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NekoReaperman
12-17-2005, 09:47 AM
Will be we able to jettison the tail section and propellers to make a belly-landing?

VW-IceFire
12-17-2005, 11:04 AM
I had thought they were going to say no...that was not possible.

However, I imagine the game physics don't really make this a huge deal.

heywooood
12-17-2005, 11:14 AM
of all the possible addon planes on the horizon, this one is the most interesting to me...Ju88 Pe-2 and Mossie notwithstanding.

p1ngu666
12-17-2005, 01:40 PM
do335 be most interesting to fly, because its so different

SaQSoN
12-17-2005, 02:28 PM
Will be we able to jettison the tail section and propellers to make a belly-landing?
I don't think, it was jettisoned for the belly-landing. I think, it was for bailing out.

Atzebrueck
12-17-2005, 02:41 PM
As far as I know the lower fin could be jettisoned for belly landings.

joeap
12-17-2005, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by SaQSoN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Will be we able to jettison the tail section and propellers to make a belly-landing?
I don't think, it was jettisoned for the belly-landing. I think, it was for bailing out. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Holy cr#$ never even thought of that! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif IF it wasn't jettisoned before bail out that could hurt for sure. Nooneed to worry about being shot in your chute. Ground Luftwaffles anyone?

JadehawkII
12-17-2005, 05:45 PM
does it not have an ejection seat like the Go-229 has? If so, then I'm pretty sure Oleg and Co, will use this.

Choctaw111
12-17-2005, 07:21 PM
I would love to see the Do335 in this sim. The screenshots looked spectacular and the cockpit is gorgeous. Will we get this in a patch or is it just going to be abandoned after all of the hard work to bring it to fruition?

HunglikePony
12-18-2005, 01:56 AM
I thought was first piston engine plane with ejection seat? yes???

RocketDog
12-18-2005, 03:09 AM
The earlier He-219 "Uhu" night fighter also had ejection seats, so the 335 was second.

According to Eric Brown, the lower tail and rear prop could be jetisoned for a gear-up landing, the upper tail and prop for an ejection. By all accounts it was a very unreliable aircraft that had overheating problems with the read engine. An RAF test pilot was killed when the elevator control cables burned through following an engine fire on approach to landing.

Cheers,

RocketDog.

VW-IceFire
12-18-2005, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by Choctaw111:
I would love to see the Do335 in this sim. The screenshots looked spectacular and the cockpit is gorgeous. Will we get this in a patch or is it just going to be abandoned after all of the hard work to bring it to fruition?
It was in Oleg's list of possible aircraft that will be implemented cockpit + external.

berg417448
12-18-2005, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by HunglikePony:
I thought was first piston engine plane with ejection seat? yes???


He-219 had one first. Sweden also tested an ejection seat with an ejection of a dummy from a Saab B 17 on 27 Feb 1944.

Daiichidoku
12-18-2005, 09:55 AM
He 280 jet fighter was FIRST with EJseat

then He 219

AFAIK, both were pneumatic systems



the french had a two-seat 335 that was testiing shortly after the war

engine reliability was low, in spite of having german tech on the job, and they had also tested the EJ system, which was electrically fired explosive charges...it didnt work at all

Atzebrueck
12-18-2005, 10:03 AM
The ejection seat was propelled with pressurized air, not explosives. At least the cockpit contains a gauge for the pressure.
Or did you mean the explosives which were meant to jettison the fin and the propeller? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

JG53Harti
12-18-2005, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by berg417448:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HunglikePony:
I thought was first piston engine plane with ejection seat? yes???


He-219 had one first. Sweden also tested an ejection seat with an ejection of a dummy from a Saab B 17 on 27 Feb 1944. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Also tested in FW190 earlier series. They modified the cockpit of WNr. 0022

http://harti.equitatura.de/Bilder/FW190_EJ.jpg

Willey
12-19-2005, 05:05 PM
Atze, didn't you have a simple jpg animation of the bail-out process? I remember something like canopy off, rear prop off, vertical stab off, then eject with that seat.

