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XyZspineZyX
10-25-2004, 09:28 PM
Waiting eagerly for PF to come out, I'm back on a WW2 movie binge... What high quality WW2 movies would you recommend?

I already stuck Patton on my Netflix queue...

Historical accuracy and realism are important to me, so **** like Pearl Harbor should stay out of this thread except perhaps to make fun of it. Aviation of course is high on the list of what would make the movie worth seeing!

So, what would you recommend to your fellow Sturmovik fans?

XyZspineZyX
10-25-2004, 09:30 PM
(Sorry, I meant to put this in General... oh well.)

Oilburner_TAW
10-25-2004, 09:31 PM
Battle of Britain is a great movie for good quality color shots of spits, 111's, etc..

Latico
10-25-2004, 09:43 PM
TORA! TORA! Tora!

A dual effort by Japanese and American film makers that depict the events that led up to the bombing of Pearl Harbor. All airial footage is recreated using vintage Japanese and American aircraft.

Midway

Accurate depiction of the events of the Battle of Midway. Unfortunatly film footage of US carriers are all of Essex class carriers, some of which are post Korea deck mods.

OK, both have some sort of alternate BS story line to go with them, but the rest is historically correct.

PanchoVilla
10-25-2004, 10:00 PM
Band of Brothers. Whole set cost about 80 bucks. Rent disk 1 to see the normandy air drop.

Enemy at the gates...great stuka scene.

PlaneEater
10-25-2004, 10:01 PM
Dark Blue World, and The Thin Red Line

CaptainFlunky
10-25-2004, 10:02 PM
If you are talking Pacific theatre movies, slim pickin's there my friend. But if it is the entire war in general, here are my five favorites in no particualr order;

. A Bridge Too Far (Everytime I see it I have to remind myself it was made in the seventies, no CGI.)

. Das Boot (Beyond realistic. Makes me wish I spoke german.)

. Enemy at the Gates (OK, not the most compelling movie of all time, but it's eastern front after all.)

. Saving Private Ryan (Obligatory)

. Not a movie, but Band of Brothers I think is the best representation of combat and the fellowship of soldiers. I speak with some authority on the subject as I spent five years of my life as an 11M and was myself in combat. If you haven't seen it, you must. Plonk down the Benjamin for the DVDs.

CaptainFlunky
10-25-2004, 10:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PlaneEater:
Dark Blue World, and The Thin Red Line <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

dimmit! I got all on my BoB tangent and clean forgot about those two. They're excellent. I thought I was the only person alive who A. liked Thin Red Line, and B. Saw Dark Blue World.

Pentallion
10-25-2004, 11:25 PM
Das Boot
Tora! Tora! Tora!
Dark Blue Sky
A Bridge Too Far
Band of Brothers
The Blue Max (WW1 but a great movie)

VFA-195 Snacky
10-26-2004, 01:10 AM
Look in the Documentary section under military at Netflix. I just added Victory at Sea and another WWII Doc.

TheJoyStick
10-26-2004, 01:32 AM
WindTalkers

Good movie IMO. A bit overkill, but good.

WOLFMondo
10-26-2004, 03:26 AM
Midway was ok but the characters weren't that greatly portraid and some of the footage is ripped out of Tora.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CaptainFlunky:
. Das Boot (Beyond realistic. Makes me wish I spoke german.) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

IMHO thats the best war film ever made.

Giganoni
10-26-2004, 04:19 AM
Stalingrad is ok.

I'd love to get a copy of The Winter War (Russo-Finnish war), but can't get a copy.

One late night I saw a movie I believe called Red Beach, Pacific movie with Rip Torn in it. It was okay..

Mozzie_21
10-26-2004, 04:50 AM
Yeah I was going to say stalingrad, the german one. Great film!

Also, Das Boot

Hmm both german films, what a coincidence.

Oh ahd the Tuskegee airmen is also pretty good.

pacettid
10-26-2004, 05:12 AM
My WWII List:

The Enemy Below (best I have ever seen on submarine warfare in WWII)
Run Silent, Run Deep
Memphis Belle
Stalag 17
A Bridge Too Far
The Great Escape
Where Eagles Dare
The Guns of Navarone
The Desert Fox
Back to Bataan
Sahara
Saving Private Ryan
Band of Brothers (the entire series)
The Longest Day
Tora, Tora, Tora
Away All Boats (one of the least well known, but superb, WWII movies I have ever seen)
Dark Blue World
Das Boot
The Battle of Britain
Victory at Sea (the entire series)
The Dam Busters
Guadalcanal Diary

weasel75
10-26-2004, 05:20 AM
The finnish movie "winter-war"??
Hell, saw it once, had I-16 in it (strafing finnish trenches). http://imdb.com/title/tt0098437/

Stalingrad (the german movie, http://imdb.com/title/tt0108211/ ) I liked too, just like "Das Boot" ( http://imdb.com/title/tt0082096/ ). "Enemy at the Gates" ( http://imdb.com/title/tt0215750/ ) had a certain realistic Stalingrad-war-feeling too, but was much to heroic and the love-story was just ..... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
Thin Red Line ( http://imdb.com/title/tt0120863/ ) was a suprise for me, since it had depressing/anti-war aspects, a thing one can not find very often in american war-movies (no offence). I guess peoples death was nothing heroic, nothing brave, it just happened (Keck's death (W. Harrelson) for example).

Dark Blue World (http://imdb.com/title/tt0244479/ ) has a lovely story, but the flying-part was much to short, had beautiful girls though (esp. the czech one) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ahh .. yes: Catch-22 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065528 ), just plain genious. BTW, am I the first on this one?? Shame on you all http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Besides that, there are plenty of US-movies, not all very good.
"Bridge at Remagen"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064110/
"Guns of Navalone" -
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054953/
"A Bridge to far" -
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075784/
"Kelly's Heroes" -
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065938/ , just for the love of Oddball (Sutherland)

Newer, with aircrafts, therefor not to bad:
"Tuskegee Airmen" - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114745
Some airwar, but mainly about the first african american pilots going to war (but if you have seen "Glory", you know that movie too).

Here some less known movies:

"Soldaat van Oranje" - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076734/
Not much war-action, more about "resistance", but interesting!

"Come and See" - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091251
A russian movie about a boy going to war, its not a "good" movie, very pathetic and definitely made in Soviet Union, but its still very *very* disturbing.

EDIT:
PS: Best to see them all in native language. Finnish is just so nice to hear.

DIRTY-MAC
10-26-2004, 05:24 AM
The Finnish winter war is a must see
also the german movie Stalingrad.

