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VBF-83_Hawk
02-25-2005, 10:28 AM
http://www.geocities.com/avg_83essex/F-14s_over_Iwo_Jima.jpg

Chuck_Older
02-25-2005, 10:36 AM
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JG53Frankyboy
02-25-2005, 10:38 AM
its green there http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

VW-IceFire
02-25-2005, 10:46 AM
Iwo Jima http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Nice picture. Yeah, it looks green and not grey.

Waldo.Pepper
02-25-2005, 11:00 AM
I can't make out the text on the monument.

Can anyone tell me what it in fact says? (I mean I can guess but I don't want to, I'd like to read it.)

lbhskier37
02-25-2005, 11:05 AM
I suggest reading Flags of Our Fathers. Good book about the flag raisers and really well done descriptions of the fight for the island.

Capt._Tenneal
02-25-2005, 11:21 AM
Don't worry, I know what he meant. Iwa Jima, the island with the dormant volcano Mt. Sarabachi, right ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Chuck_Older
02-25-2005, 12:42 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifIwo Jima

Actually, two 'mountains', but Suribachi is the prominent one

The island underwent no less than 70 days of constant aerial bombing prior to the landings...why do folks who play PF feel that Iwo should be green in the campaigns??? Iwo Jima means 'Sulfur Island'...the sands are black

It wasn't a lush tropical paradise. USAAF pilots described it as a "burnt pork chop" before the Marines landed

Not being a know-it-all, just pointing a few things out for general interest

heywooood
02-25-2005, 06:08 PM
all of the accounts I have seen from Marines there said the dust underfoot was not like sand...it was much finer and it was knee deep.
Extremely hard to traverse...very gray sulfer powder and pulverized volcanic rock.

steve_v
02-25-2005, 06:41 PM
Still get choked up. Not just here, but where men made the ultimate sacrifice. Defies explanation.

Aztek_Eagle
02-25-2005, 08:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
Iwo Jima http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Nice picture. Yeah, it looks green and not grey. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

put a million preparation shells into it and u will see it turn grey... the same wiht all the islands, during the fighting in most island the vegetation and animal living there banish

LEXX_Luthor
02-25-2005, 09:13 PM
Yes, that Green colour would be an early casualty of pre~invasion bombardment. Wonder how
long it took for the Green to come back after the battle. The PF Brown Iwo, along with Chichi
Jima, are some of my fave maps, just bizzare, alien worlds. The maps do look like Evil places
when you fly over them, I guess that is how they looked back then too.

Just got through reading Saburo again....he served on Iwo during the naval and air assualt on Iwo in July 1944.

He/Caiden says USA could have walked onto the island summer 1944, with minimum casualties,
when they first gained air and sea control around it and totally destroyed it as a base. It
was for the most part undefended compared to later -- 1945. But we waited until Iwo was
reinforced by 17,000 or so fresh troops, heavily armed, and deeply dug into the rock. Dunno,
first I ever heard about this.

jarink
02-25-2005, 09:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LEXX_Luthor:
Just got through reading Saburo again....he served on Iwo during the naval and air assualt on Iwo in July 1944.

He/Caiden says USA could have walked onto the island summer 1944, with minimum casualties,
when they first gained air and sea control around it and totally destroyed it as a base. It
was for the most part undefended compared to later -- 1945. But we waited until Iwo was
reinforced by 17,000 or so fresh troops, heavily armed, and deeply dug into the rock. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I just finished his book for the first time. He also mentioned how there was virtually no fresh water available on Iwo, too.

As for walking onto islands, the same could have happend in many places. Oahu, Tarawa (Betio), etc. Of course there are plenty of places we did walk onto, too. Guadalcanal (initial landings) is a good example.

There is a "Flags of Our Fathers" movie coming out soon, too. Directed by Clint Eastwood and produced by Steven Speilberg, so it'll probably be pretty good.

LEXX_Luthor
02-25-2005, 09:39 PM
jarink:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>As for walking onto islands, the same could have happend in many places. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ya...but I was thinking we had already been to Iwo to totally smash it up with overwhelming
naval forces. But Saburo/Caiden say the Japanese thought losing Iwo in summber 1944 would have
ended the war more quickly. Why is not stated, but maybe its putting land based tactical
fighters and bombers within range of Japan half a year earlier than what happened, as well as
earlier opportunity to provide escorts for B~29s. Not sure, but its first I heard of this...mmm

Arms1
02-26-2005, 01:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by steve_v:
Still get choked up. Not just here, but where men made the ultimate sacrifice. Defies explanation. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i absolutely agree, there are too many to list