I'm really looking forward to this beauty. And I hope we'll also get the different versions with 2 additional MK 103 in the wings and external bombracks, not just the "default" one, which still has 1 103, 2 151/15 and internal bombrack (500kg IIRC). Heck, there was even a version planned with 20mm instead of those 15mm for the better punch and an additional fuel tank instead of the bomb bay.

Atzebrueck
12-20-2005, 12:35 PM
Falkster made the flash animation. But unfortunately http://www.flugzeugwerk.net / http://www.do335.de.vu seems to be down.

About which version we might get:
As far as I can tell only the A0/A1 is possible, because for other models there are no 3d models. Neither a cockpit, nore an external model.
So 1 MK103 and 2 MG151 or MG151/20 (as a late war plane MG151/20 would be more correct IMO).

The one with additional MK103s in its wings and an additional fuel tank instead of the bomb bay is the B version which would require a different cockpit.

Gibbage1
12-20-2005, 02:10 PM
I modeled the A0. If I remeber correctly, the big differance between the A0 and A1 was the A1 had wing racks? I think the canopy was also slightly differant in the A1 by adding armor glass on two panels? Its been a long time and I may be wrong.

Willey
12-22-2005, 04:58 PM
Just found this one:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63110913/m...961002753#6961002753 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63110913/m/8371080943/r/6961002753#6961002753)

It hasn't been answered yet, so I'll just paste it in here:


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by skyiced:
Doing some research on the Do 335
http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/profile/d335hist.htm

Are such things planned for the flight model? I am sure there are many who are interested and torn as to what to expect from this plane. since it was to have a similar role as the 262 except had a 1000lb+ bomb load.

"Aside from its unusual engine layout, the design incorporated several other unusual features. These included a reversible-pitch tractor airscrew, to shorten the rather long landing run; a wing leading edge de-icing system; hydraulically operated flaps; a tunnel radiator for the rear engine and a compressed air powered ejection seat. The latter being essential for a safe bale-out clear of the rear propeller, although the vertical tail and propeller could be jettisoned by explosive bolts when required.

After initial handling trials at Oberpfaffenhofen, the Do 335 V1 was ferried to the Rechlin Erprobungstelle for official evaluation. Although some snaking and porpoising was found at high speeds, the Rechlin test pilots were generally enthusiastic. They commented favourably on its general handling behaviour, manoeuvrability and in particular on its acceleration and turning circle. However, they also criticised the very poor rearward vision and weak undercarriage."

"Capable of a maximum speed of 474 mph at 21,325 ft with MW 50 boost, or 426 mph without boost, and able to climb to 26,250 ft in only 14.5 minutes, the Do 335A-1 could easily outpace any Allied fighters it encountered. It could also carry a bomb load of 1100 lb for 900 miles."

reversible-pitch tractor airscrew, to shorten the rather long landing run; a wing leading edge de-icing system;

These will be not modelled. Other - yes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Which loadouts do we get?
Just internal bomb load? -> A-0
Additional bomb racks (and DB-603E engines)? -> A-1
Also what about B-1 with 20mm 151s and B-4 with additional wing mounted MK 103s? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So we'll most probably get the A-0, but I really hope for also the A-1 at least.

Abbuzze
12-24-2005, 05:20 AM
Originally posted by Atzebrueck:
Falkster made the flash animation. But unfortunately http://www.flugzeugwerk.net / http://www.do335.de.vu seems to be down.

About which version we might get:
As far as I can tell only the A0/A1 is possible, because for other models there are no 3d models. Neither a cockpit, nore an external model.
So 1 MK103 and 2 MG151 or MG151/20 (as a late war plane MG151/20 would be more correct IMO).

The one with additional MK103s in its wings and an additional fuel tank instead of the bomb bay is the B version which would require a different cockpit.

As far as I know, it was the 15mm version of the MG151, because the trajactory of the bullets were very similar to the MK103.

Kocur_
12-24-2005, 05:37 AM
Yup! MG151/15 was first. It fired 72g AP at 850m/s and 57g HE 960m/s.