NegativeGee
10-26-2004, 05:32 AM
To add to whats already been mentioned....

Cross of Iron. James Coburn, James Mason and Maximillian Schell in Sam Peckinpah's unforgettable screen interpretation of Willi Heinrich's novel.

Like Das Boot and Stalingrad, the German perspective gets something across that most WW2 films from the Allied perspective miss.

F16_Fatboy
10-26-2004, 06:25 AM
Since you are mentioning that you are waiting for PF I have to add that watching the ‚‚ā¨¬ĚFighting Lady‚‚ā¨¬Ě from 1944 would be a good preparation. It was discussed in thisthread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=26310365&m=303106514&r=322101334#322101334)!

FLSTF

PraetorHonoris
10-26-2004, 06:32 AM
Two of the best war movies I have ever seen:

"Die Br√ľcke" (the brigde) is about five young boys forced to defend a brigde against the allied april 1945. A very tragical film, though very old now as it is from 1959.

http://www.av-film.de/Bilder/htmfotos/plakate/htmplak/Bruecke.jpg

"Der Untergang" (The downfall) is about the last 12 days in Berlin and the end of the Reich. This is by far the best film on topic and Bruno Ganz playing Hitler is simply impressive. The film is terrifying, scaring and really shocking.
Actually it is still in German cinemas.

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0002Z16HY.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

budvar62
10-26-2004, 06:33 AM
I'd definitely go with most of the above, but couple of omissions I loved as a kid - and still pretty good in their own way. Effects are poor but they have some real aircraft in them:

633 Squadron
The Dambusters

Also

The Malta Story
Memphis Belle
Sink the Bismark
Battle of the River Plate
The Longest Day

There's a bit of a Brit bias there which isn't intentional. Can't remember how accurate / realistic John Wayne / Audy Murphy stuff was but really enjoyed them as a kid...

Fritzofn
10-26-2004, 06:51 AM
Cross of Iron (also known as Steiner)
Das Boot
oh, and not to forget Sven Hassel's masterpice
"Wheels of Terror" (d√¬łden p√¬• larvef√¬łtter)


was rumoured some years ago about a series based on Sven Hassel's book's....but i think it was scrapt...to bad though

Tojusi
10-26-2004, 07:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Giganoni:
I'd love to get a copy of The Winter War (Russo-Finnish war), but can't get a copy.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Check out Finnish DVD store Filmifriikki at www.filmifriikki.fi (http://www.filmifriikki.fi) they might be able to help you. It would appear that they deliver outside Finland, even outside the EU. You need to search for the movie "Talvisota" which is the Finnish title. The DVD should have English subtitles.

Hope this helps (+I am not affiliated with the store, just trying to help here).

clint-ruin
10-26-2004, 07:41 AM
Just to counter those who haven't listed The Thin Red Line in their own lists - go see The Thin Red Line. Why? Did you notice noone challenged Windtalkers as a good pick yet? Yeah.

Mozzie_21
10-26-2004, 07:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Stalingrad (the german movie, http://imdb.com/title/tt0108211/ ) I liked too, just like "Das Boot" ( http://imdb.com/title/tt0082096/ ). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The great thing about those two films is that unlike just about every other war film they make no attempt to romanticise it, or to make heros etc, or to make propoganda.

Chuck_Older
10-26-2004, 07:54 AM
Battle of the Bulge.

Some don't like it's lack of attention to correct equipment. Great movie, though. Bob Shaw as a Panzer Leader

Sands of Iwo Jima is worth watching as well

pre-WWII but a great movie:

the Sand Pebbles, with Steve McQueen

gates123
10-26-2004, 09:38 AM
Another vote for Band of Brothers, and Patton of course.

Owlsphone
10-26-2004, 10:11 AM
Pearl Harbor http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

I have to add another vote for Band Of Brothers. It is my most prized DVD by far.

Tora Tora Tora is another one of my favs.
Some of the other decent ones are Tuskeegee Airmen and Memphis Belle.

han freak solo
10-26-2004, 10:16 AM
Battle of Britain has great air footage with a few fake planes on the ground to get blown up. You've got to love the "scratched in" explosive effects in some shots and get past some of the acting, it was made in the late sixties afterall.

Also, the Flying Tigers with John Wayne can be quite comical when picking out the fakes (very easy). But, some air shots are OK. This was made during WWII with not many planes to spare for movies.

GT182
10-26-2004, 10:27 AM
5 good ones that have been missed in lists on here:
12 O'Clock High
The War lover
Mosquito Squadron
Bridge Over the River Kwi
PT 109

2 that aren't really factual http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif:
Where Eagles Dare
Kelly's Heros

NorrisMcWhirter
10-26-2004, 11:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PraetorHonoris:
Two of the best war movies I have ever seen:

_"Die Br√ľcke"_ (the brigde) is about five young boys forced to defend a brigde against the allied april 1945. A very tragical film, though very old now as it is from 1959.

http://www.av-film.de/Bilder/htmfotos/plakate/htmplak/Bruecke.jpg

_"Der Untergang"_ (The downfall) is about the last 12 days in Berlin and the end of the Reich. This is by far the best film on topic and Bruno Ganz playing Hitler is simply impressive. The film is terrifying, scaring and really shocking.
Actually it is still in German cinemas.

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0002Z16HY.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hi,

I've been meaning to see the latter - what kind of reception has it had?

That aside...

das Boot (best WW2 film by a looooong way)

Cross of Iron

Battle of Britain (cheesy with repetive combat shots but good nonetheless)

Dark Blue World (film is, again, cheesy but the aerial stuff is nice).

Where Eagles Dare (not quite realistic what with helicopters etc but it's got a Junkers Ju52 in it!)

Broadsword calling Danny Boy!


Norris

peterm1
10-26-2004, 02:50 PM
Lots of good ones already mentioned but the recent ones I really like are band of brothers, saving ryans privates (or something) and deep blue world. If you are after an "oldie" I can recommend an old John Wayne movie called "They Were Expendable" about the PT boats based in the Phillipines at the beginning of the last great bout of international unpleasantness. It is REALLY corney but there is one 5 minute segment involving a full on PT boat attack on a japanese cruiser that blew me away with the special effects (simply great effects for the era and not a computer in sight) and made it ALL worth while. Get it if you can.

Stuntie
10-26-2004, 03:52 PM
For Pacific Fighters it has to be 'The Flying leathernecks' John wayne as a Marine Aviator.

Standard gung ho John Wayne acting, but you do get to see Corsairs and Wildcats (or are they Hellcats really...) in their element. Plus some nice real footage at times.

