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TgD Thunderbolt56
09-09-2004, 09:25 AM
Just curious if anyone can make a suggestion to a good, professional quality headset/mic combo. I've looked at the AKG HSC 200PC (approx. $200 USD) and the Sennheiser HMD280-Pro (approx. $250 USD).

I'm not concerned whether or not they have 1/8" or 1/4" connectors. I can accommodate both.

Thx


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TgD Thunderbolt56
09-09-2004, 09:25 AM
Just curious if anyone can make a suggestion to a good, professional quality headset/mic combo. I've looked at the AKG HSC 200PC (approx. $200 USD) and the Sennheiser HMD280-Pro (approx. $250 USD).

I'm not concerned whether or not they have 1/8" or 1/4" connectors. I can accommodate both.

Thx


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jetsetsam
09-09-2004, 09:56 AM
I've had a Plantronic DSP 500 headset for the last year and I'm very happy with the sound quality.

They look a bit "plasticy" but are light and comfortable. They have been dropped uncounted times and stepped just about every week and still keep going.

Just don't plug the usb plug into a usb connection that shares an IRQ (?) with your video card. Bad stutters.

TgD Thunderbolt56
09-09-2004, 10:05 AM
I do NOT want to get a USB headset.

I've looked around and have used sets from Plantronics and currently use the Altec-Lansing AHS 502. It's a good set but I'm hard on them and am looking for something more...em...substantial.

Thx for the reply.

TB


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XyZspineZyX
09-09-2004, 10:21 AM
Beyer DT 109

blairgowrie
09-09-2004, 11:20 AM
I have the AKG HSD 200. I got it after trying 2 different Plantronics models. The AKG headset is superb and I highly recommend.

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TgD Thunderbolt56
09-09-2004, 12:42 PM
Good enough for me...they're on the way.

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blairgowrie
09-09-2004, 01:50 PM
You will be happy with them Thunderbolt. My good friend B16Enk, from over the pond, has them and recommended them to me.

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Capt.LoneRanger
09-09-2004, 02:46 PM
Plantronics Audio 90

A good headset for a reasonable price. Though it's on the market for quite a while now, it still wins most tests.

Just ordered mine, after reading through a lot of reviews. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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JG27GUNDOG
09-09-2004, 07:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TgD Thunderbolt56:
Just curious if anyone can make a suggestion to a good, professional quality headset/mic combo. I've looked at the AKG HSC 200PC (approx. $200 USD) and the Sennheiser HMD280-Pro (approx. $250 USD).

I'm not concerned whether or not they have 1/8" or 1/4" connectors. I can accommodate both.

Thx

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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This site has the biggest selection I have ever seen.

http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/default.php?cPath=31_192&osCsid=dd5c6ac239f95a12dc97251b3d155253

How about a headset with forcefeedback? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=31_192&products_id=1117

Bikewer
09-09-2004, 07:12 PM
Another vote for the Plantronics dsp500. Has a built-in "sound card", and it's very directional. Invaluable in WWII online, as you can zero in on enemy armor before you can see em'.

bail0ut
09-10-2004, 06:09 AM
blairgowrie,

Any idea where you can pick up a pair of thos in Canada (toronto area)?

bail0ut

blairgowrie
09-10-2004, 09:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bail0ut:
blairgowrie,

Any idea where you can pick up a pair of thos in Canada (toronto area)?

bail0ut<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I got mine from Tele-Tech, 211 Telson Road, Markham. Phone number is (905) 475-5646.

I paid C$185.00 for my headset. He said he had had it in the store a while. He is an AKG authorized dealer and gets them from a distibutor in Montreal.

I had a Plantronics DSP500 before I got the AKG headset. The Plantronics unit was a toy compared to the quality of the AKG unit.

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mortoma
09-10-2004, 09:58 AM
I have a cheap Altec Lansing thing I bought at Best Buy a while back. And while it is not "professional" quailty, I get great results with it and it has a mic on it too. I even listen to music with it and it's satisfying. I sure saved the $$$ on it.

TgD-Sammie
09-10-2004, 10:59 AM
Hey TB, you might want to check out the Zalman Surround Sound's: http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/product/view.asp?idx=110&code=023

There isn't a mic with them, but I just use a cheap little boom mic and put it on the desk. It picks up good sound from a distance (you hear me ok on comms right?). The Zalman headphones sound awesome too!

