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LC34
06-22-2005, 03:06 PM
Do I go with the ATI Radeon X800XL?

Or stick with Nvidia which I am used to and go with a GeForce 6800 GT?

I dont prefer either brand, I just heard something about ATI not having pixel shader or something that Nvidia does?

What do you all think?

d9720267
06-22-2005, 03:18 PM
Friends don't let friends buy ATI cards.

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Hunter82
06-22-2005, 03:28 PM
really depends on your budget and IQ wants/needs.

ATI has better AA/AF while NV supports PS3.0 but unless you have the system to handle it you won't be using water 3 anyhow. Overall the XL is a great card for the $ as is the GT.

Dumbo_AK32nd
06-22-2005, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by LC34:
Or stick with Nvidia which I am used to and go with a GeForce 6800 GT?

I splurged and bought the 6800GT solely because I wanted to enjoy the outstanding new water graphics in Pacific Fighters.

I've been very happy with my choice!

jarink
06-22-2005, 06:18 PM
One of the new nVidia 7800s? For $600 MSRP, the GeForce 7800 GTX gives you 24 pixel pipelines and 8 vertex units operating at a core clock speed of 430 MHz. It has an incredible 302 million transistors on the die (80 million more than the 6800 Ultra)! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Check out the article on Tom's Hardware (http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20050622/index.html).

partic_3
06-22-2005, 06:41 PM
I bought the 6800 Ultra for the PS3.0 support but I never use it now (umm, only water=3 enables it? I could be so wrong!) because I really don't like the look of it at all. I use water=0 and much prefer the look, let alone the geatly superior frame rates.
I have no brand loyalty, my last card was a 9800Pro which at the time I loved, and if I had my time again I'd buy an X800XT for the superior performance at high AA and AF.

LC34
06-22-2005, 10:56 PM
Well, I just got Battlefield 2 today and with my Geforce 4 ti 4600 I would NEVER be able to run BF2. And my card is getting on the older side so I saved up about $400 for a new card and thats where I am at now.

So really the games I will be needing the card mostly for are PF, BF2, and COD2 when it comes out. And of course, BOB.

Jumoschwanz
06-23-2005, 11:32 AM
I got the ATI x850xtPE from NewEgg on sale for about $450. I run 40-50fps average online at 1600x1200 resolution in perfect mode with an AMD 32-bit rig and a gig of ram. This card jumped my framerates 300 percent at least over the 9800pro I was running, I am amazed.

Past cards for me: gf2mx200,gf2mx400,gf2ultra,gf3ti500,9700pro,9800pr o,x850xtPE.
The last card was the biggest leap in performance for the money I ever saw in any graphics card purchase. It blows everything else before it right out of the water.

S!

Jumoschwanz

Obi_Kwiet
06-23-2005, 12:23 PM
I'd reccomnd an X800XL. It's a bit faster tha nthe 6800GT and it's cheeper.

My past cards: ATI Rage 8MB, Geforce 2 MX 400, 9800pro (still useing)

Hiriyu
06-23-2005, 07:51 PM
LC34,

I've been very pleased with my AIW X800XT card. If you can find them on sale, they can be had at prices within a few [tens of] bucks of the XL. Perversely, you can get the multimedia feature packed AIW version for ~$50 dollars less than the vanilla XT version.

In the real world the 6800GT and the X800 series cards both get the job done nicely, so you'll probably be happy whatever you choose. Enjoy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

LC34
06-23-2005, 10:07 PM
Well I ended up choosing the 6800 GT. Nothing reall major that made me choose it over the ATI card other than three small issues.

1. My old card was an Nvidia geforce4 ti 4600. The card was amazing for me and never had any problems.

2. Battlefield 2 was made/tested with Nvidia so that was another small plus.

3. Finally, the 6800 GT was on sale for 30 dollars cheaper with a $40 mail in rebate. Making it $70 cheaper total. Actually that was probably the biggest reason, but for once in my life money was not an issue here.

Thanks for the suggestions guys. Once again stellar job in the forums.

ddsflyer
06-24-2005, 09:13 AM
I have both, an Nvidia 6800Ultra and an ATI X800XTPE, both in nearly identical machines. Water=3 is a huge frame hog so I never use it therefore the only real advantage for Nvidia. ATI definitely has the edge on image quality and framerate when you use 4X or above AA and AF.

My recommendation, all things being equal, get the ATI card. It uses less juice, is smaller, and has better image quality.