of these were from 305 and 306BG who attacked Tricqueville A/F at 1746hrs.

5 B17 were lost from 384BG.

The weather was 'tiered layers of cloud' which caused the majority of bombers to abort their bomb runs.

Hope that helps a bit. Looking forward to the movie.

Regards,

WB.

Cajun76
12-30-2004, 06:54 AM
Oops, I posted the same link as Diablo above. I'll try to do a search for that chapter. I think it's from Johnson's book, and it goes into great detail,
especially what happaned after he got hit. I don't remeber him referring to his own color scheme, but I have read several places that the Fw
was blue (mottled? underside?) and had a yellow nose.

RGJ
12-30-2004, 07:34 AM
All my references to the 56th FG Squadrons have the same "colour scheme", all around
that date and months beyond I would think it would be a bit strange that one squadron
would change for that day/week then revert back again?

RGJ

Mysticpuma2003
12-30-2004, 07:44 AM
That's what is worrying me most. Imagine making the movie and then someone says" Nope his plane was brown, not green". I've got many irons in many fires trying to find out, thanks for the help everyone so-far.

Mysticpuma2003
12-31-2004, 01:27 AM
My latest problem is that the P-47 Pilots association sent me this info;

"Here is a photo of a P-47 from Johnson's Squadron.....the tail marking is red for the 61st FS. All of the 56th FG planes had the red marking on the nose also. As far as the nose art.....well it was not uncommon for pilots to share planes."

So now I have to find out if it was a white nose-cone and tail or a red one!!! Gah!

Anyway, still on research, and a project this size could take 4-6 months to complete. Thanks for all your help guys, Neil.

Eagle_361st
12-31-2004, 02:35 AM
OK a little clarification on the paint scheme for his aircraft on that day.

It was OD green standard 8th AF color(Kinda looks brown)
White nose and tail bands (standard ETO markings for 1943)
And the aircraft name was "Half Pint" code HV*P

Still working on getting you more info, but I thought I would save you a little hair pulling in the meantime.

Mysticpuma2003
12-31-2004, 04:02 AM
Thanks Eagle....we're getting there!

RGJ
12-31-2004, 04:03 AM
It is as Eagle said mate:

"It was OD green standard 8th AF color(Kinda looks brown) White nose and tail bands (standard ETO markings for 1943)" and he has also comfirmed what I said about the name and callsign of the aircraft.

The 4th and 78th FG also had the same bands during that period, the 56th FG started to add thier squadron colour banding around the nose from about Dec43-Jan44 if memeory serves me right.

Did you see the pictures I sent you by PM they are photos of Johnson's P-47 after it had landed it has got a white tail bandhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

RGJ

Copperhead310th
12-31-2004, 04:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I can't remember where, but there's a chapter out there with Johnson's detailed account of the events, including his disorentation, attempts to bail, and not only nursing the plane, but flying and climbing back to base. Hope this helps, I'd love to help if I can. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif I've thought about a movie like this since you guys started making them, I just have no movie making skills. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah and i posted it here some time ago. bob goes into great deatil in his account of the incident.

sancho_63fs
01-01-2005, 02:25 AM
Here's some rather general information for you regarding the events of 26 June 1943:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Of 123 1st Heavy Bombardment Wing B-17s and five YB-40s dispatched on a late-afternoon mission against Villacoublay Airdrome, a total of only 17 B-17s attack an aircraft-industry plant at Villacoublay or Poissy Airdrome (secondary targets); 39 of 42 B-17s dispatched by the 305th and 306th Heavy Bombardment groups attack their primary, Tricqueville Airdrome; and all 81 4th Heavy Bombardment Wing B-17s dispatched against Le Mans Airdrome abort before reaching the target. Moderate GAF opposition over the targets and during the withdrawal accounts for five B-17s lost and 14 damaged, and crew losses of one killed, 51 missing, and three wounded.

Between 1850 and 1915 hours, while escorting withdrawing heavy bombers, 4th and 56th Fighter group P-47s are engaged over Dieppe by FW-190s and Bf-109s. The P-47 pilots receive credit for four confirmed victories, but four 56th Fighter Group P-47s are downed, four pilots are missing, and the wounded pilot of another 56th Group P-47 crash-lands his battle-damaged P-47 at a base in England. Also, the pilot of a damaged 56th Fighter Group P-47 is rescued from the English Channel after abandoning his airplane following an abortive landing attempt in which only one wheel comes down.

- from Air War Europa: America's Air War against Germany in Europe and North Africa by Eric Hammel.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So the P-47s definitely weren't carrying bombs. They were strictly escort. Which bomber group the 56th was covering isn't obvious from this short snippet, but one can extrapolate from the other information in this thread that it was probably the 1st Heavy Bombardment Wing returning from Villacoublay. I don't have details about the bombers' altitude. Hopefully someone who has researched bombing practices throughout the war could give a general idea of what altitude would have been common in summer of '43.

Good luck with the film!

Nomde
01-01-2005, 02:51 AM
Hi Mystic,
I'm the CO of the 56th in AH, RGJ was a squadmate of mine. The P47's were sent from the Republic plant painted ina Olive drab paint scheme with a light grey underside, with white stripes on the verticle and horizontal tail surfaces. I beleive the "brown" paint you see is either a trick of the eye or a mis-intrepretation by the artist. All references I have show Olive drab bro, hope this helps.

Cave Tonitrum
Nomde
CO 56th Fighter Group
Nomde@56thfightergroup.com

Mysticpuma2003
01-01-2005, 04:00 AM
Sancho and Nomde, that's fantastic information, thanks. What I need now is to know whether the '47's were only escorting B-17's or whether B-24's were also in action that day, as one account I have (by the artist Jim Laurier) says "On June 26,1943, Robert S. Johnson was one in a flight of sixteen P-47 Thunderbolts assigned to escort B-24 bombers to their target".

I have to say that most of the information I have says that it was an escort for returning B-17's, but it's just clarification before I start to create the misiions I need for the movie.

Thanks again for all your input, Neil.

Btw, the paintscheme apppears now to be a definate Olive drab green, white nose cone and rudder paint. Cheers.

Eagle_361st
01-01-2005, 01:33 PM
Ok here is a little more info, sorry about the slow coming of this in small tidbits. But I am doing everything I can to verify everything before posting what I get.

JG2 was the group involved in the attack on Johnsons flight. They got 5 Tbolts with the loss of four pilots. After the initial attack Johnsons aircraft was severely damaged and he dropped to an altitude of 19,000 Ft, and made his way home with no chance of bailing out and his engine damaged. Over Dieppe he was attacked at 8,000 ft by a blue FW-190 from JG 26 at least two times as comes the story of the German pilot flying formation after the two attacks, then flying formation until over the channel, then waggling his wings and saluting before leaving Johnson to his fate or so he thought.

Fliegeroffizier
01-01-2005, 02:26 PM
With regard to the B17's, from USAAF official Combat Chronology for 16 June 43:

QUOTE

EUROPEAN THEATER OF OPERATIONS

(Eighth Air Force): ... Eighth Air Force Mission Number 68: 165 B-17's are dispatched against the Vilacoublay, France air depot; 12 hit the target while 6 hit the secondary target, Poissy Airfield, and 39 bomb Tricqueville Airfield; they claim 17-5-10 Luftwaffe aircraft; we lose 5 B-17's and 14 others are damaged; casualties are 1 KIA, 3 WIA and 51 MIA. 5 YB-40 escort bombers take off to accompany heavy bombers but none are able to complete the attack

UNQUOTE

The numbers of B17's dispatched versus the number who actually bombed target(s) seems a bit screwy, but this IS the official record...In any event, the Losses would seem to be Precise.

Mysticpuma2003
01-02-2005, 03:01 AM
Fliegeroffizier, I'm embarrassed to ask but the claims of "17-5-10 Luftwaffe aircraft" destroyed, does this mean destroyed on the runway or aerial victory? I'm sorry I don't understand what the numbers show, but I appreciate your research effort and yours too Eagle. If you could clear this up, I think I have enough information to start building the missions from.
Please take into account with this that I also have to create the skins for aircraft, so be patient. I'll try and get a teaser trailer up in the next month.

Btw, I'll probably be needing some American (poss German) voices and dialogue for this production, so watch out for a post in the future requesting help. Thanks again for all your efforts, Neil.

Nero111
01-02-2005, 08:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>On June 26, the Group lost four pilots and six planes (including the one that Robert Johnson struggled home in), while Hub Zemke talked Ralph Johnson down as he tried to land at Horsham St. Faith. As Ralph's landing gear was stuck with only one wheel down, and the other could not be shaken down, Hub advised him to fly back out over the Channel and bail out. He watched Ralph go into the sea, and then guided a rescue plane back to recover him safely. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Source (http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:fEVuTMMODScJ:www.acepilots.com/usaaf_zemke.html+Eighth+Air+Force+Mission+Number+6 8+june+1943&hl=en)
June 26, 1943 mission details: (http://www.acepilots.com/usaaf_rsj.html)

Eagle_361st
01-02-2005, 12:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mysticpuma2003:
Fliegeroffizier, I'm embarrassed to ask but the claims of "17-5-10 Luftwaffe aircraft" destroyed, does this mean destroyed on the runway or aerial victory? I'm sorry I don't understand what the numbers show, but I appreciate your research effort and yours too Eagle. If you could clear this up, I think I have enough information to start building the missions from.
Please take into account with this that I also have to create the skins for aircraft, so be patient. I'll try and get a teaser trailer up in the next month.

Btw, I'll probably be needing some American (poss German) voices and dialogue for this production, so watch out for a post in the future requesting help. Thanks again for all your efforts, Neil. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They were classified as aerial victories, but I don't know what was confirmed and officially recognized. As for skins I can help you with Johnsons plane if you would like.

Eagle_361st
01-02-2005, 02:38 PM
Ok here is a work in progress of Robert Johnsons P-47 for your movie. Once I find some more pictures of it and can get a good image of the noseart and how "Half Pint" writing looked I can finish it up.
http://home.comcast.net/~sean_conlon/wsb/media/666684/site1014.jpg

Eagle_361st
01-02-2005, 02:54 PM
More info from web birds:
Quote:
a/c with 61st FS were: P-47C 41-6235 HV-P "Half Pint"; P-47D 42-8461 HV-P "Lucky" and P-47D 42-76234 HV-P "All Hell". 62nd a/c was P-47D 42-25512 LM-Q "Penrod and Sam".

Lt. Robert S Johnson. Lawton, OK. 61st Fighter Squadron. P-47C 41-6235 HV-P "Half Pint". Well known photo but worth looking at again as contrary to popular belief, this a/c was not written of but repaired and issued to the 9th AF's 36th FG where it was finally lost on 18 August 1944.

Lt. Robert S Johnson. Lawton, OK. 61st Fighter Squadron. P-47C 41-6235 HV-P "Half Pint". Detail shot of damage to canopy area.
http://www.littlefriends.co.uk/gallery/56g/rsj5.jpg
end Quote

Eagle_361st
01-02-2005, 04:26 PM
Here is the almost finished product. I just would like to find a better image of the noseart, I would be totally satisfied then. Let me know what you think of it.
http://home.comcast.net/~sean_conlon/wsb/media/666684/site1015.jpg

Eagle_361st
01-03-2005, 02:30 AM
bump for Neil. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Mysticpuma2003
01-03-2005, 05:34 AM
Hi Eagle, I just replied in the paintschemes forum, fantastic work. I contacted Jim Laurier, but got no response, shame, what we need is someone with a better picture to scan the noseart in and post it here, awesome work though, thanks.

Taylortony
01-03-2005, 06:59 PM
ok these may help a bit first pic i dont know if it is or not

http://www.warbirdsinscale.com/images/reviews/p47reviewdellacqua/muso.jpg

http://www.littlefriends.co.uk/gallery/56g/rsj5.jpg

http://www.littlefriends.co.uk/gallery/56g/rsj4.jpg

will help with nose

http://www.littlefriends.co.uk/gallery/56g/62flight.jpg

The scheme is here

http://m2reviews.cnsi.net/scotts/decals/super/ss48831.htm

you could cut and paste the decal of the sheet onto the skin http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Eagle_361st
01-03-2005, 08:35 PM
Thanks TT! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Mysticpuma2003
01-04-2005, 03:45 AM
Eagle fantastic news! Jim Laurier replied to me with a close-up of the nose art in his painting, so I have to say a huge thasnkyou here to him. Anyway I've uploaded the pictures, coppyright of Jim Laurier to an ftp address, and also below is some of the text of his email.

Quote "The art was of "Pappy Yokum" dressed in
his 'sunday best' clothes with HALF PINT in small white block lettering beneath the figure.
"Pappy Yokum", as you may know, was a popular comic book character of the time from the famous
"Lil Abner" series by artist Al Capp.

Bob saw my painting and vouched for it's accuracy in all regards, so it is probably the best reference
available for this aircraft that I'm aware of."

I have uploaded them as I said, the links for which are below. Again thanks for your time Jim, and hope this helps with the skin Eagle. Cheers, Neil.

http://www.aqqm31.dsl.pipex.com/halfpint1.jpg

http://www.aqqm31.dsl.pipex.com/halfpint2.jpg

Eagle_361st
01-04-2005, 08:28 AM
Outstanding thank you Jim and Neil! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif This is exactly what I needed.

Eagle_361st
01-04-2005, 08:23 PM
The skin is done, check the paintscheme forum and let me know if you want to use it. I won't be offended at all if you decide to go with Maxl's skin over mine. I had a blast making it and will probably release it and a no markings skin as well.

Eagle_361st
01-04-2005, 10:45 PM
Skin is released and includes a blank 61st FS skin as well. I hope you all enjoy it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
http://www.il2skins.com/?action=display&skinid=17650