MG151/20 used shortened 15mm version cases with set of 20mm projectiles from MG FF(/M).

My guess is that idea was that MK103 would use Minengeschoss (at 860m/s btw) exclusively while MG151/15 would fire APs only.

necrobaron
12-24-2005, 02:27 PM
I'm really looking forward to this beast. It's probably my favorite of the "wuenderwaffen" and in my opinion, it was among the most practical...

Willey
12-24-2005, 04:44 PM
Yes, they had similar trajectories. The 151 were some kind of support and aiming weapons, while the 103 would do most of the blast.

mgoyat
12-26-2005, 07:36 PM
Hi people, here's part of the readme file included with a Do335 model for X-Plane :


Handling.

Even though it is a very large and heavy fighter aircraft, it is still very maneuverable. The French and
German test pilots often commented on how nimble it was in the air and how good the turning radius was.

The aerodynamic effects of the propellers work as follows:

A propeller will generate lift, perpendicular to the thrust line. The forward engine will create a
pitch up moment (destabilizing) and the aft propeller will generate a pitch down moment (stabilizing).

If you fly this aircraft with one engine shut down, you will notice different handling characteristics.

With the aft engine shut down, the aircraft is more sensitive in pitch and less stable and will
stall a lot easier.
With the fwd engine shut down the opposite occurs. Quite interesting that X-plane actually works correctly!

womenfly
12-27-2005, 10:02 AM
" Flying the Pfeil was an experience, thanks to its high performance and unusual configuration. While the performance provided an exhilarating ride for the pilot, the configuration prompted some doubts. His main concern was the ejection seat, the Do 335 being only the second production type to feature this (after the Saab J21). Before firing the seat, explosive bolts which held the upper vertical tail surface and rear propeller were fired to clear a way for the egressing pilot. Despite the ejection seat, he had to jettison the canopy manually. As another safety feature, the lower vertical tail surface was jettisonable in case a wheels-up landing was attempted. "

Dornier Do 335A-1 Pfeil "Arrow" (http://www.kotfsc.com/aviation/do-335.htm)

Aaron_GT
12-27-2005, 10:10 AM
I read a story, which may be an urban legend, that one of the early Do335 flights crashed and the test pilot was found without arms. The story runs that the explosive bolts that ejected the canopy were actuated by pulling levers or similar devices on the canopy itself, but that the levers were attached to the canopy and when ejected they took the pilot's arms with them meaning he was no longer able to press the button to fire the ejection seat. Anyone know if this is myth or truth?

alert_1
12-28-2005, 10:24 AM
read a story, which may be an urban legend, that one of the early Do335 flights crashed and the test pilot was found without arms. The story runs that the explosive bolts that ejected the canopy were actuated by pulling levers or similar devices on the canopy itself, but that the levers were attached to the canopy and when ejected they took the pilot's arms with them meaning he was no longer able to press the button to fire the ejection seat. Anyone know if this is myth or truth?
Pure BS

luftluuver
12-28-2005, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by Aaron_GT:
I read a story, which may be an urban legend, that one of the early Do335 flights crashed and the test pilot was found without arms. The story runs that the explosive bolts that ejected the canopy were actuated by pulling levers or similar devices on the canopy itself, but that the levers were attached to the canopy and when ejected they took the pilot's arms with them meaning he was no longer able to press the button to fire the ejection seat. Anyone know if this is myth or truth?

As was said, pure BS. The canopy release handles were attached to the fuselage.

ejection operation:

- 3 buttons had to be pushed > 1 to blow off the prop, 1 to blow off the upper fin/rudder, 1 to arm the seat

- after pressing the 3 buttons the pilot then pulled the 2 large canopy release levers

- the pilot could then eject, hoping there was enough compressed air for the seat to clear the a/c

RocketDog
12-28-2005, 12:34 PM
Eric Brown was told this story by Luftwaffe POWs when he collected a Do 335 to take back to the UK in the immediate post-war months. From what I can recall of his account, the cockpit release handles actually were attached to the canopy.