Thanks,
Sammie
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TgD Thunderbolt56
09-10-2004, 11:07 AM
Hey Sammie! Couldn't remember the brand of the ones you had, but the "no mic" thing is a drawback for me right now. I picked up the AKG HSD SR and was excited when they landed yesterday only to find I had ordered the "open-end" set. (which means they had no connector jacks on the wires! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif ) I took them to an A/V specialist who generously put some 1/4" jacks on them for me (preferred since I have the Audigy 2 ZS Platinum card with the 1/4" connections on the front)

Now if I can only get power back to my house and try them out before Ivan comes a calling. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/cry.gif


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bail0ut
09-10-2004, 03:38 PM
Thanks for the information blairgowrie

I live downtown, but I might make the drive to up north to check them out.

For those other in the Toronto area, if you are on Rogers high speed cable you can upgraded to the "extreme" version and it is REALLY fast (download speeds in the 400-500 realm). The monthly cost is the same but you have to buy the modem for 80 bucks (plus tax http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif ). I'm getting shot down ant almost twice the speed http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

bail0ut

blairgowrie
09-10-2004, 03:58 PM
If I were you I would give them a call and see if they have any in stock before you make the trip. They are a high end audio store for professional musicians and have some real quality stuff. Worth a visit just to see the stuff they have.

You are fortunate to be able to get high speed service. I see on the Telsat site they are talking about wireless broadband using the new Anik F2 satellite being available in late October for about the same price as cable.

You will really appreciate the AKG headset if you decide to get one. I am amazed that people will lay down a chunk of cash for a video card which may have a life of 3 years or some ultra fast RAM so they can oc, but won't spend the dough on a good headset which will likely last them a lifetime. I intend to have my AKG headset buried with me so that I can talk to my Seattle buddies on TeamSpeak.

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bail0ut
09-10-2004, 07:51 PM
I agree 100% - I have a great pair of bose headphones, but no mic. I have been using a platronics one and while it is not bad, the two don't compare in terms of quality. Unfortunately, for Teamspeak, I am forced to use the platronics set.

I'll give them a call, as I am alse a fairly avid guitar player (bury me with my Gibson ES-335).

Thanks again

bail0ut

mortoma
09-10-2004, 11:13 PM
The sound in just about any sim or PC is not even close to high fidelity, so I don't understand why some of you guys need such expensive professional quality stuff. The highest sampling rate for the sound you can set is indeed as high as CD music, ( 44,100Khz ). But the frequency response of the sound in FB is probaby no wider than 100 to 10,000Hz, which can easily be reproduced well by even an average Walkman quality stereo headset. You guys act like you are audiophiles listening to high quality music. Any headset that costs more than $30.00 is probably a waste for computer games. The signal to noise ratio of most PC game sound is not all that great either. Nobody one earth could tell the difference between expensive and cheap headphones when listening to a PC game. My $20.00 Altec Lansing foam ( sub-aural ) headset most likely sounds as good as anything you guys have and is good enough. And you don't need an exceptional mic either. Any average dynamic mic will do the job. You don't need a mic like they use in a professional recording studio or anything even close!!!

mortoma
09-10-2004, 11:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by blairgowrie:
If I were you I would give them a call and see if they have any in stock before you make the trip. They are a high end audio store for professional musicians and have some real quality stuff. Worth a visit just to see the stuff they have.

You are fortunate to be able to get high speed service. I see on the Telsat site they are talking about wireless broadband using the new Anik F2 satellite being available in late October for about the same price as cable.

You will really appreciate the AKG headset if you decide to get one. I am amazed that people will lay down a chunk of cash for a video card which may have a life of 3 years or some ultra fast RAM so they can oc, but won't spend the dough on a good headset which will likely last them a lifetime. I intend to have my AKG headset buried with me so that I can talk to my Seattle buddies on TeamSpeak.

http://img14.photobucket.com/albums/v41/blairgowrie/FBWebpage.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Who cares if a headset lasts a lifetime or not? The PC game sound is not ( as I said mentioned in my last post ) all that great. Cheap stuff, when it gets old you can just throw away and buy a new one. I can get 3 or 4 years from a stupid piece of plactic with foam ear pads and it ain't even close to as heavy as what you guys are talking about. I have two sets of expensive aircraft headsets that I use when I fly planes, and I could easily adapt them to be used with a PC. But why bother?? Not worth the time.

blairgowrie
09-11-2004, 06:03 AM
You raise several good points mortoma.

I just found that the light weight headsets hurt my ears, after a while, or had a tendency to slip off. Must be the shape of my head or ears, I guess.

I also had sound conflicts (as did Hunter) with the Plantronics USB headsets which caused FB to crash. The conflicts went away when I swtiched to the AKG headset.

It was not my intention to put anyone down in this thread. The cheaper, lighter headsets just didn't work for me.

