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Enforcer572005
10-23-2005, 07:19 PM
Ah, greetings again comrades. I am of course, you old freind Major Ivanovov Enforcerski of the VVS (retired). I'm reporting to you on the status of VVS fighters Pt2, which is slowly, but steadily coming along. I am hoping for release somewhere in December, but as Oleg says, it will be ready when it is ready.

im having to work on this continued simulation of my illustrious war career in between 2 part time jobs and running a photography business, so be patient. If you liked VVS Fighters Pt 1, then i believe you will like the second part. It of course, is the continuation of the rewrite of the original VVS fighters cmpn from the original il2 released 4 yrs ago. As you can ask most anyone who has flown this simulation of the service of the illustrious 120th IAP, you wont be able to recognize it.

I HAD TO EDIT THIS PART TO GO TO THE NEXT MISN REPORT. Im not yelling, just had to fix my overloading the thing with screenies. On to the next part.SCROLL DOWN THE PAGE TO THE SCREENIES.

Enforcer572005
10-23-2005, 08:39 PM
In VVS Fighters Pt.2, you will fly over the Kuban, Kursk, and then to the Crimea as the Germans are driven from thier beachhead in the North. You will fly variants of the Kobra in the Kuban, then take command of 3rd Squadron as they turn in thier Hurricanes for La-5s over the massive armored engagement at Kursk. When you head back north to the Crimea, you will fly later model Kobras. This cmpn is based on history as far as the events and the type of fighting, but there will be a bit of Hollywoodization for playability and entertainment. You WILL have an education in these events once you have flown this simulation comrades. Now, back to work. THis is very tedious. Thank you for attending this meeting. You are dismissed if you want.

Hydra444
10-23-2005, 09:10 PM
Kick *** man http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Can't wait

FlatSpinMan
10-24-2005, 07:29 AM
Comrade FlatSpinovich reporting for duty, Comrade Major!!! (I love all this hokey propaganda stuff http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)Still a bit tied up in Spain attempting to halt the march of Facism but should be free, say mid Novemberish, to take on the Fascist foe in the east this time.
Keep the updates rolling in.
Fascism never sleeps!!!
Facism must be crushed!!!
Fascism is decidedly unpleasant!!!



By the way, have you tried sharpening the screenshots once you have saved them? I use "irfan" (free downloadable program) to do it and it gives a nice look. That's the only tweaking I do. I run on 4x aa and perfect landscape too, which helps the clarity of the images.

Enforcer572005
10-24-2005, 09:00 PM
thanks comrade, and im really interested in that utility you mentioned. I should have upped the resolution level, but i would have had a slide show. where can i get this thing your excellent socialist wisdom has come upon? Lots of stuff i NEED to do.

Is kinda fun to assume the role of these guys. Thier politics was goofy,thier top leadership totally nuts, but the average Soviet soldier/pilot/etc sure had heart.

I started another part time job today, and its kinda tuff, but Im determined to have this thing done sometime in December.

From the number of dnloads ive seen for part one, it appears that there is limited interest in the eastern front. I intend however, to finish all three parts of the original 70 misn rewrite for the guys that are interested. I think many are just not familiar wiht the vast, rich scope of historical content and action that occured in the east. It was where 70% of the german army was held down i believe, and i know that 70% of thier casualties were suffered there. It was the biggest war in history on a scale unheard of before or since, and the west was certainly no small party; makes it hard to fathom this relatively unknown war. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

oh, and i intend on flying the SCW cmpn eventually, but i need to get dsl first so i can actually dnload it, and then get the time to fly it. Most of my time is on my own project and trying to finish up a few others i dnloaded that are great. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

FlatSpinMan
10-25-2005, 12:41 AM
I just googled irfanview and followed it from there. it just lets you do simple editing like cropping, sharpening, blurring, monochrome, etc. It also is good for coverting a file from tga to jpeg.
To get nice clear shots without onscreen writing etc just save the track, turn off "display messages" or whatever and then play it back. Then you can get the perfect angles by pushing pause. that's how I've been taking mine. You could also raise the pic quality when you play back the track. It'll still be slow but as you're just watchingit wouldn't matter.
Don't be discouraged by the number of downlaods (hard not to be I guess). I thought it was a really fun campaign and I could see the effort that went into it. I think the Eastern front is more interesting than the Eastern and especially the Pacific. Maybe I've seen too many images from those theatres, seems a bit vanilla. I prefer the less well known planes,too (ie, not the Spit and Mustang though I do want to learn how to fly them well).

Once Gaston is satisfied with his camapaign I'll see if I can help you get it, maybe break the file up into skins, missions, that kind of thing.
Cheers.

-HH-Dubbo
10-25-2005, 01:45 AM
Stikmanski http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Looking forward to it mate.

hugohugo37
10-25-2005, 10:13 AM
I'm surprised to hear that you think there is little interest in VVS part 1. I loved it. There really aren't THAT many campaigns out there so I'm surprised more people haven't downloaded it just to try something new as I did. If you haven't flown VVS planes too much this really is a great intro. I really like the cannon equipped I-16. Early war planes tend to lack power AND firepower which is frustrating but with the I-16 you know that if you can line up a shot you'll probably do some damage. (You can make up for lack of power by gaining an altitude/energy advantage but if you have little peashooter .30 cals you're stuck.) If I remember correctly, after the I-16 came the MIG-3 which I really didn't like but it was fun to try to get used to.
Anyway, I should have expressed my gratitude earlier for VVS part I. I realise the time these campaigns take and the least we "consumers" can do is say thanks. Needless to say I'll fly VVS part II as soon as it comes out. But hopefully I'll have Gaston's SCW campaign to fly first. I'm really looking forward to that one too- more I-16 action. My girlfriend is Spanish and I've spent a lot of time there including going to the Museo del Aire at the Cuatro Vientos airfield. The have lots of cool stuff there. Did you know the Spanish Saeta was a jet designed by Willy Messerschmidt after the war? I guess he found enough time between making sewing machines to design another plane or two. Uh oh I've drifted off topic. Anyway, Enforcer and Gaston, keep up the good work!

Kuna15
10-25-2005, 10:40 AM
Good to see you working on pt2 Enforcer. I'm looking forward to it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

jasonbirder
10-25-2005, 04:10 PM
Too fast...too fast!
LIke the Grolsch advert says....try taking things slowly...
There are just too many great campaigns I want to fly
I've still not finished off VVS1 and heres VVS2 on its way...
Don't you realise you're going to be putting my marriage in some kind of jeopardy!
Seriously though can't wait to see it and thanks for a monster campaign!

Achilles_NZ
10-25-2005, 04:45 PM
Looking very cool so far mate, again a nice job! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
I too much prefer the Eastern front to the Pacific, although Id trade vital parts of my anatomy to have the Med included properly as well. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Enforcer572005
10-26-2005, 12:20 AM
Thanks for the replies comrades...i had begun to wonder if some of you had been abducted by imperialist alliens.

FSM-yes, i just discovered that traks make the best screenies. next time ill up the res, reduce it to one-half speed, and maybe even turn on clouds and people......just depends. the later ones above were done on traks.

HH Dubbo...I was going to leave him the way it was and just call him "invisible maninov" As soon as i get a couple more done ill send you and Achilles NZ a sneak look for evaluation and recomendation, if you have time.And im gonna send you that photo i worked on very quickly.

Hugo 37-Im glad you liked pt1 so far and appreciate that you appreciated it. Im really not bugged by the lower dnloads number compared to many ohters, since it is kinda natural for westerners to dig thier own countries machines etc. ive just seen some discusion on here reference dis-interest in many VVS planes and the eastern front itself.

the planes you flew after the I-16 were three versions of the LA-3. The mig was in the original, but i tried to keep it more faithful to the actual events as i could by using the Lagg.

Jasonbirder- dont worry, youll probably be avoiding midairs wiht that capitolist Santa Clause and his decadent reindeer by the time it is finished. And besides, marriage is just a temporary solution to a permenant problem-she'll get over it.

Achilles NZ....yes, id love the med to. Id like the pacific better if it had a few more chunks of map to use-like at guadalcanal.

Enforcer572005
11-06-2005, 09:42 AM
Hello again comrades, welcome to another briefing on the forthcoming VVS pt2.....the Major is absent today, something to do with a little drinking binge he engaged in with some current VVS SU-27 pilots. He also mentioned something about gagging on a big worm in some Mexican vodka?

Anyway, I am the Major's wingman, Capt. Yuri Dropdedinov, VVS retired. Pardon my appearance, as i had an incident in a burning Kobra later in the Kuban cmpn. I will guide you through the following misn In March of 43, where we both earned another order of Lennin for foiling a large attack on shipping at the Myskhako beachead.

THis involved covering the re-supply op as it departed the beach after offloading it cargo for our intrepid defenders of the only pocket of resistance in the enemy's rear....actually it was a giant boil on their Aryan ***.

Our boys had been dug in for a month, under constant artillery and air attack, as well as never ending pushes by the Panzers that they handily repulsed. We weren't going to allow our Alamo to fall. We called it "the little land".
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/kuban3blittelandfortifications.jpg

The 120th was assigned to fly CAP at 2000m, with several flights from all 3 squadrons covering different directions. I spotted what appeared to be an entire gruppen of Heinkels on a torpedo run against the fleeing ships, so the major ordered an attack and immiediately called for assistance from control, which would pay off later.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/kuban3bhetorpsinboundmanuvering.jpg

We were right over the water, trying
to thwart thier targeting solutions as
well as shoot them down. My target
changed course immiediately, and we got
three of them on the first pass. As we
reqrouped, i assumed my position covering
the Major, as well I did.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/kuban3bp4001shootinghebehindsplashe.jpg

On our next pass, our flight became
distracted by thier deperate efforts
save our retreating supply ships. Here,
our #3 is concentrating on his prey,
and does not see the escort of Fokkers
as they fall upon us. Here one of the
FWs guns him from behind. Poor Comrade
Tupelaev never knew what hit him.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/kuban3b3get****frombehindinvertedfw.jpg

Enforcer572005
11-06-2005, 10:08 AM
oops, sorry about that. Ill try it again. The FWs were very effective, and took us completely by surprise and we lost #3.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/kuban3bp400invertedhitfrombehind.jpg

This same facsist ace that got our #3 then spotted the major, but he did'nt spot me covering him....this was his undoing.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/kuban3bFWidontseesneakinginfrombehi.jpg

Here I surprise the attacking Focker from beneath, a short burst ending his attack on Comrade Major.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/kuban3byurigunningFWidontsee.jpg

My 20mm has made quick work of the German ace, and the major never even knew it....he was able to concentrate on the bombers since he had me there. This shows that this simulation has been greatly improved by the latest patch...of course, since it comes from my homeland! I took the inititive to attack without the major having to order me to. I think that is, how do you say,.....cool?
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/kuban3bFWyurigunnedburningbehindme.jpg

As if we weren't busy enough, we saw geysers of bombs exploding near the only destroyer that was providing cover, madly manuvering to avoid being hit. That could only mean one thing......
STUKAS!

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/kuban3bstukadropingbombsoverDD.jpg

Among the Stukas was a schwarm of old HS-123s, which attacked from lower altitude and had just pulled out from thier drops. The Major ordered me to attack them while he went after the Stukas as they pulled out, so i dove after the archaic looking biplanes.....but do not underestimate them or thier pilots.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/kuban3bp400abovedd2gysershs123sbelo.jpg

Watching my back for fighters,
I fell upon the leader, blasing
him to bits with the last of my
20mm shells. His comrades swarmed
around me like angry hornets, and
my hands were full; I was unable
to go assist the Major.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/kuban3bcr42wingyblastedaboveinpiece.jpg

There was no help to be had
because the sky was full of
planes trying to kill each
other....a really big, as you
say, furball? A whole staffel
of 109s showed up, but the
newly arrived Hurricanes of 3rd
squadron pounced upon them a
little to the North over enemy
held Novorossisk.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/kuban3bhurriwingover109closebkgdpch.jpg

Meanwhile, as I hassled with
the Henschels, The major went
after the repidly escaping
Stukas alone. He quickly gunned
the wingman of the trailing
element, coming up from below
in the standard attack on such
planes.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/kuban3bshootingonestukaotherrolling.jpg

He went after the leader,
thinking he could easily come
up underneath him, like fish
in a barrel, but the German
would have none of it, banking
steeply to allow his gunner a
clear shot, back and forth,
thwarting the major's best
efforts.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/kuban3bfromckpitstukarollingevading.jpg

The major suffered several hits
to the gunner, his plane losing
oil pressure, overheating, and
running out of gas...it was a
long way back to out base. He
finally got a good burst in with
his four 30 calibre guns, as it
was the only ammo he had left. The
Stuka spriralled toward the rocky
beach, but my commander was shocked
to see this pilot use his energy and
go verticle on him!
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/kuban3bstukagoingverticlecomingup.jpg

The major nearly flew into
the beach as he watched in
disbelief while the Stuka
hung on its prop, nearly
stationary. We never saw
a Stuka do that before!
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/kuban3bstukagoingverticle.jpg

He finally managed to empty the last
of his 30 cal into the Junkers,
and the last he saw it was staggering
away to the north trailing heavy black
smoke, but he did not claim the kill
since he couldnt be sure. Just as well,
for the German pilot deadsticked his
machine into an auxillery field we did
not know was there. This would not be
the last time we would encounter this
intrepid German pilot.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/kuban3bstukaoverauxfielddeadstick.jpg

Our squadron commander managed to
limp his crippled fuel starved
Kobra onto a road near Gelendzhik
across the bay....the field was
unusable due to artillery fire,
so he hitched a ride with a band
of gypsies. Once i lost the band
of hornets in those Henschels, i
joined the fight over the beach,
scored my last kill of the misn,
but he bailed too low.http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/kuban3b109pilotbailingoverlittlelan.jpg

So end all fascist enemies of the people.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/kuban3bdeadpilotonbeachshipt34.jpg

We are finished with this report comrades....before you leave, you
may consider buying an autographed
photo of my commander,
Major Enforcerski, for a mere ten
bucks. But don't tell him I sold
these to you, as I want to surprise
him. Well, back to work. Ill have the
photos on a table by the door. We
take Visa and Mastercard, but no
checks...they are a symbol of
capitalist decadence. Thank you
comrades for your attention.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b63/Enforcer572005/Bochkov.jpg

FlatSpinMan
11-07-2005, 11:18 AM
Wow. Big variety of planes whizzing around in this one! That'll be good fun. The screenies look a bit flasher,too. That last pic and the caption are really quite grim, aren't they?
Keep up the good work,m8, it is appreciated..

-HH-Dubbo
11-07-2005, 12:24 PM
Good stuff http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Saunders1953
11-07-2005, 03:37 PM
That Stuka hanging on its prop...is that a new AI FM with the last patch? I don't recall ever seeing a plane do that either in this sim.

FlatSpinMan
11-07-2005, 07:50 PM
Hey Saunders, you operational again yet?

Enforcer572005
11-07-2005, 09:47 PM
I made the misn under the latest patch, so i have never seen this before either, but i havent seen any fighters do it either. Did you notice the wingman AI improvement with old Yuri (on ace skill) bouncing my attacker without me even knowing it. I didnt realize it until i played the trak back looking for screenies. there was at least one other occaision when he scared off a 109F from my tail, again, while i was trying to kill someone else.

The STuka really freaked me.....i was laughing my keyster off everytime this guy would turn the tables on me. I also discovered on review that he blasted two hurricanes out of the air, and he only had veteran skill. I came up under his wingman as they egressed and blasted him, but the leader started the above routine. All i had was 30 cal ammo, but once i hit him hard he started that spiral. He was actually gathering energy for this verticle manuver. He was nearly still when i passed him.

this ai is pretty impressive at times, even if they still cant keep from crashing, especially over water, and dont know how to make torpedo runs. those He111s still managed to sink a frieghter.

Dont i look dashing in front of my Kobra? Actually, that is an ace named Borchov (i think). amazing that they had aces flying the worse version of a plane american and british pilots really hated.

Flatspinman....yeah, i thought it added a little dramatic flair, along wiht my scurilous wingy trying to make a few bucks. Once i saw it, i had to use it. Really amazing what you can see in traks and wiht cameras. I had so many good ones i had to edit it severly.The destroyer shots from shore were amazing, as that one DD survived so many near hits, torpedos, and one bomb hit. Im using alot highter res for the screenies to. thanks for the advice.

Did the D5 version of the Ju-87 have 20mm or 15mm? those are longass barrels, and they tore those two hurris apart handily. I cant find much info on that version, though i have seen pics.

HotelBushranger
11-08-2005, 02:53 AM
20 mm mate http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

jakeand
11-08-2005, 12:18 PM
Thx Enforcer http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Just ended mission 15 in Part1, looking forward to Part2

regards

Jake

Enforcer572005
11-08-2005, 10:23 PM
thanks comrade. I think im gonna expand it quite a bit over the origial 22 or so misns in the 3 mini cmpns in this part of the original il2 fighter cmpn. The Kuban just cant be covered properly in 8 misns, any more than the battle of britain could be. THis fight was on at least as great a scale as BoB.

Im trying to base the misns as closely to what went on as i can, but i have to take alot of liberties, like the above illustrated misn. These kinds of attacks went on all the time, but the specific incident is just an interpretation of the kind of combat they were engaged in over the Kuban.

Is slow going because of other commitments and the labor intensive nature of doing this to my standards. Im determined to have it done before Christmas.....hopefully.

FlatSpinMan
11-09-2005, 08:56 AM
Don't rush it Enforcer. just do it when you can. We'll still be waiting to play it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif.

jasonbirder
11-09-2005, 09:25 AM
Yeah..take your time dude http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif All good things come to those that wait eh!

Or should I say

Comradski the production of VVS part 2 is part of our glorious 5 year plan - our collective of campaign designers will let the Nazi pigs and their capitalist running dog lackeys race to produce their inferior campaigns but in time our glorious campaigns will be completed by the blood and sweat of the proletariat and we will arise and throw the hated invaders from the sacred soils of mother Russia!

Either way I can't wait!

mandrill7
11-15-2005, 08:35 PM
Greetings, Comrade Enforsovitch!

I downloaded Part I last week and have already been killed. But then, I was stupid to take the Major's briefing seriously... the one about ignoring the 109's and just dealing with the bombers. Err, didn't work that well.

I'd be glad to help out with mission testing and design. I enjoy the Eastern Front and was thinking about designing my own missions using the Gulf of Finland map and covering some of the island and naval fights there.

Fraternally,
Maldshiy Leytenant Mandrillski.

dazza9806482
11-16-2005, 04:06 AM
Just started playing Part 1

absolutely brilliant. reminds me of my first days being wowed by IL2

Thanks mate!

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