Cheers,

RocketDog.

luftluuver
12-28-2005, 02:16 PM
The port release handle can be seen framed by the port lower panel of the windscreen.

http://www.luftwaffepics.com/LCBW/DO-335Cockpit-4.jpg

The starboard position of the release handle.

http://www.luftwaffepics.com/LCBW/DO-335Cockpit-3.jpg

Willey
01-05-2006, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by mgoyat:
Hi people, here's part of the readme file included with a Do335 model for X-Plane

Where can I get it? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

mgoyat
01-08-2006, 03:12 AM
Originally posted by Willey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mgoyat:
Hi people, here's part of the readme file included with a Do335 model for X-Plane

Where can I get it? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think i saw it at Xplane.org. Was a long time ago : you should be able to find it via google anyway.

Liberator_13th
02-02-2006, 07:37 AM
In the game it can jettison verticle tail fin on bail out. It has a bomb bay. It's extremely cool... All I'm saying.

Philipscdrw
02-02-2006, 09:35 AM
When you eject from the He-162 and Gotha, part of the aircraft flies upwards (the ejector seat) and the pilot then bails out of the seat. I'm sure that the same technique could be used to make the fins and prop fly off when bailing out.

I wouldn't expect the ventral (underside) fin to be removable though.

WUAF-Biker
02-02-2006, 09:48 AM
Bomb bay ......?????

Is this really correct? I saw the very last real D0 335 when it was on exhibit at the German Museum in Munich. It was newly restored at the german Dornier factory. And it didn´t have a bomb bay.
This same plane is now at the Smithsonian in Washington.

Greets,

Biker

berg417448
02-02-2006, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by WUAF-Biker:
Bomb bay ......?????

Is this really correct? I saw the very last real D0 335 when it was on exhibit at the German Museum in Munich. It was newly restored at the german Dornier factory. And it didn´t have a bomb bay.
This same plane is now at the Smithsonian in Washington.

Greets,

Biker


Yes. It had an internal weapons bay. This model gives a better view of the position that you can see in most photographs:

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal2/1701-1800/Ga..._Do-335_Meier/12.jpg (http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal2/1701-1800/Gal1733_Do-335_Meier/12.jpg)

WUAF-Biker
02-02-2006, 10:15 AM
Look at this... http://cip.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de/~vernalek/Do335.html (http://cip.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de/%7Evernalek/Do335.html)

This was the way i saw her at the German Museum in Munich. I stood in front of her, and i was a young boy. I didnt see any bomb bay doors or sth like that. But ok... i don´t want to argue about things i don´t fully know. Maybe it is another variant or sth like it. At least my dream comes true... flyable Do 335. This plane was once the only cause i played CFS 3... and was frustrated...


Greets,

Biker

Liberator_13th
02-02-2006, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by WUAF-Biker:
This same plane is now at the Smithsonian in Washington.

Greets,

Biker

What????
I just went to the Smithsonian recently and didn't see it. Was it moved there recently???
I guess I'll have to go there again. Darn.

WUAF-Biker
02-02-2006, 01:06 PM
As far as i know it isn´t on exhibition there yet. It was restored in the 1970 in Germany, then it was on exhibition in Munich till 1989, then shipped to the Garber Restoration Facility and is now waitng to be presented in the Smithsonians... But as far as i know... no bomb bay

luftluuver
02-02-2006, 01:46 PM
Just about all you would want to know about the 335

Monarch 2, Dornier 335 Arrow
Hardcover: 184 pages
Publisher: Monogram Aviation Publications; [Rev. ed.] edition (January 16, 1998)
Language: English
ISBN: 0914144529


Yes Biker the 335 could carry up to 1000kg in its bomb bay.

Bomb loads:
8 - SD50
2 - SD250
1 - SC500
2 - SD500
1 - PC1000
1 - SC1000

Some good quality scale drawings, http://www.albentley-drawings.com/dornier_do335.htm

WUAF-Biker
02-02-2006, 10:55 PM
Well ok then... Great! Everyday we learn something new.I love the Do 335, and i look forward so much to get it flyable in this sim, which is my all time favourite game...allmost can´t stand the waiting time....


