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Iver1943
10-22-2005, 11:34 PM
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Tonight I was getting into the game and I picked up my cold glass of beer and then I realized that if I were on an american sub, and not a German Sub, I could not have this beer at all. Yes I know the good stuff comes from Germany and England and in WWII their beer was not drank cold.

When I lived in Seattle right out my back door was an English styel beer maker and that was gooooood. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

To the game.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

AO1_AW_SW_USN
10-23-2005, 12:19 AM
In 1998 my ship (USS Carl Vinson, CVN-70) participated in RIMPAC 98€. It was a multi-national naval exercise that consisted of the U.S., Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Taiwan, Great Britain, Germany, and a slew of others. The exercise was to coordinate naval engagements with other nations.

Anyways, we had the dubious task of performing an Underway Replenishment detail for an Australian Destroyer. It was the first time a nuclear-powered Aircraft Carrier refueled a foreign vessel. When they pulled up along side of us, about half of their ship€s crew was standing on their port side facing us. They were standing at parade rest, and almost all of them we smiling from ear to ear. We were thinking, what€s so funny, what are they finding that€s so amusing?

We€ll we found out when their ship€s whistle blew and all of them in unison pulled a beer from behind their backs, took a drink and held it up towards and screamed €œCheers to the Yank Navy!€

Needless to say, those who witnessed this (including myself) was ticked off, because no beer or any alcohol is allowed onboard US Naval vessels (unless the ship has gone for 60 days without a port visit, that€s called a €œbeer day€).

Dominicrigg
10-23-2005, 03:36 AM
lolz, nice to see the Australians still carry British traditions http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Alchohol has been a part of the Royal Navy since it became a navy i think! Bit harsh not to have any at all, is that a left over of prohibition?

AO1_AW_SW_USN
10-23-2005, 04:58 AM
Originally posted by Dominicrigg:
lolz, nice to see the Australians still carry British traditions http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Alchohol has been a part of the Royal Navy since it became a navy i think! Bit harsh not to have any at all, is that a left over of prohibition?


No, it€s not a throw back from the depression era€¦ that I know of.

It's mainly because crewmembers find way to network and obtain more beer that what they're allotted for. If you have beer on the ship, and you have money to spend, you can easily buy about 12 beers for under $50 American dollars. That's expensive, but if you look at it, there are a lot of people who are alcohol dependent.

Not only that, but an intoxicated crewmember is a safety hazard to others in that type of environment. You have heavy machinery to operate watches to stand and duties to perform that requires you to be 100% alert.

That€s why the US Navy does not allow alcohol on its ships, except for the very rare €œBeer Days€.

EDIT: Look at the "Self combusting torpedo-boats" thread to bolster my opinion!

Wyrmo
10-23-2005, 05:17 AM
Bah, the true enemy at sea is not alcohol...
It's water
I promise that near 100% of everyone who drowns at sea does that because of water
There.
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Maj_Solo
10-23-2005, 05:34 AM
room temp reveals the quality of the beer IMHO. Any beer can be percieved as tasting good when it is at fridge temp. If it tastes good and smells good at room temp then it probably is a pretty darn good beer. The warmer the beer the more flavour ... good and bad flavour. I drink almost all my beer at room temp cause they have beeen standing there but .... I prefer slightly cooled beer, like temp range 15 - 20 degree, if the beer is not top notch, cooling it will make it fresher, but still not so cool that the taste go away. All IMHO.

cirdan
10-23-2005, 05:58 AM
A ration of beer, used to be one can per night except if you were on night watch, was always routine in the RAN.If you had a mate who didn't drink bear then you could get his ration as well. Some sailors/submariners had a few mates and would cultivate an arrangement so they would get several rations each night. The mess I was in used to have a list so everyone got a turn at getting the non-beer drinkers rations. We(electricians) were more democratic than most. I believe the New Zealand Navy still get a tot of rum every night although that may have ceased in the last ten years or so. Perhaps someone from NZ could enlighten us if this tradition continues to this day.

U107Wolff
10-23-2005, 05:58 AM
Hehehe. ever seen the Dutch navy? They don't show beer, but something completely different. Man we had riots here in the Netherlands when those pics showed up in the newspaper. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

Dominicrigg
10-28-2005, 06:35 AM
lol

I just watched master and commander the other day. Not subs but still a great film!!