Yeti761
10-26-2004, 04:17 PM
Just to add my two pennyworth to the already excellent suggestions (and apologies for any brit bias)

Reach for the Sky,
In which We Serve.
Ice Cold in Alex.
The Longest Day.

Theres many more love which have already been mentioned.
*s*

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2004, 02:29 PM
Never heard of Deep Blue World... Is the air combat done with reconditioned aircraft? Is it realistic?

JG51Beolke
10-28-2004, 02:53 PM
There's an old B&W with Dana Andrews and Don Ameci. It told a story about a TBF Squadron aboard a US Carrier just before the Midway campaign I think. Can't remember the name of the movie though. It's very good.

Gato__Loco
10-28-2004, 03:14 PM
You guys really liked "Deep Blue World"? I felt dissapointed by it. The story was a bit lame, the characters had no depth, and yes... the air combat was so..so. Just my opinion.
Memphis Belle... another dissapointing movie. I picked up from the video store and watch it with a group of friends, and nobody liked it. I even got banned from choosing movies again.

Tora Tora Tora...now that is a fantastic movie. Also pretty accurate historically.
And I'm surprised that only one of you mentioned The Bridge on the River Kwai"!!! This is a great film!

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2004, 04:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gato__Loco:
You guys really liked "Deep Blue World"? I felt dissapointed by it. The story was a bit lame, the characters had no depth, and yes... the air combat was so..so. Just my opinion.
Memphis Belle... another dissapointing movie. I picked up from the video store and watch it with a group of friends, and nobody liked it. I even got banned from choosing movies again.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've found that when asking people for recommendations, many just plaster on a list of everything they've seen, whether or not it's actually good. (Even if the thread is specifically requesting "top quality" recommendations... sigh.)

So thanks for the no votes... they'll help me filter out some of the chaff. I think the opinion of a guy who got banned from choosing movies carries a lot of weight... as long as it involves figuring out which movies to ignore http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
12-02-2004, 12:40 PM
Well I rented a number of movies that people recommended in this thread and here are some brief impressions:

Tora Tora Tora:
Very impressive in terms of realism! This is basically 2 movies in 1 telling the Pearl Harbor event from both sides. As a result, the Japanese side of the film posessed a depth of authenticity that I don't think would have been possible if Hollywood had done this part. The things they were able to accomplish with real aircraft and reconstructed ships were impressive!

Patton
A great film, but mostly as an intriguing character piece. As a war movie, there really isn't much authenticity here. As rendered in this movie Patton was an astonishing character! I don't think they make people like this any more.

Midway
A number of people in this thread downed this film but I thought it was reasonably good. There was a tremendous amount of real combat footage which some here thought was a cop-out compared to what the Tora people did, but I found it all very fascinating. What amazed me was how much the real footage looked like PF http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I felt like I was watching something that I had personal experience in just because it coresponded so well with what air combat is like in PF! The movie is pretty darned accurate historically.

Battle of Britain
This is one of the most impeccably accurate war movies I have ever seen. For non aviation buffs this won't be much of a film though. The air combat recreations with real aircraft were pretty detailed and there was an enormous lot of it.

Anyway, I'd give a thumbs up on all these movies for the fans in this forum. Considering the clientel in this forum, I'd prioritize them thusly:

1) Tora Tora Tora
2) Battle of Britain
3) Midway
4) Patton

Patton is the only one that I think a non-war-buff would truly appreciate if you were going to watch it with your family or something.

pendragon1984
12-02-2004, 01:06 PM
Considering how old this thread seems to be it might be too late to cast in my vote, but here goes anyway!

First of all, out of the movies already mentioned that I've seen Tora Tora Tora is probably my favorite. Must-see, period.

I also think you could do worse than to see Hart's War. It's not overly action-oriented as almost the entire film takes place inside a German POW camp, but they do manage to squeeze in some bullets here and there. There's even some air-to-ground and air-to-air action. This isn't strictly a "WWII movie", and would have worked just as well in a different setting, but it's a good story nonetheless.

Ruy Horta
12-02-2004, 01:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CaptainFlunky:
I thought I was the only person alive who A. liked Thin Red Line, and B. Saw Dark Blue World. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Thin Red Line is an odd movie.

Some of the material is more than brilliant, it combines pure cinematic art with a touch of the devine (when I first saw the film I couldn't help to see Jim Cavazial as playing Christ, and we all know what happened afterwards...). But somehow the director went over the top with his inner monologues (imho). As a side note I couldn't help but feel that John Travolta was miserably cast as a general, while Nolte was playing his subordinate. Also Sean Penn's hair stayed "styled" throughout the worst.

But when The Thin Red Line was clicking, it was really very good.

Of course the DVD is on my shelf, but my favorite scenes are still those with Jimmy Cavezial, cannooing through the jungle, sun shining divinely through the leaves.

I'm an atheist, but even I feel the devinity of that natural beauty, of life and death...

Ruy Horta
12-02-2004, 01:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pendragon1984:
I also think you could do worse than to see Hart's War. It's not overly action-oriented as almost the entire film takes place inside a German POW camp, but they do manage to squeeze in some bullets here and there. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hart's War was a surprise.

A non typical film with the added bonus of a very nice, but short, dogfight sequence. But this brings me to what I wanted to say.

What do we want to see in a war flick?

Do we want a dry documentary or do we want a story?

I am a stickler for accuracy, BUT not at the price of a good story.

Hence I can enjoy a movie like Pearl Harbor and admire an epic like Tora Tora Tora, but of the two the latter is the lesser of a movie experience.

Actually the scenes I personally enjoy most of Tora Tora Tora are the Japanese ones, they have a certain feel that you hardly find in the rest of the film - of course a full scale mock up of the Kongo helps.

In the end I think Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers are my favorites since they combine story and human interest with accuracy.

Every time I see old Ryan walking his walk I get choked up. Perhaps I am a sissy,

Side comment.

Letters from Viet Nam.

Its a rare occasion that the final scene leaves my eyes dry. War not through the power of a Tank, but the pain of a mother who has lost her son (just like the mother in Saving Pvt Ryan btw having to sit down, I hope I'll never have to face anything like that...)

chipwich
12-02-2004, 03:41 PM
Surprised that no one has mentioned "When Trumpets Fade", albeit made for HBO and released just before SPR. Now out on DVD, with just as, no even more gritty battle scenes than SPR, a surprising plot and poignant ending. One my top 3 war films, and maybe the most real to life. Highly recommended.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6305161941.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
At Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6305161941/002-1346893-7458421?v=glance)

PS. I you are reading or plan to read Stephen Ambrose's "Citizen Soldier" this is a great compliment to the Hertgen Forest chapter, one of the saddest episodes in the ETO.