Greets,

Biker

Tooz_69GIAP
02-02-2006, 11:15 PM
Yes, the Pfeil could carry a decent load, but what was the loadout for the Do-335 A-0 (the one we are getting)? Is it the same, or more, or less??

luftluuver
02-03-2006, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by Tooz_69GIAP:
Yes, the Pfeil could carry a decent load, but what was the loadout for the Do-335 A-0 (the one we are getting)? Is it the same, or more, or less?? Why would it not be the same since the A-1 is the production version of the A-0.

But one never knows. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Bartolomeo_ita
02-03-2006, 01:44 AM
nice-funny plane http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif thx!

woofiedog
02-03-2006, 04:28 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8c/Do_335A-0.jpg/300px-Do_335A-0.jpg

http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/profile/d335hist.htm
http://www.kotfsc.com/aviation/do-335.htm
http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero/aircraft/dornier_do335.htm

http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/fww2/do335/do335-7.jpg

http://www.kotfsc.com/aviation/graphics/seat335.jpg

The Do 335 V11 (CP+UL) and V12 (CP+UM) were prototypes for the Do 335A-10 and A-12 dual control conversion trainers respectively. The former having DB603A engines and the latter DB603E powerplants. The instructor occupied the second cockpit - although without an ejection seat, due to production shortages. Production examples were interspersed with the A-1 on the same production line.

As the war situation continued to deteriorate, development effort switched from the A-series fighter-bomber to the more heavily armed B-series heavy fighter. The Do 335 V13 (RP+UA) was the prototype of the Do 335B-1 which featured a revised nose undercarriage arrangement - the larger wheel being tilted at 45 degrees when fully retracted, a V-shaped armoured windscreen and DB603E engines. It's weapons bay was replaced by an additional fuel tank, and the two 15 mm MG151 cannon in the nose replaced by 20 mm MG151s. The B-4 prototype, Do 335 V14 (RP+UB) had this armament supplemented by two 30 mm MK103 cannon mounted on the inner wing leading edges. Only the two B-series prototypes were actually completed and flown - further developments were still under construction, some with two-stage supercharger DB603LA engines capable of 2100 hp.

Plagued by mechanical unreliability and lack of aviation fuel, the operational career of the Do 335 is rather obscure. Do 335A-0 and A-1 aircraft are thought to have flown a number of operational missions with EK335. Some were also used by III/KG2 in the Spring of 1945. There is no evidence of the type being met in combat, so it seems likely that all the operations were high speed interdiction missions - many taking place at night.

Production Numbers
When the US Army overran the Oberpfaffenhofen factory in late April 1945, only 11 Do 335A-1 single seat fighter-bombers and two Do 335A-12 conversion trainers had been completed. A further nine A-1's, four A-4's and two A- 12's were in final assembly, and components and assemblies for nearly 70 more had been completed. Heinkel at Vienna had been unable to build any Do 335A-6 night fighters.

A number of planned developments of the Do 335 were on the drawing board when the war ended, including several big-winged high altitude fighter versions, the Do535 with a jet rear engine, the Do635 (later Ju 8-635) long range reconnaissance version which featured twin fuselages linked by a common wing centre section, and the P.256 twin jet fighter.

As part of Operation Seahorse, two of the surviving A-0 single seaters were put aboard the US aircraft carrier 'Reaper' and shipped back to the USA, for detailed evaluation by the US Navy. The two airworthy A-12 two seaters were flown to Britain and flight tested at RAE Farnborough. Both were destroyed in crashes. Two of the B-series prototypes were also evaluated by the CEV in France.

