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klower
07-22-2005, 08:59 PM
Purely out of morbid curiosity, the same thing that makes me stare at a car wreck or a really ugly person, I undertook to read all 29 pages of the P-38 L "Late" thread. I feel dirty, but that's my problem.

ElAurens posted a letter from the cheif engineer of Alison, dated December 12, 1942 discussing reports of combat units overboosting the V-1710 motors in the p-40 to 70" map to produce 1780 hp. What I want to know is when are we going to get a 1942 1780 hp p-40E in the game. The most I can get today is 45", I think that corresponds to the listed 1150 hp. This would be an entirely different airplane with an additional 630 hp.

Does anyone else want to see the high boost in the game?

Klower

LStarosta
07-22-2005, 09:40 PM
Count me in.

3.JG51_BigBear
07-22-2005, 09:45 PM
Does the document give any indication as to how common a practice this was and for how long the engine could maintain 1780 horse without going boom?

Cajun76
07-22-2005, 10:24 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/3351093733/p/20


Here is the relevent page^

"Some pilots admit operating for prolonged periods at around 70" Hg. (20lbs./sq.in.) of boost."

HotelBushranger
07-22-2005, 10:35 PM
Wouldn't it just be easier to include a later version P-40?

3.JG51_BigBear
07-22-2005, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by Cajun76:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/3351093733/p/20


Here is the relevent page^

"Some pilots admit operating for prolonged periods at around 70" Hg. (20lbs./sq.in.) of boost."

That Allison rep didn't seem too optomistic about it.

Cajun76
07-22-2005, 10:54 PM
Of course, any failures that result looks bad on them, he's touting the company line. He still reports that they were doing it "for prolonged periods", and I imagine he would have noted a rash of failures if it was a big problem.

Later on he says "We apprieciate that the fighter units must of necessity balance out engine performance against combat performance."

Apparently 70" was this balance. He seems more concerned with the newer Allisons with higher blower ratios not taking it than with the current models being boosted.

darkhorizon11
07-22-2005, 11:50 PM
That plane would be the alpha and the omega with that many horses. Flying that thing online or off (if it was modeled correctly) I would truly be a shark in a goldfish tank.

Actually, it makes me chuckle just thinking about the luftwaffle whine threads that would stem from it.

ElAurens
07-23-2005, 08:43 AM
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Do remember that that degree of performance increase was only available at lower levels. But is is pretty to think about.

And yes HotelBushranger, to this day I don't understand why the P40N is not in the game.


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ElAurens
07-23-2005, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by HotelBushranger:
Wouldn't it just be easier to include a later version P-40?

No, as that would require a totally new 3D model.
The 70 inch MAP would just take a change to some code parameters.

This would be a big benefit to the P40M we currently have in game.

klower
07-24-2005, 09:20 AM
Actually, the letter applies to the p-40e. I think the p-40m has the higher blower ratio that the letter warns about.

HotelBushranger
07-25-2005, 03:07 AM
And yes HotelBushranger, to this day I don't understand why the P40N is not in the game.


No, as that would require a totally new 3D model

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif Make up your mind there mate, contradicted yourself lol. IMO P-40N would be teh shiz-nizzle of this game, and would make for some good 1 on 1 matches with the Ki-61 I reckon. If I can remember, main differences the N had with M is its longer, can't remember any others http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

ElAurens
07-25-2005, 05:33 AM
I am saying that the P40N should have been in from the beginning.

And...

It is too late to add it because it would require an entire new 3D model, and there is no time for one to be made. The M and N are the same length, but there are huge differences in the rear cockpit structure and canopy.

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