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Worf101
12-25-2006, 09:13 AM
I know this means little to many of you out there, you're too young or live in lands too distant to know the impact of this man. But this loss hits me hard, on Christmas day no less. Don't be fooled by the parodies on "Saturday Night Live" or "Mad T.V." or a million other shows. This man was a pure genius. "Versuvius in Kansas" one critic called him.

You may mistake him for a 50's crooner on songs like "Try Me" or "Prisoner of Love", or 60's soul shouter on "Pappa's Gotta Brand New Bag" and "I Feel Good", but that's just the tip of the iceberg. The complex, deep rhythms and crafted with Fred Wesley, Maceo Parker, Pee Wee Ellis and the rest of the J.B.'s were the foundation of modern Rap, R&B and the birthplace of Funk. He's been sampled by more "artists" than any other entity.

You've heard his music without knowing it, hummed his songs without remarking on it and danceed to his rhythms without remembering it. You may dismiss his sound as "primitive" or "raw" but to do so only shows your ignorance. If you've know musical talent at all just listen and try to under the rhythmic intricacies on a tune like "Cold Sweat" or "Give It Up, Turn it Loose". Many's a Berkley grad that laughs at it but can't play it.

Like many people, you sometimes don't miss the water till the well runs dry. I'm glad I saw James with the whole band at Proctors Theatre in Schenectady, NY about 3 years ago when he turned 70. The best song of the night funny enough, wasn't even one of his. As an encore he did a rousing rendition of "Soul Man", the classic Sam and Dave cut made popular by the Blues Brothers.

The balcony of the old place was bouncing up and down in time to the music... as he and Bobby Bird danced in time. We all danced, Red, Yellow, Black, White and Brown, on an elemental level, in the roots of our beings. That's what I'll remember most, how he made us all "forget our troubles and dance....

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msalama
12-25-2006, 09:15 AM
The hardest working man in the show business, the godfather of funk, has passed. May he rest in peace http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Pollack2006
12-25-2006, 09:17 AM
Poor bugger.

He probably woke up complaining "I feeeel bad" but the nurses thought he was being ironic....

h009291
12-25-2006, 09:24 AM
Well .... hardly a "goodytwo shoes" by any means, hopefully he has a spot reserved above.

Well known for drug abuse and the criminal element, he did tread on the other side of the line many times.

A legend none the less.

Worf101
12-25-2006, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by h009291:
Well .... hardly a "goodytwo shoes" by any means, hopefully he has a spot reserved above.

Well known for drug abuse and the criminal element, he did tread on the other side of the line many times.

A legend none the less. Elvis, Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis, John Lennon.. all did time but your point is noted.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RCAF_Irish_403
12-25-2006, 09:47 AM
The music world just lost major heavy hitter from the 20th century.

Many people don't realize that JB did it all: Not only was he a firebrand performer, but he also wrote and arranged most of his own stuff (a rariety for a performer whose roots lie in the 1950's)

The JB's were a serious proving ground for talent. Maceo Parker, Bootsy and Catfish , ....geez, how about the entire original JB lineup from 1969 alone. Unreal.

Live at the Apollo belongs in any serious music lovers library. It's flat out inciendiary.

About ten years ago i was in a group that covered "Ain't it Funky Now" and "Superbad". Whenever we needed to jumpstart a set or light a fire under the audiences @ss those songs were there. I defy you to listen to this music and not dance.

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Bearcat99
12-25-2006, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by h009291:
Well .... hardly a "goodytwo shoes" by any means, hopefully he has a spot reserved above.

Well known for drug abuse and the criminal element, he did tread on the other side of the line many times.

A legend none the less.

I was waiting for that one..... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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UberDemon
12-25-2006, 11:58 AM
He's in heaven going:

"I feels good!!!!!!"

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12-25-2006, 12:01 PM
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Capt.England
12-25-2006, 01:21 PM
A real sad day in Music.

Like most fans of my age, I got into J.B. due to the use of his records in late 80's house music. It's just a shame that I will never see him live in concert.

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BrotherVoodoo
12-25-2006, 03:02 PM
This legend inspired many a musician, including myself. Rock on James, RIP.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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GR142-Pipper
12-25-2006, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by Worf101:
I know this means little to many of you out there, you're too young or live in lands too distant to know the impact of this man. But this loss hits me hard, on Christmas day no less. Don't be fooled by the parodies on "Saturday Night Live" or "Mad T.V." or a million other shows. This man was a pure genius. "Versuvius in Kansas" one critic called him.

You may mistake him for a 50's crooner on songs like "Try Me" or "Prisoner of Love", or 60's soul shouter on "Pappa's Gotta Brand New Bag" and "I Feel Good", but that's just the tip of the iceberg. The complex, deep rhythms and crafted with Fred Wesley, Maceo Parker, Pee Wee Ellis and the rest of the J.B.'s were the foundation of modern Rap, R&B and the birthplace of Funk. He's been sampled by more "artists" than any other entity. I saw James Brown at the Oakland Coliseum in 1972. Great show. The man was a performer to the end and always gracious to the audience.

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Cadet_Bobo
12-25-2006, 03:13 PM
My first band out of High School was a JB cover band. Back then we played jams like "Pass the Peas like they used to say", Get on the goodfoot" and other monster groove tunes. I miss playing the music and I'll miss J.B immensly.

GreyFox5
12-25-2006, 03:37 PM
He lived and played hard!

He will be missed by a great many.

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Copperhead310th
12-25-2006, 03:54 PM
Waaaaaaaaaow! uh! Gimme da funk!

So long Jamse.
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DuxCorvan
12-25-2006, 04:09 PM
A man who wrote a song about a "sex machine" sure has a place in heaven. Specially considering all the song is like a prophecy about myself. Awful haircut, though.

Long live James Brown, the guy will rock forever. Number one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

SeaFireLIV
12-25-2006, 04:20 PM
I wasn`t a major fan, but I felt sad to hear of it. But somehow, passing away on christmas day at a ripe old age doesn`t seem so bad.

Treetop64
12-25-2006, 06:14 PM
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flakwagen
12-25-2006, 06:27 PM
The level of proficiency he demanded from his musicians will be legendary. I think being in his band was the musical equivalent of squarebashing. I saw him rehearse a little bit on a television do***entary- he constantly stopped everyone to correct a single player for being off by just a hair. He wanted absolute perfection- and he got it.

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Bearcat99
12-26-2006, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by h009291:
Well .... hardly a "goodytwo shoes" by any means, hopefully he has a spot reserved above.

Well known for drug abuse and the criminal element, he did tread on the other side of the line many times.

A legend none the less.

Oh and BTW.... JB did not tolerate drug use in his band. He was vehemently opposed to it. So he was not well known for drug abuse..... or "the criminal element"....<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Yambretta
12-26-2006, 02:34 AM
Just so it's clear in my head we are about James Brown as in ???I Feel Good???? James Brown as in ???Papa???s Got a Brand New Bag???? James Brown as in high-speed car chases, threatening pedestrians with a firearm, four wife-beating arrests and a prison rap for pcp? That James Brown?

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Morteiin
12-26-2006, 02:36 AM
I can remember during my youth some years ago now, on one of the alternative radio stations here in Australia, they played a whole live album of his from the fifties or early sixties. I just started listening to it, not really interested, but was quickly mesmerized, by the man himself, the band, the audience. It was amazing. He sounded so genuinely appreciative of his fans too. Yeah, so, thanks for the music, it must have reached more people than you could possibly know.

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12-26-2006, 04:04 AM
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RCAF_Irish_403
12-26-2006, 04:28 AM
Originally posted by Yambretta:
Just so it's clear in my head we are about James Brown as in ???I Feel Good???? James Brown as in ???Papa???s Got a Brand New Bag???? James Brown as in high-speed car chases, threatening pedestrians with a firearm, four wife-beating arrests and a prison rap for pcp? That James Brown?

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I never understood the public's need for these guys to be phenomenal musicians/authors/actors/artists and to be saints in their personal lives

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Blutarski2004
12-26-2006, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by Yambretta:
Just so it's clear in my head we are about James Brown as in ???I Feel Good???? James Brown as in ???Papa???s Got a Brand New Bag???? James Brown as in high-speed car chases, threatening pedestrians with a firearm, four wife-beating arrests and a prison rap for pcp? That James Brown?

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..... Maybe THIS James Brown is the one who deserves to be remembered. When MLK was assassinated in 1968, James Brown was in Boston to do a show at the Boston Garden. The mayor was terrified that MLK's death would provoke street riots, as were taking place all over the country. Mr Brown offered to have his entire concert (something like four hours worth) broadcast live on TV for free in order to help defuse the situation, which it did. Boston suffered no riot.

Or maybe THIS James Brown - one of the great unsung personalities of the civil rights movement in America. Listen to the lyrics of his music sometime. He probably influenced more people in this respect than Jessie "pay me off" Jackson ever dreamed of reaching.

It's easy to pick over a person's life and highlight the lowlights. It's easy to do, and any person is vulnerable to such unkind ministrations. But don't mistake that for being any sort of real portrait of an individual's life.

We should all be so lucky as to lead a life of such meaning, achievement, and inspiration.

I, for one, will sorely miss JB.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

BLUTARSKI

KIMURA
12-26-2006, 07:39 AM
RIP Mister Soul-music http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Worf101
12-26-2006, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by Blutarski2004:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Yambretta:
Just so it's clear in my head we are about James Brown as in ???I Feel Good???? James Brown as in ???Papa???s Got a Brand New Bag???? James Brown as in high-speed car chases, threatening pedestrians with a firearm, four wife-beating arrests and a prison rap for pcp? That James Brown?

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..... Maybe THIS James Brown is the one who deserves to be remembered. When MLK was assassinated in 1968, James Brown was in Boston to do a show at the Boston Garden. The mayor was terrified that MLK's death would provoke street riots, as were taking place all over the country. Mr Brown offered to have his entire concert (something like four hours worth) broadcast live on TV for free in order to help defuse the situation, which it did. Boston suffered no riot.

Or maybe THIS James Brown - one of the great unsung personalities of the civil rights movement in America. Listen to the lyrics of his music sometime. He probably influenced more people in this respect than Jessie "pay me off" Jackson ever dreamed of reaching.

It's easy to pick over a person's life and highlight the lowlights. It's easy to do, and any person is vulnerable to such unkind ministrations. But don't mistake that for being any sort of real portrait of an individual's life.

We should all be so lucky as to lead a life of such meaning, achievement, and inspiration.

I, for one, will sorely miss JB. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Good on ya Sen. Blutarski... Couldn't have said it any better myself.

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Capt.England
12-26-2006, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by Yambretta:
Just so it's clear in my head we are about James Brown as in ???I Feel Good???? James Brown as in ???Papa???s Got a Brand New Bag???? James Brown as in high-speed car chases, threatening pedestrians with a firearm, four wife-beating arrests and a prison rap for pcp? That James Brown?

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Go and listen to Take That you sad troll. One day when you grow up, please come back and tell us what real music is! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Heavy_Weather
12-26-2006, 08:41 AM
THE JB'S THE JB's THE JB's!!!



damn Im going to miss him and that funky band of his.

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woofiedog
12-26-2006, 08:43 AM
One of my favorite singer's from the 60's. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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12-27-2006, 04:26 AM
Capt.England
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quote:
Originally posted by Yambretta:
Just so it's clear in my head we are about James Brown as in ???I Feel Good???? James Brown as in ???Papa???s Got a Brand New Bag???? James Brown as in high-speed car chases, threatening pedestrians with a firearm, four wife-beating arrests and a prison rap for pcp? That James Brown?




Go and listen to Take That you sad troll. One day when you grow up, please come back and tell us what real music is!

Hey turd I suggest you reread my post before jumping on the flaming bandwagen.
Nowhere did I take the achivements for his music away.
What I did say is that this guy did things above and beyond what is considered decent behavour.
Next you will be telling me myra hindley was a good old gal and the yorkshire ripper was misunderstood.
Anyways like I said nothing against the guys music (I have a couple albums :P) just fcks me off when people hero worship this type of person.

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SeaFireLIV
12-27-2006, 04:46 AM
Stop it, Yambretta. I just get the feeling you`re trying to make all black blokes look like they must always have something bad to them if they actually do anything good. Pick the log out of your own eye before taking the spec out of theirs.... or `Only he who is completely free of sin can throw the first stone."<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Yambretta
12-27-2006, 07:49 AM
why thank you spitfire for calling me a racist on a public forum without knowing me,my race,creed or nation I can only assume your gift of esp is truly a wonderful thing. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif as I can't see anything in my posts that led you to that wonderful piece of detective work.

My stance is easy to work out I can't stand putting on a pedestal somebody who's life was not a good role model.
It's one thing saying rip James you made great music (something i agree with)
It's another saying rip James what a great guy you were your life stands as a role model to all kids.

Anyway flame me as much as you like I,m done with this.

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12-27-2006, 08:46 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif God bless James Brown!!!!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Copperhead310th
12-28-2006, 08:46 PM
TONIGHT ON C.O.P.S......

When good threads go bad.....


IBTL

And lets drop all the racial cr@p right now.
That will get me fired up faster than anything.
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Worf101
12-29-2006, 08:33 AM
Do you know the difference between "putting someone on a pedestal" and regretting their loss? It may be a fine line of difference but that's what I was doing. Sure James wasn't perfect, but you show me any true genius from Howard Hughes to Prince who was/is. The list of Rock n' Roll legends who've done drugs and done time would stretch from here to timbuktu. I worship no man, but that doesn't mean I can't celebrate someones accomplishments, feet of clay and all.

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WWMaxGunz
12-29-2006, 09:03 AM
All have sinned and fallen short, it's just the self-righteous that think they are better.
If you could put yourself in his shoes, would you handle it all better or just hide away?

I've only seen him on TV and film but man was he demanding. All the band tight and *right*
on not just the note but don't be half a sixteenth off! Like Cab Calloway only on overtime.

Best performances I saw were on the BB movies that IMO were Blues showcases threaded with
loose storylines.

Well...... The KING (of Soul) is Dead! Long Live the King!
Think maybe he's already joined up with the Motown crowd already in place?
Got himself a mansion near Marvins' and a hanger full of big classic cars?

Hope he's got family to collect on the big rush of material gonna be sold and shown.

BSS_AIJO
12-29-2006, 09:24 AM
Yes,

This week has been a week of remembering mortality for me. Jerry Ford dies , James Brown is Dead. I find out the reason I have not seen a freind of mine out in a really long time is because she is dead. It just plain wierd. I have a copy of the BMW video with James Brown and Gary Oldman. The video goes a long way to prove the guy had a sence of humor and could look in the mirror and have a big laugh. It brought me a new level of respect for the guy. I am not really a big fan of his music, but I can see the quality and genuis not of only the music but the pure professionalism of his showmanship. He has effected generations of new musicians from all generas, and lived to see it happen.

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