Today, the sole remaining example of this unique type is on display at the new Udvar-Hazy Center (the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum at Dulles Airport, Virginia, USA). Do 335A-0 VP+GH (Wk Nr. 240102) was one of the two examples evaluated at the US Navy's Patuxent River Test Center in 1945. Thereafter, it languished in open storage for 27 years in the grounds of the National Air & Space Museum (NASM) storage facility at Silver Hill. In October 1974 the decaying airframe was flown back to Munich, for a complete restoration by Dornier Aircraft at Oberpfaffenhofen (then building Alphajets). The magnificently restored aircraft was first displayed at the Hannover Airshow, 1-9 May 1976, and then loaned to the Deutches Museum, Munich, for a several years before returning to the NASM.


Do 335 Production List

Do 335V series prototypes, 14 aircraft built at Friedrichshafen, mid 1943 to mid 1944,
and tested at Mengen.
Model Code Werk Nr. Notes

Do 335V-1 CP+UA 230001 1st prototype. DB603A-1 engines. FF 28.10.43
Do 335V-2 CP+UB 230002 to Rechlin, rear engine caught fire, w/o 15.04.44
Do 335V-3 CP+UC/T9+ZH 230003 A-4 prototype, to Ob.d.L.
Do 335V-4 CP+UD 230004 Do 435 prototype, not completed
Do 335V-5 CP+UE 230005 1st with armament fitted, A-2 engines
Do 335V-6 CP+UF 230006 Dornier development a/c, hit by bomb
Do 335V-7 CP+UG 230007 Junkers Jumo 213A & E testbed, Dessau
Do 335V-8 CP+UH 230008 Daimler-Benz DB603E-1 testbed, Stuttgart
Do 335V-9 CP+UI/V9 230009 A-0 prototype, to Rechlin May 1944
Do 335V-10 CP+UK 230010 A-6 prototype night ftr with SN-2 radar
Do 335V-11 CP+UL/11 230011 A-10 prototype trainer
Do 335V-12 CP+UM 230012 A-12 prototype trainer
Do 335V-13 RP+UA/13 230013 B-1 prototype, to France for tests
Do 335V-14 RP+UB/14 230014 B-2 prototype, destroyed


Do 335A-0 pre-production batch, 10 aircraft built at Oberpfaffenhofen July-Oct 1944.
One example converted to A-4 standard.
Model Code Werk Nr. Notes

Do 335A-0 VG+PG/101 240101 DB603A-2 engines, at Rechlin July 1944
Do 335A-0 VG+PH/102 240102 sole survivor, to USAAF as FE 1012, now at NASM
Do 335A-0 VG+PI/103 240103 to Ob.d.L. late July 1944
Do 335A-0 VG+IJ/104 240104 to Erkdo 335 Sept 1944
Do 335A-0 VG+IK/105 240105 to Erkdo 335 captured by US at Lechfeld 4.45
Do 335A-0 VG+PL/106 240106 to Erkdo 335
Do 335A-0 VG+PM/107 240107 to Erkdo 335
Do 335A-0 VG+PN/108 240108 to Erkdo 335
Do 335A-0 VG+PO/109 240109 to Erkdo 335
Do 335A-0 VG+PP/110 240110 to Erkdo 335 Oct 1944

Do 335A-1 production batch. 11 aircraft built at Oberpfaffenhofen,
plus 9 aircraft part assembled, Nov-April 1945.
Model Code Werk Nr. Notes

Do 335A-1 113 240113 Captured by US
Do 335A-1 240161 Captured by US
Do 335A-1 240162 Captured by US
Do 335A-1 240163 Captured by US
Do 335A-1 240164 Captured by US
Do 335A-1 240165 Captured by US
Do 335A-1 240166 Captured by US
Do 335A-1 240167 Captured by US
Do 335A-1 240168 Captured by US
Do 335A-1 240169 Captured by US
Do 335A-1 240170 Captured by US
Do 335A-1 01 240301 Partly assembled Captured by US
Do 335A-1 02 240302 Partly assembled Captured by US
Do 335A-1 03 240303 Partly assembled Captured by US
Do 335A-1 04 240304 Partly assembled Captured by US
Do 335A-1 05 240305 Partly assembled Captured by US
Do 335A-1 06 240306 Partly assembled Captured by US
Do 335A-1 07 240307 Partly assembled Captured by US
Do 335A-1 08 240308 Partly assembled Captured by US
Do 335A-1 09 240309 Partly assembled Captured by US