Gato__Loco
12-02-2004, 03:47 PM
I just saw "Das Boat", the new extended version in German (but with subtitles). Fantastic film!!

MoritzJGOne
12-02-2004, 03:49 PM
Tora Tora Tora got very high marks from the History Channel historian panel.

They point out two things: One they did not show the Japanese spy (a young man who medicalled out of the IJ Navy) that sat on the hilltop overlooking the harbor and noted ship movements and sent these back to Japan.

Two, when the Nevada beached, the crew did not go over the side. Other than that, fine marks for accuracy.

A WWI film worth viewing can be found under two titles: 'Regeneration' of 'Behind the Lines'. This is the story of shell shock, redemption, two famous poets and the famous doc who treated them. Based off of the Pat Barker trilogy and actual events.

Jungmann
12-02-2004, 04:35 PM
Okay, the obvious one already mentioned. Getting a little obscure:

Glad somebody mentioned "Sahara" One of my all timers-Bogart in an M4 tank in North Africa.

John Wayne in Flying Tigers is cheesy--plywood prop P-40s with lawn-mower engines in the ground sequences--but it was one of the first movies I ever saw, so it has a secure spot in my ugly little heart.

Boelke, could you be thinking of "Wing and a Prayer"?

"Air Force," directed by the great Howard Hawks. Great shots of B-17Bs--where else do you see footage of this early mark?

And there was a movie about the development of the B-29, Col. Tibbets, the 507th Composite Group and the dropping of the atomic bomb I saw a long time ago. Don't remember the title. Never saw it mentioned again. Heard a rumor that the Government had put it in the closet? Anybody confirm this?

Cheers,

J_Weaver
12-02-2004, 05:00 PM
How about 'The Flying Leathernecks', 'Mosquito Squadron','633 Squadron', 'Von Ryan's Express', 'The Sands of Iwo Jima', 'Bridge on the River Kwai(sp?)Thats all I can think of right now. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

J_Weaver
12-02-2004, 05:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>And there was a movie about the development of the B-29, Col. Tibbets, the 507th Composite Group and the dropping of the atomic bomb I saw a long time ago. Don't remember the title. Never saw it mentioned again. Heard a rumor that the Government had put it in the closet? Anybody confirm this?

Cheers, <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I remember seeing part of that years ago but never got to see the whole thing. What I saw was good. I havn't seen anything about since.

Why would the government stash it away?

darkhorizon11
12-02-2004, 07:04 PM
Why does everyone recommend Enemy at the Gates?
That movie was lame-o. The story was very warped too from the original. And not just the love story either, it was tweaked A LOT from the original to fit Hollywood standards. I mean the initial scenes of Stukas strafing the boats crossing the Volgas are amazing. Then the movie just tumbles downhill from there. Enemy at the Gates is on the same level as Pearl Harbor if you ask me when it comes to realism.

I've been meaning to see Dark Blue World. I hear its quite good.

Oh and Das Boot is absolutely stunning! Probably the best under-rated World War Two movie!

mllaneza
12-03-2004, 12:09 PM
People really like Enemy at the Gates for the first 20 minutes. After that the movie is pretty cheesy. If you want to skip the rest of the film that's ok. If you want to avoid it altogether, pick up the FPS Call of Duty. The opening of the Russian campaign is lifted straight from Enemy at the Gates - including the river crossing and "here's 10 rounds of ammo, pick up a rifle when you can".

F19_Olli72
12-03-2004, 12:38 PM
Finnish warmovies is generally realistic and well made, WinterWar has been mentioned but heres a couple more;

"Tuntematon sotilas" (unkown soldier) was pretty good for its time (1955), though it was a long time since i saw it.

Otherwise "Rukaj√¬§rven tie" (Ambush) is a really well made movie set in the Continuation war.

Both is available on DVD with english subtitles.

XyZspineZyX
12-03-2004, 04:25 PM
I've seen a couple more movies that people have recommended:

Thin Red Line
Superb! This movie is very dark and perhaps a bit too artsy for some, but I think it impeccably captures some of the hellish reality of the Pacific ground war... for both sides. (I judge this based on how it corroborates with 1st-hand and 2nd-hand accounts that I've read about that aspect of the war). Firearms and mortars sound real... loud and dangerous (as opposed to the usual anemic quality many Hollywood productions use). Visibility and confusion problems in island combat are well conveyed. Nick Nolte was spectacular. One of the most striking aesthetic qualities of this movie was how it renders the paradox of hell in paradise... The cinametography was beautiful and in general the film is visually striking. The bunker assault sequence was cringingly realistic and quite a rush.

Dark Blue World
This movie is reasonably good as a generally appealing film, meaning non-war-buffs would appreciate it. The FX in the air combat sequences were pretty darned good, but these sequences weren't very deep or satisfying from the perspective of being an aviation fan... They were used as plot devices to reveal character developments and relationships and in this respect they were incidental. But the movie is genuinely tragically moving and immersive.

Shakthamac
12-03-2004, 04:37 PM
when trumpets fade was really a good movie, despite dwight yokams acting. Kelly's Heroes is probably my favorite WW2 movie of all time. Another worth mentioning is "They Were Expendable"
Great early Phillipine pt boat movie w/ John Wayne.

Even though its not a ww2 movie, id take a look at the Bridges over Toko-Ri. Great footage of resupplying at sea and panther flying.

Nimits
12-03-2004, 05:00 PM
Tora, Tora, Tora is one of my top five favorite movies. Granted, the "story" is a little weak, but I would rather have a historically accurate story, even if a little "light," then a some stupid stock Hollywood romance or political plot with no place in a WWII movie (Pearl Harbor, Windtalkers, Hart's War, Platoon, etc.)

GR142_Astro
12-03-2004, 05:05 PM
Here's a rare one:

http://img.2dehands.nl/f/normal/7097738.jpg

Theirs is the Glory (PG)(BW) (1946) UK
Director: Brian Desmond Hurst / Terence Young

Filmed in 1946, using soldiers instead of actors. Despite only very minimal training, the British First Airborne chaps did quite well. More of a docu-drama, but is as interesting as any feature film.

1 - No Hollywood
2 - No "acting"
3 - To my knowledge the only WW2 movie to feature an operable Tiger I
4 - Ditto for the 2 Mark V Panthers
5 - Live PIAT round fired at a disabled Panther
6 - A Bridge Too Far was largely lifted directly from this film
7 - Hard to locate a non PAL formatted copy

FoolTrottel
12-03-2004, 05:34 PM
PraetorHonoris said:
(...)"Die Br√ľcke" (the brigde) is about five young boys forced to defend a brigde against the allied april 1945. A very tragical film, though very old now as it is from 1959.(...)

One thing I can say about this: Read the book, by Manfred Gregor... it is even more impressive

My favorites:
- "Over Here" Not much war action, but really great humor.. it's a TV film, little chance of finding it....
- Memphis Belle
- A Bridge Too Far Why? Cos I live in the town most of the movie was recorded....(Deventer, The Netherlands) I remember being a 12yr old boy, standing near to 'the Bridge' looking at those guys running up it, guns firing... and then again... and again... and another take ... "Dad, I wanna go home!" Yeah,well, at that moment I didn't know anything about what had happened at Arhnem...)
- Das Boot
- Im Westen nichts neues. Also one should read the book....
- Band of Brothers

About 'Shaving Private Ryan'(as I prefer to call it): There's one thing that bugs me, and what for me makes the whole movie stink: There's a scene in which they raid an enemy artillery position. They take it, and one guy gets badly shot.... they all hang about to take care of him, this seems to take hours.... well, I cannot understand how any soldier in enemy territory would do that: Okay, you attack, you take the position. Next thing would be "get out of there" as all that shooting can only attract bad things. ... remember 'enemy territory' ....
I think of it as a great experience for T.Hanks, to be able to contibute to 'Band of Brothers'... he's learned ...

ucanfly
12-03-2004, 05:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AgentBif:
Well I rented a number of movies that people recommended in this thread and here are some brief impressions:

Tora Tora Tora:
Very impressive in terms of realism! This is basically 2 movies in 1 telling the Pearl Harbor event from both sides. As a result, the Japanese side of the film posessed a depth of authenticity that I don't think would have been possible if Hollywood had done this part. The things they were able to accomplish with real aircraft and reconstructed ships were impressive!

Patton
A great film, but mostly as an intriguing character piece. As a war movie, there really isn't much authenticity here. As rendered in this movie Patton was an astonishing character! I don't think they make people like this any more.

Midway
A number of people in this thread downed this film but I thought it was reasonably good. There was a tremendous amount of real combat footage which some here thought was a cop-out compared to what the Tora people did, but I found it all very fascinating. What amazed me was how much the real footage looked like PF http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I felt like I was watching something that I had personal experience in just because it coresponded so well with what air combat is like in PF! The movie is pretty darned accurate historically.

Battle of Britain
This is one of the most impeccably accurate war movies I have ever seen. For non aviation buffs this won't be much of a film though. The air combat recreations with real aircraft were pretty detailed and there was an enormous lot of it.

Anyway, I'd give a thumbs up on all these movies for the fans in this forum. Considering the clientel in this forum, I'd prioritize them thusly:

1) Tora Tora Tora
2) Battle of Britain
3) Midway
4) Patton

Patton is the only one that I think a non-war-buff would truly appreciate if you were going to watch it with your family or something. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would agree with your list except add/put the Band of Brothers at the tippity top.

Kupper
12-03-2004, 05:44 PM
Here's an old, rather obscure one that I wonder if anyone is familiar with? It's called "The Purple Plain", and stars Gregory Peck. Deals with a Mosquito squadron based in Burma...great survival story, with some pretty good "Mossie" action as I recall, tho I haven't seen it for years. Not sure if it's available for purchase.........

Jetenginedr
12-03-2004, 05:44 PM
CHIPWICH hit the nail on the head with When Trumpets Fade. I saw that on HBO then searched for months around town to find the dvd before I did find it.

That and of course BOB

XyZspineZyX
12-03-2004, 10:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jetenginedr:
CHIPWICH hit the nail on the head with When Trumpets Fade. I saw that on HBO then searched for months around town to find the dvd before I did find it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Netflix has it. It's on my queue now.

ImpStarDuece
12-04-2004, 01:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CaptainFlunky:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PlaneEater:
Dark Blue World, and The Thin Red Line <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

dimmit! I got all on my BoB tangent and clean forgot about those two. They're excellent. I thought I was the only person alive who A. liked Thin Red Line, and B. Saw Dark Blue World. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are not alone I; A) saw both at the cinema, B) own both on DVD, and C) Love them both so much i'm afraid they will melt in my drive from such high rotation.

HotelBushranger
12-04-2004, 02:13 AM
5 good ones that have been missed in lists on here:
12 O'Clock High
The War lover
Mosquito Squadron
Bridge Over the River Kwi
PT 109

MOSQUITO SQUADRON! THAT WAS BAAAD!
shoddy acting accompanied with shoddy action
not worth the money to hire it out.

Also
Highly recommend Battle of Britia, great movie. Also Memphis Belle, lol i can still remember exactly the ads for it on a taped video. far out.

midways alright, but for infantry combat nothing beats Band of Brothers

path21
12-04-2004, 06:29 AM
Well in my opinion the best film of ww2 is The thin red line (realistic and it makes u think).

Well if i can i will highly recommend probbably one of the best war films ever, Apocalypse now (It is not WW2 but it rox).

XyZspineZyX
12-27-2004, 01:20 AM
I rented "When Trumpets Fade" based on people's recommendations here. It was pretty good... mostly focussed on the "just toss more meat into the grinder" attitude that seems to have been largely purged in today's Army. (Troops today seem to get a lot of heavy support assets to back them up whenever they face a tough nut of opposition.)

I'd recommend this movie to anyone here.

So far Thin Red Line is my favorite though.

Schmouddle-WT
12-27-2004, 05:35 AM
Dark Blue World

Actually it was never mentioned to be a movie about aerial warfare. The dogfights and flying scenes were there just to support the theme of a movie.
However, the movie is a compilation of real stories of Czechoslovakian pilots in WWII Britain and latter communist "thank you" expressed by years in prison.

The movie is really fine, low-budget in Hollywood terms. Real MkIX used there, shot in UK and Czech Republic.

http://www.darkblueworld.com

cheezypeaz69
12-27-2004, 07:48 AM
the russian film "Zvezda" is pretty cool.. plus it has IL2s in it!

Raptor_20thFG
12-27-2004, 08:12 AM
Memphis Belle I mean I dont know about the Authenticity but a good Movie

Blackdog5555
12-27-2004, 01:39 PM
Great list but you guys missed a couple just off hand...

Slaughterhouse Five; by Kurt Vounnegut (sp) not pure war but very good.

Tarawa: with J. Wayne. Goofy acting but good RL shots of the battle.

Tarawa was also done as a war documentary, been looking for that one myself.. It is the real thing. Cheers!

Also, Black Sheep, the movie before Ba Ba Black Sheep. It was a full length starring Robert conrad. Great F4U shots mixed with WWII footage. good movie. cheers again.

No105_Swoose
12-27-2004, 03:33 PM
For all PF fans I would highly recommend Wake Island(1942)about the US Marine's doomed but heroic defense of that island outpost in December 1941. The movie has great flying scenes of Grumman F4F Wildcats tackling with "Japanese" aircraft (actually 1930's vintage sport aircraft made to look realistically like IJN planes). The acting is very good and not over the top like some war movies made during that period. If the movie were to be featured on The History Channel's "History or Hollywood?", Wake Island would tend more toward Hollywood but it does tie in the basic historical facts of the battle. Wake Islandwas nominated for Best Picture of 1942. It's one of my all time favorites and I try to watch it whenever it's shown, usually around Memorial Day in the USA.

F19_Orheim
12-27-2004, 05:00 PM
Talvisota!!!! (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0098437/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxzZz0xfGxtPTIwMHx0dD1vbnxwbj 0wfHE9d2ludGVyd2FyfGh0bWw9MXxubT1vbg__;fc=1;ft=7;f m=1)

SuperFudd
12-27-2004, 11:39 PM
Tora Tora Tora gets my vote.
As for Midway, it ripped off so much footage from Tora Tora Tora which would not have been so bad if they had used that footage right. In one scene of the airfield you can see a battle ship in the background. There where no battleships at Midway.
It was footage of Ford Island.

Enigma6584
12-28-2004, 09:33 AM
I would recommend for you to save up and purchase the World at War documentary which was produced about 30 years ago. Probably the best documentary of the second world war I have ever seen. It is about 5-6 DVD with 6 episodes per DVD. It has amazing footage and "straight from the mouth" interviews with people who were there. It covers every theater of the war.

Smokin256
12-28-2004, 10:26 AM
On the lighter side;
* Mister Roberts
* Buck Privates (Abbott & Costello)
* No time for Sergeants (Cold war era, not WWII but still funny!)

Cheers.......Smokin256

Eagle_361st
12-28-2004, 11:43 AM
The best WWII era movie by far without doubt is Band of Brothers, it is worth the money to get the whole series. All of the other movies suggested are excellent as well. But Band of Brothers is the best IMO.

SteveG
12-28-2004, 01:51 PM
I saw a great aviation film about 20 years ago, don't know its name and have been trying to find out, I reckon that someone here might be able to help?

It was a colour film, featured a p40, had the 3 little fishes song as its theme music, and I think the P40 crashed into a dam at the end.

Does anybody have any ideas what this film is called?

thanks,
SteveG

Glazier
12-28-2004, 02:34 PM
Das Boot, make sure it's the full length TV series, and Thin Red Line, underrated and far better than Mr Ryan's privates http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

widgeon
12-28-2004, 03:49 PM
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000648X7/qid%3D1104274182/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/103-4206494-4731020

A Midnight Clear - this is one I havent seen mentioned, I enjoyed it.

Widgeon

VF-3Thunderboy
12-28-2004, 05:27 PM
My complaint about "Das Boot", and maybe some Germans can comment, is it is politically correct, German style. The only "Blond" german type guy is the stern authoritarian bad guy. Everyone else looks Italian, and swathy, (dark hair). It also portrays U-Boaters as syrupy sympathetic to the victims or their torpedos, which was a bit wierd PC for me. U-boaters were some of the most ardent supporters of the Riech. This is not portrayed at all, the movie protrays the crew as victims...And swathy Italian victims who hate stern authoritarian Blond commanders at that. Not realistic. But the rest of it is good.

How about "THE HUNTERS" F-86 pilots (Robert Wagner) and "WING AND A PRAYER"

Havnt seen the last one, but its supposedly about the flying tigers...

PraetorHonoris
12-28-2004, 06:04 PM
So you want to see blond, goose-stepping, war-loving, merciless Nazis and call it realism...

do you really want me to comment that? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

drvdds
12-28-2004, 07:34 PM
for absolute Realism you can't beat Kelly's Heroes or the Hornet's Nest.



Joking.
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

VF-3Thunderboy
12-28-2004, 08:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>So you want to see blond, goose-stepping, war-loving, merciless Nazis and call it realism...
do you really want me to comment that? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Uhm, Id hate to see Political Correctness of any sort. DAS BOOT was very PC, and as I have said, the only BAD guy was the "blond, goose-stepping, war-loving, merciless Nazi".

So Im not sure if you agree with the Thunder or not...
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif
That being said, Germans and Vikings are regularly and singularily 'stereotyped' in American Commercials for Capital One.

OforTuna in the background, and what looks like Goths and or Vikings, which brings up a point about the fact that if you can only stereotype Nordic and German people with out causing a fuss, does that make them superior to all the other people you dont stereo type, like Zulus, or Aztecs, as they sure dont do Zulus or Aztecs on those Capital One commercials, but then again, we wont get into that... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif Actually, when I fly http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif online, I have Ofortuna playing in the background also.... But then again.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

PraetorHonoris
12-28-2004, 09:25 PM
I think you should not think so much about the hair colour of the actors (all of them are German actually!).
There was a long discussion whether the displayed crew is representative or not, but finally you should realise that most of the Germans were neither Nazis nor war-loving.
Those nazis were a minority. 80% of the U-Boat men died in WWII, the rest had to bear horrible experiences of being chance-less and hunted, instead of being the hunter. I never found any evidence that the U-Boat crews had more 'ardent nazis' than other arms.

I think, it is co-incident that the actor, who played the nazi, was blond. Moreover the overall picture of the men is not black and white at all.
Just by the way, there were other blond men, I would consider to be 'typical German looking' (IF there is such a thing), Gr√¬∂nemeyer playing Lt. Werner e.g.

F4U_Flyer
12-28-2004, 09:29 PM
Didnt read the whole post so if its included sorry. The best pacific stuff ive seen is the victory at sea series , i know not a movie but great stuff!! I would like to see a new battle of Britain movie using the best part of that stinker pearl harbor , aside from kate beckensale , wher afflack joined the raf and gets shot down . Now that looked cool! A little saving private ryan , band of brothers and flight scenes like that . Just awesome !

