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Flydutch
12-06-2004, 05:50 PM
I know the Person responsible for the Gorgeous 'Shiden'AI Model in this sim is quit A expert on this A/C.
Is he or sombody else working on the Cockpit?

It is my favorite oponent in PF but I would like to fly It even more( I Did fly the NK1-2 Shiden-KAI A lot in CFS2)

Will the Original Float plane 'Kyofu'( Where the Shiden derives from )and the supererior Shiden-KAI be modeled?

The Kyofu is twice the Fighter if compared with the Rufe.
And the Shiden-KAI will be A Online Toroughbred Favorite I'm certain, for many Aces!

Penguin_PFF
12-06-2004, 06:31 PM
1. Of course it will. It's being worked on, but there are some open division of labor/QA/priority/managment issues at the moment so no ETA can be given, other than "more than weeks, less than months" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif .

2. There's generally crummy reference for the Kyofu, and really good to great reference for the Shiden-Kai. Both need External and Cockpit models to be made for both aircraft and this takes time. The Kyofu, realistically, is near the bottom of the priority list. Only about 90 were made. In seaplanes, I think the F1M Pete was much more important. Flyable Shiden, Shiden-Kai, and Raiden far outweigh the Kyofu's priority.

3. I really hope so. I hope to have my hand in this somewhere.

Waldo.Pepper
12-06-2004, 06:57 PM
Yippee I can hijack this one!

So is anyone working on the Pete then?

Speaking of floatplanes, I sure wish that they slowed down more quickly when you touched down. Their run out seems to last forever!

Gunner_361st
12-06-2004, 07:43 PM
The Shinden and Raiden certainly would make nice additions for the late war fighter matches, even though historically they did not represent a majority of what Japan fielded against the Allies.

I bet they are more relevant than a MiG-3U, an I-185, or a BF-109-Z though. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Bring 'em on! They make for good, interesting opponents as AI, and I think the Japanese-flying players would certainly be pleased to have fighters that can actually take a beating. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

LEXX_Luthor
12-06-2004, 08:45 PM
Gunner:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I bet they are more relevant than a MiG-3U, an I-185, or a BF-109-Z. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Flyable Fantasy Do~335 in progress gets no complaints on this webboard--it may be diabolical flight simmer appeal for pilot headrest padded with human hair. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif There is a fascinating flight simmer cult-like aurae around Do~335, not that there is anything wrong with that. And Do~335 as the only globally accepted Fantasy plane makes an equally interesting psycho study of flight simmer webboard behavioral patterns.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

VW-IceFire
12-06-2004, 08:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LEXX_Luthor:
Gunner:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I bet they are more relevant than a MiG-3U, an I-185, or a BF-109-Z. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Flyable Fantasy Do~335 in progress gets no complaints on this webboard--it may be diabolical flight simmer appeal for pilot headrest padded with human hair. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif There is a fascinating flight simmer cult-like aurae around Do~335, _not that there is anything wrong with that._ And Do~335 as the only globally accepted Fantasy plane makes an equally interesting psycho study of flight simmer webboard behavioral patterns.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
If Closterman chased one in a Tempest V then I'm game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I look forward to the Do-335. But moreso to the George. I look forward to having that one flyable too!

LEXX_Luthor
12-06-2004, 08:53 PM
MiG~3U chased high altitude Ju~86 recce over Moscow, didn't catch it, but got close enough that Ju~86 never again flew over Moscow. I guess the specially modded Spits made them scared of anything that could get close to them.

~> http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/mig3/I-230.html

Akira_251_IJN
12-06-2004, 09:00 PM
Thats if there ever allowed to fly on servers. Seems like alot of US squads don't like it when they don't have the best toy in the toy box. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

CdnSpits
12-06-2004, 09:04 PM
The George!!!! Give me a freakin flyable torpedo plane that actually fought in the battle of the Coral Sea, Midway, or Pearl Harbor. We have enough stinkin fighters already!!!.....rant!!!!!!!!

Penguin_PFF
12-06-2004, 09:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gunner_361st:
The Shinden and Raiden certainly would make nice additions for the late war fighter matches, even though historically they did not represent a majority of what Japan fielded against the Allies. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Uh, yes, you could say that... 500-ish Raiden, 500+ Shiden-Kai, 1000+ Shiden (maybe closer to 1,500 because I think there are some mistakes in English language sources)... After the A6M series these were the most important and influential day fighter IJN types in the last stages of the war.

The Shinden was a bizarre what-if plane. Nowhere near worth the effort at this point, not with many key types unflyable. Like the Shiden. First things are first.

Fritzofn
12-06-2004, 11:08 PM
oh, so the 335 was only a fantsy plane??? thought it had a good record???

like the 262 with the 50mm canon, that actualy downed B17 on test flights...

Anyways, more jap. planes is a welcome addition.
the Hayabusa could need some competition :P

Flydutch
12-07-2004, 03:41 AM
Great news Penguin!
Yes A Flyable Shiden and then the Shiden -Kai would be the proper order.
I have patience...

In the Mean time I keep fliyng against the George untill I can Fly it myself. (This way practicing of what to do to escape Allied fighters in the future)
Do you have any ideas of what best tactics to use in the Shiden or Shiden-Kai?

BTW.
I think some people are lost here!
This is the Pacific where talking about not "Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe!"
If you want a Torp bomber so bad build one!

Flydutch
12-07-2004, 03:52 AM
BTW the 12 Cannon armed I-16's where modeled in IL-2 (And boy did you encounter those '12'A lot in missions!)
And what A bout the single built B1 Russian rocket fighter, Featured, that never even became operational?

Penguin, That quote you used is talking about the Shinden not the Shiden, Isn't it?

RocketDog
12-07-2004, 04:43 AM
The George is a great looking aircraft and I am very much looking forward to flying it.

Is the cockpit being done by the same modeller as the existing Ki series? These are some of the best cockpits in the game and it would be a real pleaseure to have a George done in the same style.

Regards,

RocketDog.

Saburo_0
12-07-2004, 07:02 AM
Really looking forward to the George & the Raiden or Jack. Have always liked these. The missing IJA single engine aircraft is the Shoki or Tojo. Great climb rate & some versions were heavily armed. Personally I'd have voted for it over the Tony, but as the only inline engined Japanese fighter of the war I can see why they did the Ki-61.
As for the B-1 & SWOTL aircraft, I think the boys at 1C like to do aircraft that are interresting from a design & engineering point of view. Notice the comments on the Tony in Object Viewer, where it says Imagine what this airframe matched with a Daimler 605 could have done....

VVS-Manuc
12-07-2004, 07:36 AM
Do 335 a fantasy plane? There were more Do335 build than I-185, MIG 3U, YP-80 and Bi-1 together ! Reconaissance missions were flown 1944/45 with Do 335. Is someone afraid that the axis will get planes which a re equal or slight better than a p-51 of a F4U ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

WOLFMondo
12-07-2004, 07:55 AM
The Do335 will walk all over a P51 or F4U. The Do335 is more Tempest territory.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DuxCorvan
12-07-2004, 08:01 AM
Great to hear, Penguin. I hope you solved your differences with S. about Shidens, and have made an agreement.

It would be a great add to PF.

As for Do 335, it saw limited operational use in EBK 335, an experimental front-line unit, although reports about posible encounters or engagements are scarce and confusing.

It was by no means a 'fantasy' plane, but the best double-engined heavy fighter of the war. It had no time to show it, tho. But I'd like to have it in game. If not too historically accurate, an interesting concept to fly around and test in combat. Contrarily to other projects like I-185, Go 229 or the 'paper' Bf 109Z, there was a lot of testing with Do 335 and He 162 before and after the war, and it's possible to make accurate FMs for both planes. He 162 is in, yet, and I don't understand why it is so despised: although marginal -due to lack of jet fuel- it saw operational service in numbers before VE-day.