Do 335A-2 project only
Do 335A-3 project only

Do 335A-4 10 aircraft scheduled Jan-Feb 1945, only 4 part assembled at
Oberpfaffenhofen.
Model Code Werk Nr. Notes

Do 335A-4 10 240310 Partly assembled Captured by US
Do 335A-4 11 240311 Partly assembled Captured by US
Do 335A-4 12 240312 Partly assembled Captured by US
Do 335A-4 13 240313 Partly assembled Captured by US


Do 335A-6 none assembled, Heinkel Vienna factory bombed out.

Do 335A-10 aircraft built at Oberpfaffenhofen.
Model Code Werk Nr. Notes

Do 335A-10 111 240111 flew late Nov 1944. Captured by US at Oberpf.
Do 335A-10 240114 not completed


Do 335A-12. 2 aircraft built at Oberpfaffenhofen, plus 2 aircraft part assembled.
Model Code Werk Nr. Notes

Do 335A-12 112 240112 Air Min 225, to RAE, w/o 18 Jan 1946
Do 335A-12 121 240121 to England, w/o 13 Dec 1945
Do 335A-12 122 240122 not completed, scrapped by US
Do 335A-12 Partly assembled

Do 335B series prototypes. 6 aircraft part assembled at Oberpfaffenhofen.
Model Code Werk Nr. Notes

Do 335B-2 RP+UB 14/18 240118 B-2 replacement proto, to France with CEV until 4.6.48
Do 335V-15 RP+UC 15/19 240119 B-1 2nd prototype to Lwe 2.45
Do 335V-16 RP+UD 16/20 240120 B-2 2nd prototype night ftr with FuG 218
Do 335V-17 RP+UE 17/16 240116 B-6 prototype to France w/o Autumn 45
Do 335V-18 RP+UF 18/17 240117 B-6 2nd prototype night ftr to Lwe 2.45
Do 335V-19 RP+UG 19/15 240115 B-3 prototype not completed
Do 335V-20 B-7 prototype not completed
Do 335V-21 B-8 prototype not completed
Do 335V-22 B-8 2nd prototype not completed

WUAF-Biker
02-03-2006, 05:17 AM
Yeah... the one on the colour photo is exactly the plane that was on exhibition in the Deutsche Museum in Munich (without swastika of course!!!) It is a really huge plane. As i saw her there as a 15 year old boy i could fairly reach to its wing. It´s the last plane of this type on earth. Damn, i wish they would restore her to flying condition. Imagine this bird at an airshow going full speed.......

Biker

luftluuver
02-03-2006, 05:23 AM
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-12/1114844/Do335-data02-1.jpg

Willey
02-04-2006, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by luftluuver:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tooz_69GIAP:
Yes, the Pfeil could carry a decent load, but what was the loadout for the Do-335 A-0 (the one we are getting)? Is it the same, or more, or less?? Why would it not be the same since the A-1 is the production version of the A-0.

But one never knows. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The A-0 had that bomb bay capable of carrying 1x500kg, 2x250kg or 8x50/70kg bombs. With some modifications AFAIK, it could even load a 1000kg bomb. It had the DB-603A engines with 1750hp TO power and 1580hp combat power.
The production model A-1 had 2 DB-603E engines instead, which gave 1800hp TO power and 1575hp combat power. That version was also fitted with a MW-50 system, which allowed to raise the power to 2260hp with WEP for 10 minutes. The only other difference were the external wing bomb racks outboard of the gear bays which could carry a 250kg bomb, 4 50/70kg bombs (ER-4 intermediate rack) or a 300l droptank each.

Those armor glasses were part of the B Zerst¶rer series, which also got 20mm cannons and additional wing mounted MK 103s (built in just like in the Spits).

Therefore I'd say, it would not be much of a problem to model the A-1 from the A-0 we're supposed to get.

luftluuver
02-04-2006, 12:55 PM
Willey, can I go back and edit my post for that is what I wanted to say, really. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif