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b2spirita
02-04-2008, 04:41 AM
Can anyone reccomend a decent free tuner for an acoustic?

Im not that cheap http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif its just im practicing on a friends acoustic untill i buy me electric in the summer when i move and i cant see the point in buying one that will be useless in a while

skarden
02-04-2008, 05:30 AM
google is your friend http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

guitar tuner 1.5 (http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/Home-Education/Free-Guitar-tuner.shtml)

another (http://www.guitar.sk/guitar/guitar_software.htm)

although I HIGHLY recomend learning to tune by ear,it really isnt that hard.Being an old school metallica fan i used to use the start of nothing else matters to tune my guitar when i was to poor(read cheap!) to buy a tuner,as the first notes in the song are just the open E G B E(high) strings played in a row.

After a while i didnt need the tuner because i had heard the song soooo many times it was ingrained in my head,so i would just tune the guitar to what i thought sounded right(starting with the low E) then play the start of the song and i could normally tell if it was to sharp or flat from memory,it takes a while to hone it in but like anything else on the guitar it's just a matter of sticking at it.

It doesnt have to be that song obviously but it's a not to hard to do and will be a MASSIVE help to your music playing in general http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

good luck

RegRag1977
02-04-2008, 05:42 AM
lthough I HIGHLY recomend learning to tune by ear,it really isnt that hard.


I agree http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif , and this can help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A440

b2spirita
02-04-2008, 06:41 AM
Originally posted by skarden:
google is your friend http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

guitar tuner 1.5 (http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/Home-Education/Free-Guitar-tuner.shtml)

another (http://www.guitar.sk/guitar/guitar_software.htm)

although I HIGHLY recomend learning to tune by ear,it really isnt that hard.Being an old school metallica fan i used to use the start of nothing else matters to tune my guitar when i was to poor(read cheap!) to buy a tuner,as the first notes in the song are just the open E G B E(high) strings played in a row.

After a while i didnt need the tuner because i had heard the song soooo many times it was ingrained in my head,so i would just tune the guitar to what i thought sounded right(starting with the low E) then play the start of the song and i could normally tell if it was to sharp or flat from memory,it takes a while to hone it in but like anything else on the guitar it's just a matter of sticking at it.

It doesnt have to be that song obviously but it's a not to hard to do and will be a MASSIVE help to your music playing in general http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

good luck

cheers, ive tried those two, no luck, maybe its just a case of messing around till it works???

Ratsack
02-04-2008, 06:51 AM
I recommend the following:

1. Buy a tuning fork;
2. learn to tune by ear;
3. and read this article by the Guild of American Luthiers:

http://www.stagepass.com/tuning.html


The article not only explains how to tune a perfectly tempered guitar, but explains what's wrong with the most common tuning methods.

cheers,
Ratsack

Ratsack
02-04-2008, 06:56 AM
If you can answer a couple of questions, we might be able to help you better.

Firstly, can you pluck harmonics?

Secondly, can you hear the beats in the soundscape when you have two notes right next to each other, but not quite in tune?

cheers,
Ratsack

b2spirita
02-04-2008, 07:04 AM
Aplogies, i shoul have made it clear that i started witht the guitar last friday and im using a dvd to learn the basics plus i have a guitar playing friend helping me out when he can.

Ratsack thanks for the link, but honestly im quite tone deaf... id rather tune it 'artificially' to start with so i can at least learn when its supposed to sound like before learning to tune by ear

Ratsack
02-04-2008, 07:07 AM
Right.

In that case, buy a cheap Korg. They are:

a.) equal-tempered;
b.) easy to use; and
c.) like I said, cheap.

Have fun with it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

cheers,
Ratsack

b2spirita
02-04-2008, 07:16 AM
thanks ratsack

Bearcat99
02-04-2008, 07:34 AM
Yeah.. tuners are relatively cheap now a days...

Check out these sites:

Chordie.com (http://www.chordie.com/) Free chord charts for thousands of songs..

Absolute Fretboard (http://www.soft3k.com/Absolute-Fretboard-Trainer-p223.htm) and other good stuff....

b2spirita
02-04-2008, 07:49 AM
thanks bearcat, you know thats whats nice about this community..the eagerness of so many to help out
cheers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

AFJ_rsm
02-04-2008, 07:53 AM
most tuners out there not only have a mic so you can tune your accoustic, but they also have an input so you can plug in your electric once you get it, so it's not like it will be a waste to buy one now since it will also probably work for your electric once you get it.

sgt.dumpster
02-04-2008, 07:54 AM
i just tune mine to my girlfriends orgazms

AFJ_rsm
02-04-2008, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by Ratsack:

3. and read this article by the Guild of American Luthiers:

http://www.stagepass.com/tuning.html



The article not only explains how to tune a perfectly tempered guitar, but explains what's wrong with the most common tuning methods.

cheers,
Ratsack


Don't try to use that method on a floating bridge guitar though!

As an interesting side note:
The site claims there isn't anything wrong with the way the instruments are constructed, but then tells you to be prepared to hear slight variations depending on the chord shapes due to the nature of the instrument. Thus it contradicts itself. There is slight intonation problems that arise from the construction of an instrument with straight frets. These guys have been trying to come up with a solution, and it looks promising, although pretty weird!
http://www.truetemperament.com/

BSS_Sniper
02-04-2008, 08:26 AM
Just use this one online.

http://www.gieson.com/Library/projects/utilities/tuner/

b2spirita
02-04-2008, 09:12 AM
i found this one to be of use so i thought id post it in case anyone was interested

http://www.bigrockeng.com/apgt.html

M2morris
02-04-2008, 09:13 AM
Learn to tune by ear.
I learned how to tune a geetar back in nineteen seventy somthin, was in a couple of rock bands in the 80s, had my 15 minutes on a sunday nite homegrown rock program in Portland oregon KGON I think it was. Anyway, I never used a tuning device. I can play almost anything by ear, at least I could back then. Right now I have a Fender Strat USA I bought in 1991 ,and a Gibson Marauder, had a LesPaul but it was stolen.

RegRag1977
02-04-2008, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Ratsack:
I recommend the following:

1. Buy a tuning fork;
2. learn to tune by ear;
3. and read this article by the Guild of American Luthiers:

http://www.stagepass.com/tuning.html


The article not only explains how to tune a perfectly tempered guitar, but explains what's wrong with the most common tuning methods.

cheers,
Ratsack

Interesting read, thanks Ratsack!

DuxCorvan
02-04-2008, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by skarden:
I HIGHLY recomend learning to tune by ear

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

Although my deal are harpsichords... different worlds, same art. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

crucislancer
02-04-2008, 12:24 PM
Another advocate of tuning by ear.

Tuners are really handy to have, especially if you need to tune quietly on stage (if that's something you want to do), but it's always a great idea to learn by ear.

arjisme
02-04-2008, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Ratsack:
http://www.stagepass.com/tuning.html


The article not only explains how to tune a perfectly tempered guitar, but explains what's wrong with the most common tuning methods.

cheers,
Ratsack Thanks for that link Ratsack! Very interesting. I've had off and on problems for a long time with getting my tuning just right. Sometimes it is beautiful and I want to play for hours. Othertimes, I can't seem to get it right at all and I hate playing. I think the article explains what I am doing wrong, going for pure tuning. I generally tune by harmonics and, yeah, I use the 7th fret. I then try to adjust a few notes to fine tune it. I'll give the article's method a try tonight and see how that flies.

Thanks!