RNZAF_Coyote
12-28-2004, 11:34 PM
Well I'm another fan of When Trumpets Fade, another very good movie (my favorite war movie at this time) is:
Lost Battalion, its WWI but still a very good movie.

VF-3Thunderboy
12-28-2004, 11:43 PM
Actually Pearl Harbor wasnt that bad for a movie. Not as bad as Ive read anyway, (all bad) For a movie I saw on TV, it was good, above average.

30 Seconds over Tokyo, TOPS!!
==================================


The Blond Officer (obviously NOT a coincidence)represented the Riech, and although not all German military were Nazis, they just did not seem like a U-boat crew in the "enthusiasm" dept, but I could be wrong...I think You had to be way gung ho to get into the "BOOT".

Generally a good movie, but I think you might do well with the newly released GUNCAMERA footage on DVD of the Pacific theater I posted a while back...If your gonna spend $$...
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

I dont wanna drag this out( really) but this is some pictures of "typical" uboat Captains. Yea, there is a swathy guy there, but the rest look all about the same...But apparently this has been an argument before about the movie...

http://uboat.net/gallery/index.html?gallery=IllustrationsA

http://uboat.net/gallery/images//drawing_ites.jpg

That being said, Germans on the whole are way more autocratic, which is one reason Germany has the largest economy in W. Europe. Japan has the second largest economy,period, and by no coincidence, these countries were the main Axis powers. Its based on civil "Order". The word "Russia" comes from the word row-er, or Viking, in defrence to the Swede Vikings who brought "Order" to the Baltic region, (and a STABLE economy back then, etc.)

Not sure, but P/C seems to have infected Germany also...

Looks like the Ukraine could USE a bit of that Teutonic Tonic...

....Ohhh Tundrboya...


interesting topic...

pendragon1984
12-29-2004, 12:21 AM
If you want gritty realism, a fantastic story, and the chance to see the Second World War the way it really was, then there is only one movie that can satiate your lust, a Spielberg classic by the name of 1941.

*Dodges thrown tomatoes and worn out boots.*

Okay, okay, but it has Toshiro Mifune in it... he gives any movie he's in at least 2 extra cool points. At least. Yes, even Midway.

As an aside, I got a $20 Wal-Mart gift card from a cousin this Christmas and, based almost entirely on the reccomendations of you, the good forum-goers, ordered Battle of Britain on DVD. Figured it'd be the perfect new addition to my collection since I got me a flatscreen TV now (and there are only so many times I can drool over the same few scenes in Kill Bill or Star Wars or Yojimbo).

Hope it doesn't disappoint, because if it does, you guys owe me ten bucks, plus shipping http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Daiichidoku
12-29-2004, 01:20 AM
Dunno if its been mentioned, but "Catch-22" a classic, with amazing aerial shots throughout of about a dozen or more REAL B 25s, specially brought together and refurbished for the movie....
Aerial shots taken from Paul Tallmantz's special camera ship, also a B 25

PraetorHonoris
12-29-2004, 01:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VF-3Thunderboy:

The Blond Officer (obviously NOT a coincidence)represented the Riech, and although not all German military were Nazis, they just did not seem like a U-boat crew in the "enthusiasm" dept, but I could be wrong...I think You had to be _way gung ho _ to get into the "BOOT".

Generally a good movie, but I think you might do well with the newly released GUNCAMERA footage on DVD of the Pacific theater I posted a while back...If your gonna spend $$...
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

I dont wanna drag this out( really) but this is some pictures of "typical" uboat Captains. Yea, there is a swathy guy there, but the rest look all about the same...But apparently this has been an argument before about the movie...

http://uboat.net/gallery/index.html?gallery=IllustrationsA

http://uboat.net/gallery/images//drawing_ites.jpg

That being said, Germans on the whole are way more autocratic, which is one reason Germany has the largest economy in W. Europe. Japan has the second largest economy,period, and by no coincidence, these countries were the main Axis powers. Its based on civil "Order". The word "Russia" comes from the word row-er, or Viking, in defrence to the Swede Vikings who brought "Order" to the Baltic region, (and a STABLE economy back then, etc.)

Not sure, but P/C seems to have infected Germany also...

Looks like the Ukraine could USE a bit of that Teutonic Tonic...

....Ohhh Tundrboya...


interesting topic... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

hm. First of all, I am German, and my avatar displays a picture of me, when I was in the Luftwaffe.
I hope I can fulfill your exspectation what a German Luftwaffe soldiers looks like... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Do you know who W.Willrich was, do you know where these drawings are from?! (He was a ardent nazi and his aims were to show the glory of the 'Arian race')
Think a minute about that and realise that they don't show a typical stressed Landser but a propaganda Arian hero...

Your assumptions about the U-Boat crews are wrong, that's it, that simple.
You should read "Haie und kleine Fische" by Wolfgang Ott, descriping several seamen.

I can hardly believe that I replyed on such a post...

Daiichidoku
12-29-2004, 01:35 AM
Ok, someone did mention "Catch-22" early on in this thread...

But Im surprised no-one has mentiond "the dam busters" yet

also check out "hell in the pacific" with lee marvin and some JP guy

probably two of the very, very very best war movies EVER made are both very old

"Hells Angels", about WWI aerial combat, and

"All Quiet On The Western Front", a German film made in the '20s, 3 or 4 hours long, about a group of friends in the erman Army WWI...one of the most realistic, unforgiving war films ever made, down, dirty and gritty...remade in the late 70s/early 80s starring "John'boy" walton, hehe...but ignor eit, get the original, if you canm, you WONT be sorry

a post war film, that really has nothing to do with war, but for us aviation enthusiasts, one MUST see director David Lean's "Breaking the Sound Barrier"...a true gem

Itto_Okami
12-29-2004, 02:14 AM
"Go for Broke" about the Nisei Warriors.

S!

Itto

Tribe
12-29-2004, 04:15 PM
All of mine have been mentioned. I'll repeat them because they are always my dark horses.

1. Stalag 17

2. A midnight Clear

3. When trumpets fade

The obvious are the first 20 min of Saving Private Ryan, and Band of brothers. Notables are Patton, and Tora Tora Tora.

Blackdog5555
12-30-2004, 10:22 PM
I mispoke...I meant to say "Flying Misfits".. about the VMF 214...good flying film for F4u lovers.

VF-3Thunderboy
12-30-2004, 10:47 PM
I still think DAS BOOT is a good film, but Im right on the money, according to a U-Boat sight. U-boaters were not generally political (nazi), so the actors they chose tended more toward a non-arian/nordic look, hense, the Blond Germanic Nazi being the ONLY blond guy on the boot." Im just saying they bent that a little bit to humanize them more. Id like to see them more hard core Uboaters, as they were the cream of the crop, and I didnt get that impression...
DANGER: http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>hm. First of all, I am German, and my avatar displays a picture of me, when I was in the Luftwaffe.
I hope I can fulfill your exspectation what a German Luftwaffe soldiers looks like...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://img60.exs.cx/img60/1667/AvatarLdw2.jpg
http://uboat.net/gallery/images/drawing_koitschka_s.jpg

Hmmm, Well, yea, close enough..No offence there... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

My avitar is also a picture of what I look like, I am Thunderboy! Thunderboy go boom!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Yea, DAS BOOT was a great film....Makes you want to make sure you never get into a tin can...

jds1978
09-04-2005, 02:46 PM
"In Harm's Way"...The only John Wayne movie worth watching...period.

"Beach Red"....One of those rare WW2 films that gets it right...the uniforms, the equipment (except for the usual M60 standing in for a Sherman...so typical), the lingo, etc...gets bonus points for leaving the "rah-rah, lets go team!" stuff behind. "Saving Pvt. Ryan" and "The Thin Red Line" copy many scenes from "Beach Red" verbatim.

"Hell is For Heroes"...Steve McQueen, James Coburn and Bob Newhart http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif versus the Siegfried Line.

"The Big Red One"....Lee Marvin and Luke Skywalker kick the living #@%& out of the Nazis from North Africa to Czechoslovakia.

BPLIzard
09-04-2005, 04:40 PM
Empire of the Sun would be my all time favorite war movie. It's about a British boy's ordeal during the Japanese invasion of Hong Kong / China.

Then he grew up and became Batman.

TC_Stele
09-04-2005, 04:57 PM
Memphis Belle was mentioned only a couple times. While not entirely accurate in some instances and it did encompass almost all that one would see in 25 missions into one mission movie, it fairly depicted what the bomber boys went through.

I couldn't help but giggle when the bombadier suddenly sees the target in his reticle after the smoke clears then immediately drops the bombs.

Zeus-cat
09-04-2005, 06:21 PM
I forgot about Empire of the Sun. Very good movie.

I have to laugh at people trashing Das Boot for being PC and Saving Private Ryan for being innacurate and no one touches The Bridge on the River Kwai. The Bridge on the River Kwai is about as historically accurate as an episode of Hogan's Heroes. Don't get me wrong, it is a great movie, but it is a complete distortion of what really happened.

Zeus-cat

Luftwaffe_109
09-04-2005, 06:57 PM
- Das Boot
- Der Undertang
- Memphis Bell
- Stalingrad
- Deep Blue World

agarofa
09-04-2005, 07:28 PM
There are also some excellent documentaries such as "The World at War" which after nearly 30 years I still consider to be the definitive TV history of WW2 and it is as captivating as any movie.

huggy87
09-04-2005, 08:39 PM
You sure ressurected this thread from the graveyard.

Anyone seen "Saints and Soldiers"? It was an indie movie just released on video. Very highly regarded. I thought it was pretty good, if cliched and predictable. The ambience and authenticity was outstanding. Takes place just after the malmedy massacre in belgium.

JastaV
09-05-2005, 03:48 PM
THE BIG RED ONE:
the history of the "First U.S.Army Infantry Division" in WWII....a great movie about the true essence of war.

TIME to LIVE, TIME to DIE:
....inspired to T. Mann novel...as simple as great.

LA GRANDE GUERRA:
Absolutely one of the best Italian movie of all times.

EL ALAMAIN: LA LINEA DEL FUOCO:
The North African experiences of an Italian Infantry Platoon...Indeed a good movie with impressive combat imagines.


ALEXANDER NEVSKIJ by S. EIZENSHTEIN:
This 30s years Russian movie is the "Mother" of all historical movie....Medieval Battle imagines are great....absolutely a must!!!

MEDITERRANEO:
a nice Italian movie about the no-war of a small
Italian Soldier Party.

APOCALYPSE NOW:
another piece of movie history.

IVAN's CHILDWOOD:
A great WWII Russian movie.

neural_dream
09-05-2005, 04:15 PM
1 das boot http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
(2 la vita e bella) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif
3 enemy at the gates http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
4 private ryan http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Das Boot in particular is one of my 3-4 favorite movies in general. Enemy at the gates was very good too. Until private ryan most war movies were not really very good; they were mainly alt history self-vindications with above average cast.

Low_Flyer_MkII
09-05-2005, 04:25 PM
Three from me for now (not all WWII, I admit):-

The original "All Quiet On The Western Front", someone described this film as the most powerful cinematic statement on World War One made by the generation that fought it.

"Coming Home", a war film with no battle scenes.

And for George C. Scott's performance, "Patton".

sithgod
09-06-2005, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by Oilburner_TAW:
Battle of Britain is a great movie for good quality color shots of spits, 111's, etc..

Its getting released in November I think A pecial edition. I think it has some extras and is going to be in 5.1 surround. Spitfires in digital surround sound.

Skycat_2
09-06-2005, 09:27 PM
Looking through the previous five pages, I didn't see "To Hell and Back (1955)" starring Audie Murphy as himself.
"True-life account of the military career of Audie Murphy, the most decorated soldier in WWII. Native of Texas, he was placed in charge of his many younger siblings on the death of his mother and decided to join the military at the age of 17 to provide for them. His many acts of bravery and heroism during the US military advance through Italy, France and into Germany earn him increasing rank and responsability as well as the respect of his comrades in arms. Eventually he receives two dozen of the highest medals the US and France can bestow, culiminating in the awarding of the Congressional Medal of Honor."

Another movie based on an actual wartime personality is "The Story of G.I. Joe (1945)." Legendary war correspondant Ernie Pyle served as technical advisor to this film that was based on his columns; in the story, Pyle (Burgess Meredith) periodically returns to the infantry unit he initially shipped out to North Africa with. Sadly, the real Pyle was killed in action before the film premiered. Here's the synopsis from WalMart.com:
[i]"... Few films have so honestly portrayed the harrowing existence of the infantry soldier in World War II - an unsentimental, often brutal, but always human story of the mud, blood and death that surround the infantryman in combat. Mitchum's performance made him a star and earned him an Oscar nomination as Best Supporting Actor. Critics and film historians agree - this is simply one of the best films ever made about World War II."

AirborneCoyote
09-07-2005, 12:19 AM
30 Seconds Over Tokyo (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037366/)