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bail0ut
09-11-2004, 06:22 AM
mortoma,

As I mentioned in my earlier post I tend to use both a platronics headset and a higher quality (my opinion of course) headset. I do agree that the platronics headset is more that good enough for FB, however, it simply does not have some of the nice features that the higer quality headset has (such as noise cancellation, comfort), which I believe are equally important.

Either way, you are entitled to your opinion and it is interesting to see what the community feels is important to them. Whether it's a slightly improved audio experience, are an extra 5 FPS from a $600 video card.

bail0ut

griego
09-11-2004, 09:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mortoma:
The sound in just about any sim or PC is not even close to high fidelity, so I don't understand why some of you guys need such expensive professional quality stuff. The highest sampling rate for the sound you can set is indeed as high as CD music, ( 44,100Khz ). But the frequency response of the sound in FB is probaby no wider than 100 to 10,000Hz, which can easily be reproduced well by even an average Walkman quality stereo headset. You guys act like you are audiophiles listening to high quality music. Any headset that costs more than $30.00 is probably a waste for computer games. The signal to noise ratio of most PC game sound is not all that great either. Nobody one earth could tell the difference between expensive and cheap headphones when listening to a PC game. My $20.00 Altec Lansing foam ( sub-aural ) headset most likely sounds as good as anything you guys have and is good enough. And you don't need an exceptional mic either. Any average dynamic mic will do the job. You don't need a mic like they use in a professional recording studio or anything even close!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


You should try a set of AHS 502's headphones.
the sound is great compared to a cheeper set if fact the sound is so crisp and clear you can hear a deep base the seem to shake you.
There also great for not disturbing the wife.
With the cheaper set I had before the AHS 502's she could hear the sound of the game, but with this set you can't. Also you don't hear anything but the game when your wearing them. No distractions.

I just can't understand why you would want to by a more expensive set when if these break I can afford to by another set easily.

T_O_A_D
09-11-2004, 09:50 AM
TB so where did you find them?

I think Mort means well even though he seems a bit Brash sometimes.

Have you checked your Private Topics recently? (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=ugtpc&s=400102)
My TrackIR fix, Read the whole thread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=49310655&m=15310285&p=1)
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TgD Thunderbolt56
09-11-2004, 10:26 AM
I got mine here: http://bhphotovideo.com/

Cary in the Pro Audio department was quite helpful. If Hunter can't get them for you, call B&H. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/10.gif


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SithSpeeder
09-11-2004, 10:52 AM
The one main advantage IMO to USB is that (depending on your soundcard) you can set up your voice comms to be the ONLY thing coming through your headphones.

For me, I have one of those 5 speaker systems (2 front, 2 back, one subwoofer) which really makes the in-game sounds enjoyable. But I have an analog headset/mic combo. This means that both voice comms AND game sounds are coming through both the speakers and the headset.

An optimal configuration would be a light USB headset/mic (probably only one ear) that would be open enough for me to hear game sounds from my external speakers (so I can hear engine sounds, ordinance going off, etc.), but that would still put the voice comms just in my ear (cuz some of you guys have booming voices that make my subwoofer work OT).

I too have 2 small kids and a wife, but they are all OK with me playing late at night with the sound on. YMMV http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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B.S._Lag
09-11-2004, 11:02 AM
I have a set of the AHS 502's. It's the best headphone/mic combo that I have ever bought. You cant beat the quality sound.
Hunter82 does have them at his site.

https://magnum-pc.securewebsiteserver.net/product_info.php?cPath=32&products_id=306&osCsid=20c2c546805bdb98977cba7121b2baac

TgD Thunderbolt56
09-12-2004, 12:16 PM
Update: I plugged in my AKG HSD 200 set last night and after using the AHS 502's for over a year prior to this...WOW! The sound is clearer, more precise and the mic is light years above my old ones.

I know many want to try to justify seemingly frivolous purchases of peripheral hardware and $200 for a headset/mic seems an awful lot, but the difference is noticeable. I'm going to wring these out more tonight, but thus far I'm quite pleased.

My only criticism is the absence of a mic on/off switch. I usually fly with voice activation on my mic and simply turn it off when the situation warrants it. I may have to change to push-to-talk.


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blairgowrie
09-12-2004, 01:27 PM
That's great news Thunderbolt. I knew you wouldn't be disappointed.

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Jenny_B
09-17-2004, 04:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TgD-Sammie:
Hey TB, you might want to check out the Zalman Surround Sound's: http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/product/view.asp?idx=110&code=023

There isn't a mic with them, but I just use a cheap little boom mic and put it on the desk.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There's a clip-on mic: http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/product/view.asp?idx=113&code=

--Jenny