Love it in that when the captain is pished!

Another ration of grog for the men tonight!!

Its never done any harm for the RN, but i take your point ingame about the torp boats! Those guys are too pished to even load the torps! Lol

frog7
10-29-2005, 06:23 PM
played most of the night..i think i fell asleep on the contower....next thing i know was the WO screaming WAR SHIP of TO PORT and closing...made me fall out of my chair...lol great game.

Kaleun1961
10-29-2005, 06:31 PM
I think our American comrades get shortchanged on what they call "beer." When my infantry unit trained with the American helicopter unit that flew up to Ontario, they brought with them pyrotechnics to trade us for Canadian beer. For some reason they really like Molson Canadian or Ex.

AO1_AW_SW_USN
10-29-2005, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by Kaleun1961:
I think our American comrades get shortchanged on what they call "beer." When my infantry unit trained with the American helicopter unit that flew up to Ontario, they brought with them pyrotechnics to trade us for Canadian beer. For some reason they really like Molson Canadian or Ex.

Our regular domestic beer is really light compared to European, Canadian or Australlian beer. The strongest beer I've ever had was "Victoria Bitter" when I had a port visit in Australlia. Powerfull stuff http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Anytime I have a true European beer, I normally drink it at room temerature... just the way it should be!

But Molsen Ice is a good beer, and it beats out a lot of the American Domestic. But I stick with a Texas native beer called "Shiner Bock". It's brewed like an Irish Ale, and has a strong but smooth finish!

wnt2rd
10-30-2005, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by Maj_Solo:
room temp reveals the quality of the beer IMHO. Any beer can be percieved as tasting good when it is at fridge temp. If it tastes good and smells good at room temp then it probably is a pretty darn good beer. The warmer the beer the more flavour ... good and bad flavour. I drink almost all my beer at room temp cause they have beeen standing there but .... I prefer slightly cooled beer, like temp range 15 - 20 degree, if the beer is not top notch, cooling it will make it fresher, but still not so cool that the taste go away. All IMHO.

I agree with you. I'm not a really big fan of beer because of all the drinking involved. I love a good glass of Hennessy Cognac VS (if it's on sale) or any decent whiskey at room temperature. My usual is two shots of whiskey, almost 50% water, sip over 20-30 minutes. I usually buy Crown Royal or Seagrams, but I just got into Whiskey so I have no idea what I'm doing yet.

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Iver1943
10-30-2005, 07:14 AM
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Wild Turkey 101 Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whisky.
"Real Kentucky"

Smooooooooooooth and sooo Goooooooooood.

Drink it straight.
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Pr0metheus 1962
10-30-2005, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by Iver1943:
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Tonight I was getting into the game and I picked up my cold glass of beer and then I realized that if I were on an american sub, and not a German Sub, I could not have this beer at all. Yes I know the good stuff comes from Germany and England and in WWII their beer was not drank cold...

German beer (lager, not really beer) is kept cold, just like American beer (also lager, not beer). British beer (beer, not lager) is kept at a higher temperature. Only in Belgium do they celebrate a range of beers and lagers like those of England. The rest of Europe generally does the lager thing.

p-11.cAce
10-30-2005, 11:23 AM
The only good thing about living here (Covington Ky) is that I can ride my bike 5 miles to Newport and eat at one of the few Hofbrauhaus restraunts in the US. So since I am an unabashed geek I always pedal over there before a long SHIII session and drink a liter of Dunkel and enjoy a huge plate of jagerschnizel, potato pancakes, and sauerkraut. Prost!

Cpt.Crash_
10-30-2005, 11:50 AM
You should meet some Polish seamen if you want to learn about drinking at sea. The rule is: never drink on the watch. After the watch they use to consume such amounts of alcohol, that it defies all the knowledge of medicine science. Some time ago a merchant fleet seaman was found washed ashore (still alive http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ). His blood contained double the encyclopedic lethal amount of alcohol. That's not at all unusual http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Kaleun1961
10-30-2005, 02:23 PM
Perhaps all that alcohol acted as a life preserver. Since alcohol is lighter than water it helped him to float. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif